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Does the Startup folder not work in PPC 2003?

I put a Pocket Excel file (not a shortcut, that didn't work either) in
it and nothing happens. There is no help for Startup.

TIA

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"normc" <normc@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Does the Startup folder not work in PPC 2003?
>
> I put a Pocket Excel file (not a shortcut, that didn't work either) in it
> and nothing happens. There is no help for Startup.
>
> TIA
>

Hi,

You will need to perform a soft reset to open the applications (short-cut)
or files that are placed in the startup folder. Merely turning the PPC
on/off doesn't result in a startup.

--
Regards,
Raj

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"normc" <normc@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Does the Startup folder not work in PPC 2003?
>
> I put a Pocket Excel file (not a shortcut, that didn't work either) in
> it and nothing happens. There is no help for Startup.
>
> TIA
>

2 things- try a soft reset, and if you've tried that try creating a shortcut
in startup to a blank document rather than the program itself. Don't forget
to Save As if you do it this second way or you will just open the modified
document on future restarts (soft resets).

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"normc" <normc@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Does the Startup folder not work in PPC 2003?
>
> I put a Pocket Excel file (not a shortcut, that didn't work either) in
> it and nothing happens. There is no help for Startup.
>
> TIA
>

No, it doesn't work this way...

But, you can put a shortcut to it in the Programs
list, where it'll be only two taps away...

I have my customer lists, my mileage record,
etc. set up this way and have cut most of the shorcuts
to other programs I rarely use out of the Programs
menu to make it lean 'n mean.

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AlanS wrote:

> "normc" <normc@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:qyZVc.4913$rP2.1426@hydra.nntpserver.com...
>
>>Does the Startup folder not work in PPC 2003?
>>
>>I put a Pocket Excel file (not a shortcut, that didn't work either) in
>>it and nothing happens. There is no help for Startup.
>>
>>TIA
>>
>
>
> 2 things- try a soft reset, and if you've tried that

Thanks, I had already tried that.


> try creating a shortcut
> in startup to a blank document rather than the program itself.

As I said in the OP, I put a shortcut to an Excel document in Startup,
not the program, itself. The file contains a list that I look at as
soon as I power up in the morning.

> Don't forget
> to Save As if you do it this second way or you will just open the modified
> document on future restarts (soft resets).

Are you saying that powering up is not considered Startup... that soft
reset is?

>
>

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V Green wrote:

> "normc" <normc@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:qyZVc.4913$rP2.1426@hydra.nntpserver.com...
>
>>Does the Startup folder not work in PPC 2003?
>>
>>I put a Pocket Excel file (not a shortcut, that didn't work either) in
>>it and nothing happens. There is no help for Startup.
>>
>>TIA
>>
>
>
> No, it doesn't work this way...

Do you, or anyone else, know how it DOES work?

>
> But, you can put a shortcut to it in the Programs
> list, where it'll be only two taps away...

Even better (for me), I put shortcuts to all my pertinent Excel files in
the Start Menu.

>
> I have my customer lists, my mileage record,
> etc. set up this way and have cut most of the shorcuts
> to other programs I rarely use out of the Programs
> menu to make it lean 'n mean.

Speaking of 'lean and mean', I went through the entire system with File
Explorer and found shortcuts lying around in strange places. I had not
placed these shortcuts. Didn't even know how to determine file type
until I upgraded do Spb Pocket Plus v2.1 a couple weeks ago.

Thanks for your inputs.
>
>

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Powerup is not the same as Soft reset...

Remember... technically the Pocket PC is always on... the power switch only
puts it into suspend mode. The Soft reset though reads through the Startup
folder.

--
Carlo Ma. Guerrero
Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices


"normc" <normc@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
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AlanS wrote:

> "normc" <normc@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:qyZVc.4913$rP2.1426@hydra.nntpserver.com...
>
>>Does the Startup folder not work in PPC 2003?
>>
>>I put a Pocket Excel file (not a shortcut, that didn't work either) in
>>it and nothing happens. There is no help for Startup.
>>
>>TIA
>>
>
>
> 2 things- try a soft reset, and if you've tried that

Thanks, I had already tried that.


> try creating a shortcut
> in startup to a blank document rather than the program itself.

