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Hi,

I've an iPAQ1940 connected via usb to my PC. Why I can't see any
device/share on my LAN? How can I set my iPAQ to get an IP address?
vxIPConfig get a 192.168.55.101. I've a DHCP server in my LAN...

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The ActiveSync connection only supports a subset of the IP protocol. As such
not everything is supported. To do network browsing in a Windows network you
actually have to support UDP as well, which this connection does not. The IP
you are getting is because the AS process sets up a small network between
your PC and PPC. You will find your PC is 192.168.55.100 in that network. It
also sets up the PC as a router to allow the Internet Pass Through we are
all familiar with.

You will only get the full IP capability if you connect your PPC to the
network directly. Normally that would be via an ethernet CF card, WiFi to an
AP, or something like that. Not sure what options you have with a 1940.

--
Sven, MS-MVP Mobile Devices
"GPF" <GPF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A6ADF346-6ADB-46E2-AFCA-A65EB2EB8E59@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> I've an iPAQ1940 connected via usb to my PC. Why I can't see any
> device/share on my LAN? How can I set my iPAQ to get an IP address?
> vxIPConfig get a 192.168.55.101. I've a DHCP server in my LAN...

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OK... this will help me.

But now: why I can't ping my PC? I share a printer on PC but I can't use it.
I suppose my 1940 configuration is somewhat correct (I can use PIE from
1940...) as you say my PC act as a router.

Thanks!

"Sven, MVP-Mobile Devices" wrote:

> The ActiveSync connection only supports a subset of the IP protocol. As such
> not everything is supported. To do network browsing in a Windows network you
> actually have to support UDP as well, which this connection does not. The IP
> you are getting is because the AS process sets up a small network between
> your PC and PPC. You will find your PC is 192.168.55.100 in that network. It
> also sets up the PC as a router to allow the Internet Pass Through we are
> all familiar with.
>
> You will only get the full IP capability if you connect your PPC to the
> network directly. Normally that would be via an ethernet CF card, WiFi to an
> AP, or something like that. Not sure what options you have with a 1940.
>
> --
> Sven, MS-MVP Mobile Devices
> "GPF" <GPF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A6ADF346-6ADB-46E2-AFCA-A65EB2EB8E59@microsoft.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've an iPAQ1940 connected via usb to my PC. Why I can't see any
> > device/share on my LAN? How can I set my iPAQ to get an IP address?
> > vxIPConfig get a 192.168.55.101. I've a DHCP server in my LAN...
>
>
>

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Because when using ActiveSync or Bluetooth LAP the Pocket PC will not have
access to shared folders and printers due to routing. If you have a wi-fi
connection, or a Bluetooth PAN connection then the shares are visible.

--
Mauricio Freitas, Microsoft MVP Mobile Devices
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"GPF" <GPF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:92E2657B-C8AB-4CF3-9F3D-EB882C774BC5@microsoft.com...
> OK... this will help me.
>
> But now: why I can't ping my PC? I share a printer on PC but I can't use
it.
> I suppose my 1940 configuration is somewhat correct (I can use PIE from
> 1940...) as you say my PC act as a router.
>
> Thanks!
>
> "Sven, MVP-Mobile Devices" wrote:
>
> > The ActiveSync connection only supports a subset of the IP protocol. As
such
> > not everything is supported. To do network browsing in a Windows network
you
> > actually have to support UDP as well, which this connection does not.
The IP
> > you are getting is because the AS process sets up a small network
between
> > your PC and PPC. You will find your PC is 192.168.55.100 in that
network. It
> > also sets up the PC as a router to allow the Internet Pass Through we
are
> > all familiar with.
> >
> > You will only get the full IP capability if you connect your PPC to the
> > network directly. Normally that would be via an ethernet CF card, WiFi
to an
> > AP, or something like that. Not sure what options you have with a 1940.
> >
> > --
> > Sven, MS-MVP Mobile Devices
> > "GPF" <GPF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:A6ADF346-6ADB-46E2-AFCA-A65EB2EB8E59@microsoft.com...
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I've an iPAQ1940 connected via usb to my PC. Why I can't see any
> > > device/share on my LAN? How can I set my iPAQ to get an IP address?
> > > vxIPConfig get a 192.168.55.101. I've a DHCP server in my LAN...
> >
> >
> >

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Have you got a firewall switched on, on the PC, which might reject
Ping packets ?

