Anything out on the market such as the 7800GTX make PC gaming close or better then the xbox 360?

ya mean like the X1800XT-PE?  

I don't think that card is that impressive.  Is that card better then the 360? i didn't even check out specs on it.

Well the X1800XL version is available, the higher clocked XT-PE not so...
But the XL is just as fast as the 7800GTX and both can be o/c'd further, but the X1800XL is about $110 cheaper to get in hand, that translates to me about 25% cheaper cash for the same bang!
Special is something you will have to decide for yourself tho  

Who here has seen the 360 and how does it look?  How good a TV do you need?

Madden football is incredible, the game looks real, from the trash talking to the sweat beading up on the face.
 I want one, Santa, for my kids.  

Plus they are good for roasting marshmellows.

Might explain the sweat beading up on face a bit then...  

I have the 360.  Thank god mines not misfunctioning.
 
I have a beautiful Panasonic HDTV 30" widescreen 1080i, 720p etc.
 
Basically it looks good.  I mean honestly.  it's really my brothers.
 
I just downloaded call of duty 2 demo for pc, and keep in mind i have a oc'd leadtek gf4 ti4200  and call of duty looked incredible and RAN incredible on my system with everything on hi.   It looked EXTREMELY close to 360.
 
I can't wait to upgrade my vid card just to see the improvement i get.
 
I am a HUGE madden fan and honestly the 06 for 360 was a disappointment.
 
yea the graphics are great .. big deal.  The game play isn't what i expected.  YOU CAN"T EVEN CHALLENGE PLAYS.. (online you never could)
 
they took away mini camp, create a player.  it's bad and also it's 10$ more then your regular xbox 06.
 
they deff rushed the game out.
 
however the graphics are nice and the Offensive Interface is really nice, i like that change alot.

Hmmm.....so it's basically dx8 quality?
 
I wonder how something like FEAR would look.

A 4200ti is utter crap compared to any of the new cards even in the mid range.

? i agree it's an old card.
 
But the game looks and runs great on this system very close 360.  I have both i think i should know.
 
the lighting is a bit off and not nearly as crisp.  
 
But for this card it runs the game rather well.

That answers your question then.
 
The picture quality of the newest games is much much better than anything the 4200 can render. So if you think the 4200 has close to 360 graphics any new mid-to-high range card will have better graphics.
 
I must add that current 360 games do not do the system justice, and later games will look as good as, if not better, than games on the top cards today.

He is abosolutely correct, just look at madden '00 for PS2 and then '06, same hardware much better graphics. Developers just need more time to toy with the hardware and push it harder.

yea it has to be correct ... cause in that theory im using the same card or 3 yrs and the games still run great on my system.
 
 
I mean obviously they could look at alot better.  But this xmas i will be getting the 6600GT.
 
now on PAPER the 6600GT destroy's the ti4200.  Now i will run the same games with the new card and see what has improved.
 
I'll deffinetly post back.

Not to mention that the 6600GT is a DX9 card as opposed to your 4200ti (which only supports DX8 right?)
 
Besides, I know what's throwing you off here; the size and resolution of your HDTV must give the illusion of less detailed graphics than your current display. That's pretty common phenomenon I think.
 
Anyway, console-games are most certainly always optimized to run on specific hardware, which means that a PC game can not really be compared to a xbox-360 game right now for the moment.

Umm ... just about any mid to high end card in a PC will be better.
 
Think about it, widescreen HDTV has like a resolution of 1280 x 720.  (At least that's what my research brings up.)  If you set your resolution that low on a PC, there's a crap load of video cards that could do that.  Heck, a high end SLI setup on a PC could do that with extreme AA and quality and make the 360 look like a chump.
 
Consoles don't really have all that great of a graphics engine anymore, simply because they just don't have to.  They're TV limited.  The modern gaming PC has long surpassed consoles in that respect.

it all depends on the what your hdtv can do.  there is 780i, 780p, 1080i, and whatever else.  i vs p means interlaced vs projected.  projected gives off more vibrant colors.  but, 1080 is a better resolution, offering something like 1900x1080, or something of the like.  but yea, if your hdtv is only capable of 780's, then you get 1280x768, or whatever that one is.  Kinda of funny, people that argue console are better say they are cheaper.  but to really enjoy next gen consoles, you might have to spend 400+at least 3000 for a decent hi-def that exploits a next gen consoles full potential.  screw that.  i'd rather waste my money on a kick ass computer.

So TV dependent they are, yes, hmmm....

Even if your HDTV is cable of 1080i, aren't the games just 720p and upscaled to 1080i?  I haven't looked into it but the interlaced/expanded res just doesn't sound that impressive.
 
I played COD2 on an 360 before it was released (BestBuy demo station).  It looked very good but I'd like to see it side by side with a high end PC.  I'd suspect COD2 can look better on a high end PC, but still impressive what the XBOX360 can do as COD2 is rough on a video card.