As I said in the OP, I put a shortcut to an Excel document in Startup,
not the program, itself. The file contains a list that I look at as
soon as I power up in the morning.

> Don't forget
> to Save As if you do it this second way or you will just open the modified
> document on future restarts (soft resets).

Are you saying that powering up is not considered Startup... that soft
reset is?

>
>

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Shortcuts can only be found in two places... The Start Menu folder and its
sub folders... and the Windows Folder where these shortcut originals are
stored.

--
Carlo Ma. Guerrero
Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices


"normc" <normc@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
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V Green wrote:

> "normc" <normc@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:qyZVc.4913$rP2.1426@hydra.nntpserver.com...
>
>>Does the Startup folder not work in PPC 2003?
>>
>>I put a Pocket Excel file (not a shortcut, that didn't work either) in
>>it and nothing happens. There is no help for Startup.
>>
>>TIA
>>
>
>
> No, it doesn't work this way...

Do you, or anyone else, know how it DOES work?

>
> But, you can put a shortcut to it in the Programs
> list, where it'll be only two taps away...

Even better (for me), I put shortcuts to all my pertinent Excel files in
the Start Menu.

>
> I have my customer lists, my mileage record,
> etc. set up this way and have cut most of the shorcuts
> to other programs I rarely use out of the Programs
> menu to make it lean 'n mean.

Speaking of 'lean and mean', I went through the entire system with File
Explorer and found shortcuts lying around in strange places. I had not
placed these shortcuts. Didn't even know how to determine file type
until I upgraded do Spb Pocket Plus v2.1 a couple weeks ago.

Thanks for your inputs.
>
>

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?? Shortcuts can be found and placed about anywhere. They are not especially
useful most places, but they can be there.

--
Sven, MS-MVP Mobile Devices
"Carlo Ma. Guerrero [MVP]" <ppcsurfr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Shortcuts can only be found in two places... The Start Menu folder and its
> sub folders... and the Windows Folder where these shortcut originals are
> stored.
>
> --
> Carlo Ma. Guerrero
> Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices
>
>
> "normc" <normc@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:KcdWc.22083$rP2.13182@hydra.nntpserver.com...
> V Green wrote:
>
> > "normc" <normc@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:qyZVc.4913$rP2.1426@hydra.nntpserver.com...
> >
> >>Does the Startup folder not work in PPC 2003?
> >>
> >>I put a Pocket Excel file (not a shortcut, that didn't work either) in
> >>it and nothing happens. There is no help for Startup.
> >>
> >>TIA
> >>
> >
> >
> > No, it doesn't work this way...
>
> Do you, or anyone else, know how it DOES work?
>
> >
> > But, you can put a shortcut to it in the Programs
> > list, where it'll be only two taps away...
>
> Even better (for me), I put shortcuts to all my pertinent Excel files in
> the Start Menu.
>
> >
> > I have my customer lists, my mileage record,
> > etc. set up this way and have cut most of the shorcuts
> > to other programs I rarely use out of the Programs
> > menu to make it lean 'n mean.
>
> Speaking of 'lean and mean', I went through the entire system with File
> Explorer and found shortcuts lying around in strange places. I had not
> placed these shortcuts. Didn't even know how to determine file type
> until I upgraded do Spb Pocket Plus v2.1 a couple weeks ago.
>
> Thanks for your inputs.
> >
> >
>
>

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I meant... on a fresh unit...

Oh... I'd like to add... the Start Menu and its subfolders, the Windows
folder where the original shortcuts are, and the Startup folder. These are
where Shortcuts are most useful... =)

--
Carlo Ma. Guerrero
Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices


"Sven, MVP-Mobile Devices" <sejohannsen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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?? Shortcuts can be found and placed about anywhere. They are not especially
useful most places, but they can be there.

