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Confused when I see LCD TV's advertised with VGA or DVI adapters on them.
Does this mean it can function as a computer monitor or would the picture on
a LCD TV be of much less lower quality then a product labeled LCD MONITOR?

Thanks.

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Al Franz, <albert@nospam.netmation.com>, the gill-equipped, negligent
door-to-door salesman, and eater of common weeds, squeaked:

> Confused when I see LCD TV's advertised with VGA or DVI adapters on
> them. Does this mean it can function as a computer monitor or would
> the picture on a LCD TV be of much less lower quality then a product
> labeled LCD MONITOR?
> Thanks.

Sometimes it's difficult to find the specs but all the LCD TVs that I have
checked have a very low resolution if used as a PC monitor. I am used to
1600 x 1200 so even 1024 x 768 seems far too small but they were lower
still.

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An LCD TV has far fewer pixels, thus lower resolution, than an equivalent
size LCD monitor.

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"Al Franz" <albert@nospam.netmation.com> wrote in message
newsoidnW1XnPTYXU_fRVn-hg@comcast.com...
> Confused when I see LCD TV's advertised with VGA or DVI adapters on them.
> Does this mean it can function as a computer monitor or would the picture
> on a LCD TV be of much less lower quality then a product labeled LCD
> MONITOR?
>
> Thanks.
>

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>An LCD TV has far fewer pixels, thus lower resolution, than an equivalent
>size LCD monitor.

Ok

But can I ask the reverse question then?

Does a LCD monitor and PC with TV card in it make a
better "TV" than an LCD TV?

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In article <8hv5d1th839injm4dpoqjta03a83jc74ur@4ax.com>, says...
> >An LCD TV has far fewer pixels, thus lower resolution, than an equivalent
> >size LCD monitor.
>
> Ok
>
> But can I ask the reverse question then?
>
> Does a LCD monitor and PC with TV card in it make a
> better "TV" than an LCD TV?
>
Not in a million years. Even the LCD PC monitors WITH a dedicated TV
tuner in look shite.


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>Not in a million years. Even the LCD PC monitors WITH a dedicated TV
>tuner in look shite.

As compared to what?

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In article <o128d19mcf93339uid41gk6lgbjkl7ikgm@4ax.com>, says...
> >Not in a million years. Even the LCD PC monitors WITH a dedicated TV
> >tuner in look shite.
>
> As compared to what?
>
A TV or even a CRT monitor with a TV tuner card.


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>In article <o128d19mcf93339uid41gk6lgbjkl7ikgm@4ax.com>, says...
>> >Not in a million years. Even the LCD PC monitors WITH a dedicated TV
>> >tuner in look shite.
>>
>> As compared to what?
>>
>A TV or even a CRT monitor with a TV tuner card.

Not arguing with you but the LCD TVs I've seen look ok

What exactly do you see in the LCD units that isn't up
to par?

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On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:16:28 -0500, me@privacy.net wrote:


>Not arguing with you but the LCD TVs I've seen look ok
>
>What exactly do you see in the LCD units that isn't up
>to par?

Pixellation, poor tonal scale. Take it from someone with an external
Viewsonic N6 TV tuner who has hooked it up to both my 17" LCD and
upscaled it to 1280x1024 and hooked up to my 19" CRT upscaled to
1024x768, the CRT looks superior. LCD looks passable and is great with
cartoons but when it comes to contiuous tone images it is inferior. I
could live with LCD monitor for TV but I own a CRT monitor too so I
don't have to.

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In article <5qq8d1lbcme9qegojl6miv92f3k3bfugan@4ax.com>, says...
> >In article <o128d19mcf93339uid41gk6lgbjkl7ikgm@4ax.com>, says...
> >> >Not in a million years. Even the LCD PC monitors WITH a dedicated TV
> >> >tuner in look shite.
> >>
> >> As compared to what?
> >>
> >A TV or even a CRT monitor with a TV tuner card.
>
> Not arguing with you but the LCD TVs I've seen look ok
>
Yes..proper dedicated LCD TVs. These run at a far lower resolution than
a LCD monitor. TV broadcasts for NTSC for example are at 720x480. What
this means on a LCD monitor running at a native 1280x1024 is that it
has to use interpolation. This results in a massive degredation of
image quality.

Basically you realise just how low quality TV pictures are compared to
the average resolution of a PC.

> What exactly do you see in the LCD units that isn't up
> to par?
>
Noise, blurring, moire patterns for example.


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>Viewsonic N6 TV tuner

I've always wondered how well those devices work!

So how do you like yours and why did you buy such an
external tuner to make a TV out of a monitor?

Bottom line...sounds like you are a die hard CRT
monitor fan. Yes?

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>Yes..proper dedicated LCD TVs. These run at a far lower resolution than
>a LCD monitor. TV broadcasts for NTSC for example are at 720x480. What
>this means on a LCD monitor running at a native 1280x1024 is that it
>has to use interpolation. This results in a massive degredation of
>image quality.
>
>Basically you realise just how low quality TV pictures are compared to
>the average resolution of a PC.

Ahh.... I see.... I didn't know this.

I always assumed that buying one of those Hauppauge TV
tuner cards and installing it in a PC makes it into a
decent "TV".

No?

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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:54:22 -0500, me@privacy.net wrote:

>>Viewsonic N6 TV tuner
>
>I've always wondered how well those devices work!
>
>So how do you like yours and why did you buy such an
>external tuner to make a TV out of a monitor?

I bought it because I was dissapointed with an internal TV tuner I
bought, on some channels I was getting RF interference - it was a
Pinnacle brand. Internal TV tuners can be prone to RF interference and
external tuners are not. Plus with the N6 I can hook up a game console
system or other peripherals to my computer monitor if I should ever
desire to. It costs more than an internal tuner but it was worth it to
me as I don't own a TV and just use my computer monitor to watch TV.
Plus being able to upscale the resolution makes the image a little
sharper even though the TV signal is not high res.

>Bottom line...sounds like you are a die hard CRT
>monitor fan. Yes?

Yes. I have two PC's and one is hooked to an LCD but for gaming, DVD
viewing, TV viewing I much prefer the CRT. LCD's are getting better
though but the stuck at native resolution thing is a real thorn, IMO.
When I drop an LCD down to 1024x768 from 1280x1024 I can easily see
the image degradation due to interpolation.

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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 19:04:54 +0100, Conor <conor.turton@gmail.com>
wrote:

>TV broadcasts for NTSC for example are at 720x480.

NTSC is no where near that resolution. I don't know the exact figures
but I know it's not 720x480. PAL is not even that high and PAL is
broadcast at a higher res than NTSC.

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> I don't own a TV and just use my computer monitor to watch TV.

well that's what I want to do as well. I sold my TV
awhile back in effort to downsize a bit

I want to use my PCs as a "TV"

Hence the question abt using an internal TV tuner such
as the Hauppauge cards

But I assumed an LCD display would be fine for that

Matter of fact I was thinking abt buying the big Dell
24" wide screen LCD display for this purpose