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I am trying to remotely operate my main computer

I need to open Port 4899

How do you open a port with Win Me?

Thank you

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Unless you have installed a firewall Win Me won't block any port, all that
is required is to have the appropriate application listening on the port
concerned. If however you have installed a firewall, and I really hope
you have done this, then you need to configure the firewall accordingly.
Likewise if you are behind a router using NAT then you need to configure
the router to forward port 4899 to the PC running Win Me.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Miles <Miles@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> I am trying to remotely operate my main computer
>
> I need to open Port 4899
>
> How do you open a port with Win Me?
>
> Thank you

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I have my D-Link DI-524 firewall open for this port and it shows as being open

When I scan my WinMe machine via (Advance Port Scanner) it shows this port
as closed

I do not see anything else with my router other than opening the port for
traffic I can do

WinMe seems not to be able to see this opening when I try to get to the IP
address

Thank you...

"Mike M" wrote:

> Unless you have installed a firewall Win Me won't block any port, all that
> is required is to have the appropriate application listening on the port
> concerned. If however you have installed a firewall, and I really hope
> you have done this, then you need to configure the firewall accordingly.
> Likewise if you are behind a router using NAT then you need to configure
> the router to forward port 4899 to the PC running Win Me.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> Miles <Miles@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > I am trying to remotely operate my main computer
> >
> > I need to open Port 4899
> >
> > How do you open a port with Win Me?
> >
> > Thank you
>
>

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Naturally the port will be closed until you install and have running an
application that opens the port. To date you haven't mentioned what that
application might be.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Miles <Miles@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> I have my D-Link DI-524 firewall open for this port and it shows as
> being open
>
> When I scan my WinMe machine via (Advance Port Scanner) it shows this
> port as closed
>
> I do not see anything else with my router other than opening the port
> for traffic I can do
>
> WinMe seems not to be able to see this opening when I try to get to
> the IP address

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Sorry, Mike

I want to use a Remote Access program called Radmin
(http://www.radmin.com/products/features.html)

My goal is to be able to access my main pc (the "server" ) with my laptop in
my house via the wireless router

On my XP machine and router I opened the port I wanted... but on my laptop,
I get no connection to my "server", and I do not see the port I want as
being open

On my XP machine and Router opening a port was possible

Hope this clarifies things

Thanks

"Mike M" wrote:

> Naturally the port will be closed until you install and have running an
> application that opens the port. To date you haven't mentioned what that
> application might be.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> Miles <Miles@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > I have my D-Link DI-524 firewall open for this port and it shows as
> > being open
> >
> > When I scan my WinMe machine via (Advance Port Scanner) it shows this
> > port as closed
> >
> > I do not see anything else with my router other than opening the port
> > for traffic I can do
> >
> > WinMe seems not to be able to see this opening when I try to get to
> > the IP address
>
>

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Fine, so until you install the necessary application used by radmin on Win
Me nothing will happen and the port will remain closed. Ports don't just
open, they need to connect to something, in this case the radmin server
that you will have installed on Win Me and have running. If you haven't
installed a radmin server on Win Me how is running radmin on another
machine going to talk to Win Me, IOW what on Win Me is going to be
listening to and talking with radmin? Whatever that is is what will open
the necessary ports.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Miles <Miles@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Sorry, Mike
>
> I want to use a Remote Access program called Radmin
> (http://www.radmin.com/products/features.html)
>
> My goal is to be able to access my main pc (the "server" ) with my
> laptop in my house via the wireless router
>
> On my XP machine and router I opened the port I wanted... but on my
> laptop, I get no connection to my "server", and I do not see the port
> I want as being open
>
> On my XP machine and Router opening a port was possible
>
> Hope this clarifies things

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I have the "server" installed on the machine I want to use remotely

I had assumed that installing what Radmin calls "the Viewer" on my laptop
would connect to my "server"

Why would I need a "server" in two places?

Incidently, I am not hooked to Radmin...There are other programs, such as
pcAnyWhere and the like...Radmin seems to be the cheapest...It would
regardless what program I use, I still will have to resolve this issue

Thanks

"Mike M" wrote:

> Fine, so until you install the necessary application used by radmin on Win
> Me nothing will happen and the port will remain closed. Ports don't just
> open, they need to connect to something, in this case the radmin server
> that you will have installed on Win Me and have running. If you haven't
> installed a radmin server on Win Me how is running radmin on another
> machine going to talk to Win Me, IOW what on Win Me is going to be
> listening to and talking with radmin? Whatever that is is what will open
> the necessary ports.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> Miles <Miles@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > Sorry, Mike
> >
> > I want to use a Remote Access program called Radmin
> > (http://www.radmin.com/products/features.html)
> >
> > My goal is to be able to access my main pc (the "server" ) with my
> > laptop in my house via the wireless router
> >
> > On my XP machine and router I opened the port I wanted... but on my
> > laptop, I get no connection to my "server", and I do not see the port
> > I want as being open
> >
> > On my XP machine and Router opening a port was possible
> >
> > Hope this clarifies things
>
>

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But do you have the server up and running?