--
Sven, MS-MVP Mobile Devices
"Carlo Ma. Guerrero [MVP]" <ppcsurfr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:esXOj8LiEHA.3320@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Shortcuts can only be found in two places... The Start Menu folder and its
> sub folders... and the Windows Folder where these shortcut originals are
> stored.
>
> --
> Carlo Ma. Guerrero
> Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices
>
>
> "normc" <normc@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:KcdWc.22083$rP2.13182@hydra.nntpserver.com...
> V Green wrote:
>
> > "normc" <normc@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:qyZVc.4913$rP2.1426@hydra.nntpserver.com...
> >
> >>Does the Startup folder not work in PPC 2003?
> >>
> >>I put a Pocket Excel file (not a shortcut, that didn't work either) in
> >>it and nothing happens. There is no help for Startup.
> >>
> >>TIA
> >>
> >
> >
> > No, it doesn't work this way...
>
> Do you, or anyone else, know how it DOES work?
>
> >
> > But, you can put a shortcut to it in the Programs
> > list, where it'll be only two taps away...
>
> Even better (for me), I put shortcuts to all my pertinent Excel files in
> the Start Menu.
>
> >
> > I have my customer lists, my mileage record,
> > etc. set up this way and have cut most of the shorcuts
> > to other programs I rarely use out of the Programs
> > menu to make it lean 'n mean.
>
> Speaking of 'lean and mean', I went through the entire system with File
> Explorer and found shortcuts lying around in strange places. I had not
> placed these shortcuts. Didn't even know how to determine file type
> until I upgraded do Spb Pocket Plus v2.1 a couple weeks ago.
>
> Thanks for your inputs.
> >
> >
>
>

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Carlo Ma. Guerrero [MVP] wrote:
> Powerup is not the same as Soft reset...
>
> Remember... technically the Pocket PC is always on... the power switch only
> puts it into suspend mode. The Soft reset though reads through the Startup
> folder.
>

Got it. Thanks.

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Sven, MVP-Mobile Devices wrote:

> ?? Shortcuts can be found and placed about anywhere. They are not especially
> useful most places, but they can be there.
>

Thanks for the clarification.

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I agree with that. I find it irritating that some installs will actually
put a shortcut to the application in the PPC My Documents folder. Pocket
Streets, of all things, is one.

--
Sven, MS-MVP Mobile Devices
"Carlo Ma. Guerrero [MVP]" <ppcsurfr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I meant... on a fresh unit...
>
> Oh... I'd like to add... the Start Menu and its subfolders, the Windows
> folder where the original shortcuts are, and the Startup folder. These
are
> where Shortcuts are most useful... =)
>
> --
> Carlo Ma. Guerrero
> Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices
>
>
> "Sven, MVP-Mobile Devices" <sejohannsen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ek0vlbMiEHA.1036@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> ?? Shortcuts can be found and placed about anywhere. They are not
especially
> useful most places, but they can be there.
>
> --
> Sven, MS-MVP Mobile Devices
> "Carlo Ma. Guerrero [MVP]" <ppcsurfr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:esXOj8LiEHA.3320@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Shortcuts can only be found in two places... The Start Menu folder and
its
> > sub folders... and the Windows Folder where these shortcut originals are
> > stored.
> >
> > --
> > Carlo Ma. Guerrero
> > Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices
> >
> >
> > "normc" <normc@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:KcdWc.22083$rP2.13182@hydra.nntpserver.com...
> > V Green wrote:
> >
> > > "normc" <normc@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:qyZVc.4913$rP2.1426@hydra.nntpserver.com...
> > >
> > >>Does the Startup folder not work in PPC 2003?
> > >>
> > >>I put a Pocket Excel file (not a shortcut, that didn't work either) in
> > >>it and nothing happens. There is no help for Startup.
> > >>
> > >>TIA
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > No, it doesn't work this way...
> >
> > Do you, or anyone else, know how it DOES work?
> >
> > >
> > > But, you can put a shortcut to it in the Programs
> > > list, where it'll be only two taps away...
> >
> > Even better (for me), I put shortcuts to all my pertinent Excel files in
> > the Start Menu.
> >
> > >
> > > I have my customer lists, my mileage record,
> > > etc. set up this way and have cut most of the shorcuts
> > > to other programs I rarely use out of the Programs
> > > menu to make it lean 'n mean.
> >
> > Speaking of 'lean and mean', I went through the entire system with File
> > Explorer and found shortcuts lying around in strange places. I had not
> > placed these shortcuts. Didn't even know how to determine file type
> > until I upgraded do Spb Pocket Plus v2.1 a couple weeks ago.
> >
> > Thanks for your inputs.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>

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"Carlo Ma. Guerrero [MVP]" <ppcsurfr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:esXOj8LiEHA.3320@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Shortcuts can only be found in two places... The Start Menu folder and its
> sub folders... and the Windows Folder where these shortcut originals are
> stored.

