Hi have a question about ram and the quotaty of it for your computer
after doing some research for my big boy to oc I found out that
OCZ DDR 2x 512 kit EL gold VX or any other fast rating 1 GHz kit
would run faster and better then a 2 GHz kit or even 4 GHz
So my question is if you are going to over clock your computer for gaming or general purposes then when would the 2 GHz and 4 GHz really come out on top and be the correct choice to buy
Would future gaming with HD graphic cards and super fast chips really require the 2 to 4 slots of 1 GHz Chips?

http://www.anandtech.com/memory/sh [...] =2560&p=13

I will be oc my comp
OCZ EB DDR PC-4000 2 x 1024 GB or OCZ 3200 Platinum R2 2 x 512GB
AMD Opteron 180
Asus ATI A8R-MVP
x1800xt x 2
Just quious which would be better
Cheers gazza

Some people use PC as workstation and run various RAM-hungry apps.
I've got 2GB. Thinking of going for 2 more.

Unless you play BF2 and/or WoW then you'll need 2GB.
Otherwise 2x512MB is more than enough.

By going with 2x1GB you decrease your overclocking potential substancially unless you get those uber expensive Crucial Ballistix 1GB DDR500 that can do 300Mhz.

Just to let you know, Memory/RAM sizes isn't measured in Ghz, it's measuer in Gigabytes or GBs.

Ram speed however is measured is timings and Mhz.

Get 2GB of RAM, have them for at least a couple of weeks and see if you REALLY need 2GB more or not.

If want you to build ur PC as Server go ahead for 4GB. Applications run smoother at 4GB and will improve multi tasking. but 2GB is a great deal for now. Go for 2GB if ur not planning to run heavy applications at the same time. then upgrade later...


are you goin to play heavy games at the same time?

oops gpt a little punch drunk with all my reading and playing
thanks

well im curently running 1.3 thunderbird and i wanted to upgrade but this time to bild a big boy and fiddle with some oc my first time
this is a home computer conected to a 3 computer network on cable I am hevely into HL2 DoD Fear Quake Unreal Tourney all gameing on and off the net with a side hobby of movie making big ham
the main reason I picked the opteron 180 was i read that they are a much superior chip then the x2 and fx and that it was better for over clocking becouse it ran cooler I then thought that in a coupple of years i would then underclock it back to 2.4gz and let it do its retirement easy
but i was uncertain about the ram i will only be ocing on air I have a Lian Li 1200 + and i have ordered my opteron 1800 and antec 550 pc and SI-120 cpu cooler my next purchace wa going to be by ram mobo and graphics card wich are Asur A8R-MVP to run the crossfire system but now i will have to get the X1900xtx
so you think the 2gb would do me

Maybe try 2GB first, but if you think your PC need more memory, upgrade it 4GB. Games Like BF2, Doom3, Half-Life, Far Cry will run smooth with 2GB ( but it still depends on your Video Card) in other applications 2GB memory will be enough. But as I said go with 2GB first. Then upgrade it to 4GB If you need more ram.. 8)

Thanks heeps I will get the 2 gb of ram

i kinda disagree with the others. unless you are runnin a server or work station, i say 1 GB ram is enough.
i once experimented with BF2 with different ram amount. the only difference i found between 1gb and 2gb ram was that 2gb reduces the loadin time by hardly 8 sec. and during gameplay there were only a few frames more.
if dont wanna lose those 'precious' 8 sec and 4-5 fps or ur into professional work, only then get 2gb. other wise 1 gb is enough.

i personally am a semi pro video editor and have no problem with my 1 gb ram. just make sure ur arn't bottle-necked by other components.

I would have to agree, 1 gig is more then enough for now.

Thanks heeps fellas
Gazza

If you give me some of that 4ghz memory, you can shave my head, wax my legs, and use me for a surfboard.

I wish everyone can say that. I've seen Quake 4 take up 900MB on my system thank god I have 2.5GB. Since I do a lot in the background if I only had 1GB I would get killed. Otherwise yeah, 1GB is more than enough for the average user.

In my experiences using CAD gaming and video editing, 2gig DDR is just about right.

WinXP is swapping even if there is an available RAM.

Well, if you run 2GB in WinXPSP2 then you can simply turn off disk swapping altogether.

Generally, if you use WinXPSP2, then it is better to get 2GB and switch off swapping.

If you plan to use WinXP x86-64 edition, then get 4GB and switch off swapping.

Ever tried to run HL2, BF2 or FEAR with task manager opened on your second screen?
You'd be surprised how much memory these games use up once you start "experimenting" with the game options.

I run HL2 with ALL details maxed out + 4xAA + 16xAF at 1280x1024
Ontop of that I have a 460MB hi-res texture pack added to HL2.
On some big levels (Like Ravenholm) I have seen the game go over 1.3GB memory usage.

BF2 and FEAR are in thesame range when you turn on every option there is available.
I've seen FEAR go up to 1.5GB once.
Add your OS and background apps to that and even 2GB is starting to look cramped.

(I do admit I was down to 15FPS in some FEAR levels.)

BTW: I'm also running the OCZ EB DDR PC-4000 2 x 1024 GB kit
Insane memory for an insane price...

[EDIT]And I registered at this forum just to come tell you guys this.
Quake 4 - 900MB? In default settings maybe, try turning it up.

Once again thanks fellas for your imput I do have another computer to upgrade but it wont be until the end of the year and its just for gameing for the family so it wount be as expensive and isnt a pet project
So haveing said that i was thinking of takeing the advice and getting the
( 2 x 512mb ) ocz el ddr pc-3200 platinum r2
based on the oc article on ram so that i can get the fastest oc with my cross fire system for gameing then try the
( 2 x 1gb ) 0cz eb ddr pc-4000 platinum ed
when I do the second upgrade at the end of the year and swop ram
This is hitting my hip pocet in a major way this year I guess I wont be visitting friends In Ohio this year
but hey im pleasing the one and not the masses
Cheers
Gazza ( I come from the land down under ) oi oi oi

Some program like Photoshop doesn't function properly without a swapfile.
The way to keep swapfile under control while using RAM to the maximum is to disable executive paging while setting swapfile to 300MB(or less) static.