The machine you wish to access (Win Me?) has to have the radmin server
installed and running. Doing this will automatically open whatever ports
that radmin uses leaving you to then configure your firewall and router
appropriately. The machine doing the accessing (your laptop?) then needs
to be running the radmin viewer and once again any firewall or router
needs to be configured accordingly.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Miles <Miles@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> I have the "server" installed on the machine I want to use remotely
>
> I had assumed that installing what Radmin calls "the Viewer" on my
> laptop would connect to my "server"
>
> Why would I need a "server" in two places?
>
> Incidently, I am not hooked to Radmin...There are other programs,
> such as pcAnyWhere and the like...Radmin seems to be the
> cheapest...It would regardless what program I use, I still will have
> to resolve this issue

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I am going to install the "server" part and re-read Radmin's direction after
your help

I will let you know the results

Thanks for your patience and follow up



"Mike M" wrote:

> But do you have the server up and running?
>
> The machine you wish to access (Win Me?) has to have the radmin server
> installed and running. Doing this will automatically open whatever ports
> that radmin uses leaving you to then configure your firewall and router
> appropriately. The machine doing the accessing (your laptop?) then needs
> to be running the radmin viewer and once again any firewall or router
> needs to be configured accordingly.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> Miles <Miles@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > I have the "server" installed on the machine I want to use remotely
> >
> > I had assumed that installing what Radmin calls "the Viewer" on my
> > laptop would connect to my "server"
> >
> > Why would I need a "server" in two places?
> >
> > Incidently, I am not hooked to Radmin...There are other programs,
> > such as pcAnyWhere and the like...Radmin seems to be the
> > cheapest...It would regardless what program I use, I still will have
> > to resolve this issue
>
>

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Miles,

I look forward to reading how you get on. I've never used Radmin and am
always interested in learning about such products as there are regular
queries in these newsgroups asking for recommendations for such a product
from those who have used XP's Remote Desktop. I see Radmin offer a 30 day
free trial so may try and find the time to test it for myself.

Cheers,
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Miles <Miles@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> I am going to install the "server" part and re-read Radmin's
> direction after your help
>
> I will let you know the results
>
> Thanks for your patience and follow up

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Take a look at this summary site if you decide to test some of these Remote
Access products:

http://www.embryodoc.org/RCPC.html

I would enjoy your feedback on these products


"Mike M" wrote:

> Miles,
>
> I look forward to reading how you get on. I've never used Radmin and am
> always interested in learning about such products as there are regular
> queries in these newsgroups asking for recommendations for such a product
> from those who have used XP's Remote Desktop. I see Radmin offer a 30 day
> free trial so may try and find the time to test it for myself.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> Miles <Miles@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > I am going to install the "server" part and re-read Radmin's
> > direction after your help
> >
> > I will let you know the results
> >
> > Thanks for your patience and follow up
>
>

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On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:39:03 -0700, Miles wrote:

> I have the "server" installed on the machine I want to use remotely
>
> I had assumed that installing what Radmin calls "the Viewer" on my laptop
> would connect to my "server"
>
> Why would I need a "server" in two places?

You would not need the "server" running on the Windows ME computer. You
should have the server running on the Windows XP computer, and the "viewer"
running on the Windows ME computer while you are trying to set this up. As
Mike M is trying to tell you, ports are opened by applications. Port probes
send packets to specific ports; if no application running which listens on
a port, then that port appears to be closed.

Try the following:

With the server running on the Windows XP computer, go to a command (cmd?)
prompt and type "netstat -a"; you should see the port opened by the Radmin
server.

With the viewer running on the Windows ME computer, go to a command
(MS-DOS) prompt and type "netstat -a"; you should see the port opened by
the Radmin viewer.

If you would like a slick GUI program which shows what netstat shows, try
TCPView from Sysinternals. It runs on both Windowx XP, and on Windows ME.
The bonus, on a Windows XP computer, is that TCPView also shows processes
which own the ports:

http://www.sysinternals.com/

If you are using the Windows XP firewall, you should be able to tell it to
trust your router IP address range. I use Kerio Personal Firewall on a
couple of Windows ME computers, and KPF is set to trust every IP address
from 192.168.102.0 to 192.168.102.255. My router assigns IP addresses in
that range so I don't have to tell it anything about trust.

If you are not using a software firewall, not even the Windows XP firewall,
there should be no port issues. If you are just using the laptop on a
wireless LAN within the house, you should not have to forward ports through
the router from the Internet; that would only be necessary for accessing
the Windows XP computer from the Internet side of the router.