Yeah, that's a mistake on my part-as the OP has already
noted, we're talking about the Start menu...

>
> --
> Carlo Ma. Guerrero
> Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices
>
>
> "normc" <normc@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:KcdWc.22083$rP2.13182@hydra.nntpserver.com...
> V Green wrote:
>
> > "normc" <normc@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:qyZVc.4913$rP2.1426@hydra.nntpserver.com...
> >
> >>Does the Startup folder not work in PPC 2003?
> >>
> >>I put a Pocket Excel file (not a shortcut, that didn't work either) in
> >>it and nothing happens. There is no help for Startup.
> >>
> >>TIA
> >>
> >
> >
> > No, it doesn't work this way...
>
> Do you, or anyone else, know how it DOES work?
>
> >
> > But, you can put a shortcut to it in the Programs
> > list, where it'll be only two taps away...
>
> Even better (for me), I put shortcuts to all my pertinent Excel files in
> the Start Menu.
>
> >
> > I have my customer lists, my mileage record,
> > etc. set up this way and have cut most of the shorcuts
> > to other programs I rarely use out of the Programs
> > menu to make it lean 'n mean.
>
> Speaking of 'lean and mean', I went through the entire system with File
> Explorer and found shortcuts lying around in strange places. I had not
> placed these shortcuts. Didn't even know how to determine file type
> until I upgraded do Spb Pocket Plus v2.1 a couple weeks ago.
>
> Thanks for your inputs.
> >
> >
>
>

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Carlo Ma. Guerrero [MVP] wrote:

> I meant... on a fresh unit...
>
> Oh... I'd like to add... the Start Menu and its subfolders, the Windows
> folder where the original shortcuts are, and the Startup folder. These are
> where Shortcuts are most useful... =)
>

Exactly what purpose does the MY DEVICE | WINDOWS | SHORTCUT folder
serve? It contains a number of shortcuts, some in folders. I did not
put them there.

TIA

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Hmmm... I don't have that folder in any of my PPCs... what model is that
again?

--
Carlo Ma. Guerrero
Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices


"normc" <normc@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
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Carlo Ma. Guerrero [MVP] wrote:

> I meant... on a fresh unit...
>
> Oh... I'd like to add... the Start Menu and its subfolders, the Windows
> folder where the original shortcuts are, and the Startup folder. These
> are
> where Shortcuts are most useful... =)
>

Exactly what purpose does the MY DEVICE | WINDOWS | SHORTCUT folder
serve? It contains a number of shortcuts, some in folders. I did not
put them there.

TIA

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Carlo Ma. Guerrero [MVP] wrote:
> Hmmm... I don't have that folder in any of my PPCs... what model is that
> again?
>

Microsoft Pocket PC
Version 4.20.1081 (Build 13100)
Processor: Intel PXA263
Running in Dell Ax3i

I don't mean to hurt the feelings of any Microsoft people, but I've been
appalled with the totally illogical design of this OS. Is there some
secret online documentation that fully covers its hidden capabilities?

The least they could have done is covered all the features in HELP.

It is hard for me to understand how, after more than 20 years of
Microsoft operating systems, a FIND command can be so useless. Are
there any 3rd party FIND applications?

Anyone here who has considered going back to a Palm after 'discovering'
PPC 2003?

TIA

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Well the Startup folder works sort of like you would expect it to work, the
problem is in what you expect. Not that you have a problem, just that your
expectations are different from what is actually happening.

The shortcuts start when the PPC starts, as in boots up. That makes it
almost useless as most PPCs boot up very rarely. Instead, it suspends are
resumes, which is more like hibernate or standby on a workstation.

So some of the original responses suggested a soft reset, and maybe you
tried that. But of course that did not get your shortcuts to run when you
used the on/off switch did it? To do what you want to do, which I think is
start an app when the on/off switch turns on the PPC, would require an app
to register a request to run when the PPC resumes. There may be a shareware
app that does this, I don't know.

--
Bruce Eitman (eMVP)
Senior Engineer
beitman AT applieddata DOT net

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