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 00:27:03 -0700, GPF
<GPF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>OK... this will help me.
>
>But now: why I can't ping my PC? I share a printer on PC but I can't use it.
>I suppose my 1940 configuration is somewhat correct (I can use PIE from
>1940...) as you say my PC act as a router.
>
>Thanks!
>
>"Sven, MVP-Mobile Devices" wrote:
>
>> The ActiveSync connection only supports a subset of the IP protocol. As such
>> not everything is supported. To do network browsing in a Windows network you
>> actually have to support UDP as well, which this connection does not. The IP
>> you are getting is because the AS process sets up a small network between
>> your PC and PPC. You will find your PC is 192.168.55.100 in that network. It
>> also sets up the PC as a router to allow the Internet Pass Through we are
>> all familiar with.
>>
>> You will only get the full IP capability if you connect your PPC to the
>> network directly. Normally that would be via an ethernet CF card, WiFi to an
>> AP, or something like that. Not sure what options you have with a 1940.
>>
>> --
>> Sven, MS-MVP Mobile Devices
>> "GPF" <GPF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:A6ADF346-6ADB-46E2-AFCA-A65EB2EB8E59@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I've an iPAQ1940 connected via usb to my PC. Why I can't see any
>> > device/share on my LAN? How can I set my iPAQ to get an IP address?
>> > vxIPConfig get a 192.168.55.101. I've a DHCP server in my LAN...
>>
>>
>>

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Not at all. I've a printer, I share it but I can't use it.

I'd like to print directrly from 1940. If tcp/ip or sharing are not
working... bluetooth or irda?

And what if I want to use some "lan discover"? Tha same result?

Thanks by now!

"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:

> Have you got a firewall switched on, on the PC, which might reject
> Ping packets ?
>
> On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 00:27:03 -0700, GPF
> <GPF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >OK... this will help me.
> >
> >But now: why I can't ping my PC? I share a printer on PC but I can't use it.
> >I suppose my 1940 configuration is somewhat correct (I can use PIE from
> >1940...) as you say my PC act as a router.
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
> >"Sven, MVP-Mobile Devices" wrote:
> >
> >> The ActiveSync connection only supports a subset of the IP protocol. As such
> >> not everything is supported. To do network browsing in a Windows network you
> >> actually have to support UDP as well, which this connection does not. The IP
> >> you are getting is because the AS process sets up a small network between
> >> your PC and PPC. You will find your PC is 192.168.55.100 in that network. It
> >> also sets up the PC as a router to allow the Internet Pass Through we are
> >> all familiar with.
> >>
> >> You will only get the full IP capability if you connect your PPC to the
> >> network directly. Normally that would be via an ethernet CF card, WiFi to an
> >> AP, or something like that. Not sure what options you have with a 1940.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sven, MS-MVP Mobile Devices
> >> "GPF" <GPF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:A6ADF346-6ADB-46E2-AFCA-A65EB2EB8E59@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I've an iPAQ1940 connected via usb to my PC. Why I can't see any
> >> > device/share on my LAN? How can I set my iPAQ to get an IP address?
> >> > vxIPConfig get a 192.168.55.101. I've a DHCP server in my LAN...
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

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If it's mostly printer problems, take a look at the HP mobile printing
for PPC (it's free). It chews up several meg but can be mostly
installed on a memory card. It will list and connect to shared
printers to allow you to print some but not all document types. I
think word, excel and outlook mail printing is supported by default.