While we are talking wireless, if you are going to use a program like
Radmin, first be sure that the server application has a strong password.
Use ever character that Radmin allows for the password. This is to keep
passersby from trying to use their own Radmin viewer to take control of
that computer.

The wireless LAN also needs protection. If it can handle WPA, use it. If
the WPA can handle AES encryption, use it. Create a key which takes up
every last one of the 63 ASCII characters permitted by WPA. If any of your
equipment lacks WPA ability, trade up for something which can handle it. If
you are using an HSI connection to the Internet, your computers are hot
targets for worms and spammers; WEP is just not up to protecting your WLAN
from hostile takeovers.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

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Downloaded your suggestion (and thankfully, not another blooming registration
is required)

On my "server" I see it running and "listening"

The Server shows "No Connections" which I guess in plain English means it is
"listening"

On my "viewer" (my laptop running WinMe with what Radmin calls my "viewer"
) I see nothing close to a "Radmin" connection

I have no choices with my Viewer other than putting in the IP address I want
to get to and the port number which I am using 4899

My router is open to port 4899, which Radmin suggests I use

I would try other Remote Access Programs, but I fear I would run up against
this same #%$ problem

I have used the Radmin forum and done all the suggestions

For the life of me I cannot figure out why my laptop cannot "see" my "server"

Both machines are using the same router

The solution seems so easy, but I am missing it

Thank you



"N. Miller" wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:39:03 -0700, Miles wrote:
>
> > I have the "server" installed on the machine I want to use remotely
> >
> > I had assumed that installing what Radmin calls "the Viewer" on my laptop
> > would connect to my "server"
> >
> > Why would I need a "server" in two places?
>
> You would not need the "server" running on the Windows ME computer. You
> should have the server running on the Windows XP computer, and the "viewer"
> running on the Windows ME computer while you are trying to set this up. As
> Mike M is trying to tell you, ports are opened by applications. Port probes
> send packets to specific ports; if no application running which listens on
> a port, then that port appears to be closed.
>
> Try the following:
>
> With the server running on the Windows XP computer, go to a command (cmd?)
> prompt and type "netstat -a"; you should see the port opened by the Radmin
> server.
>
> With the viewer running on the Windows ME computer, go to a command
> (MS-DOS) prompt and type "netstat -a"; you should see the port opened by
> the Radmin viewer.
>
> If you would like a slick GUI program which shows what netstat shows, try
> TCPView from Sysinternals. It runs on both Windowx XP, and on Windows ME.
> The bonus, on a Windows XP computer, is that TCPView also shows processes
> which own the ports:
>
> http://www.sysinternals.com/
>
> If you are using the Windows XP firewall, you should be able to tell it to
> trust your router IP address range. I use Kerio Personal Firewall on a
> couple of Windows ME computers, and KPF is set to trust every IP address
> from 192.168.102.0 to 192.168.102.255. My router assigns IP addresses in
> that range so I don't have to tell it anything about trust.
>
> If you are not using a software firewall, not even the Windows XP firewall,
> there should be no port issues. If you are just using the laptop on a
> wireless LAN within the house, you should not have to forward ports through
> the router from the Internet; that would only be necessary for accessing
> the Windows XP computer from the Internet side of the router.
>
> While we are talking wireless, if you are going to use a program like
> Radmin, first be sure that the server application has a strong password.
> Use ever character that Radmin allows for the password. This is to keep
> passersby from trying to use their own Radmin viewer to take control of
> that computer.
>
> The wireless LAN also needs protection. If it can handle WPA, use it. If
> the WPA can handle AES encryption, use it. Create a key which takes up
> every last one of the 63 ASCII characters permitted by WPA. If any of your
> equipment lacks WPA ability, trade up for something which can handle it. If
> you are using an HSI connection to the Internet, your computers are hot
> targets for worms and spammers; WEP is just not up to protecting your WLAN
> from hostile takeovers.
>
> --
> Norman
> ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
> ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
> ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
>

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Miles,

I've just downloaded and installed Radmin v2.2 on to a Win 98SE system and
a Win Me system and successfully and without any problem taken control of
each from the other. That is with the server running on Win Me have
viewed and taken control from Win 98SE and similarly with the server
running on Win 98SE have taken control from Win Me. Both PCs were in fact
running in what are called virtual machines on this PC (which runs XP Pro)
but other than for that were for all intents and purposes two different
machines. Since both were on the LAN side of my router I didn't have to
configure the router in any way or do any port forwarding. The firewall
in use was Zone Alarm Pro and all that was necessary was to permit the
Radmin server r_server.exe to access the trusted zone (my LAN) and also to
act as a server and to allow radmin.exe to access the trusted zone.

First impression is that Radmin looks quite good.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Miles <Miles@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Take a look at this summary site if you decide to test some of these
> Remote Access products:
>
> http://www.embryodoc.org/RCPC.html
>
> I would enjoy your feedback on these products