You'll have to buy (small cost) translators for the rest of your apps.

http://tinyurl.com/33eyz

Cheers - Neil

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 05:03:03 -0700, GPF
<GPF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Not at all. I've a printer, I share it but I can't use it.
>
>I'd like to print directrly from 1940. If tcp/ip or sharing are not
>working... bluetooth or irda?
>
>And what if I want to use some "lan discover"? Tha same result?
>
>Thanks by now!
>
>"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
>
>> Have you got a firewall switched on, on the PC, which might reject
>> Ping packets ?
>>
>> On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 00:27:03 -0700, GPF
>> <GPF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> >OK... this will help me.
>> >
>> >But now: why I can't ping my PC? I share a printer on PC but I can't use it.
>> >I suppose my 1940 configuration is somewhat correct (I can use PIE from
>> >1940...) as you say my PC act as a router.
>> >
>> >Thanks!
>> >
>> >"Sven, MVP-Mobile Devices" wrote:
>> >
>> >> The ActiveSync connection only supports a subset of the IP protocol. As such
>> >> not everything is supported. To do network browsing in a Windows network you
>> >> actually have to support UDP as well, which this connection does not. The IP
>> >> you are getting is because the AS process sets up a small network between
>> >> your PC and PPC. You will find your PC is 192.168.55.100 in that network. It
>> >> also sets up the PC as a router to allow the Internet Pass Through we are
>> >> all familiar with.
>> >>
>> >> You will only get the full IP capability if you connect your PPC to the
>> >> network directly. Normally that would be via an ethernet CF card, WiFi to an
>> >> AP, or something like that. Not sure what options you have with a 1940.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Sven, MS-MVP Mobile Devices
>> >> "GPF" <GPF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:A6ADF346-6ADB-46E2-AFCA-A65EB2EB8E59@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > I've an iPAQ1940 connected via usb to my PC. Why I can't see any
>> >> > device/share on my LAN? How can I set my iPAQ to get an IP address?
>> >> > vxIPConfig get a 192.168.55.101. I've a DHCP server in my LAN...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

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None of that works from the cradle because of what I mentioned earlier. The
IP suite is very limited. You should have better luck with BT setting up a
PAN connection, but it is dependent on the PAN implementation, PC and PPC.
IR to the PC is just another ActiveSync connection, and a BT ActiveSync
connection is....just another ActiveSync connection. To ensure you get all
the IP type stuff you want you will need to connect into the network via
WiFi, a cabled ethernet (which is possible with some PPCs that have CF or
PCcard slots), or a BT AP. You can make it work doing an AdHoc connection
via WiFi to a desktop that has an internet connection, but that is not
trivial. It just involves setting up ICS on the desktop, but getting the
adhoc connection and the ICS right can be dodgy.

Wifi to an access point you can most certainly ping your desktop. You won't
be able to ping your PPC however. I don't believe it responds to that SNMP
request, just as it has no real capability to share files or folders. You
won't see your PPC from your PC in network neighborhood, and you can't get
to it's files that way. If you think about it, the only way you get to
attach to your PC is you right click a folder on the PC and share it. Right
click, or tap and hold, a folder on the PPC. You don't see a share option,
do you?

Printing from the PPC isn't a native thing anyway. You need some third party
solution. Whichever you pick, it should provide information on how to
actually use it. Normally the BT option requires a BT capable printer, just
as the IR option requires an IR equipped printer. IP options require the
PPC itself to be on the network, i.e. it has an IP address on the network,
like 192.168.1.200, not that ActiveSync squirrelly subnet IP. The HP one
works fine for me and it's free. It is a bit limited in printer selection
compared to some of the commercial ones, but I have the printers it
supports.

--
Sven, MS-MVP Mobile Devices
"GPF" <GPF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5CEE0872-B73F-4D8E-915B-A6045953A254@microsoft.com...
> Not at all. I've a printer, I share it but I can't use it.
>
> I'd like to print directrly from 1940. If tcp/ip or sharing are not
> working... bluetooth or irda?
>
> And what if I want to use some "lan discover"? Tha same result?
>
> Thanks by now!
>
> "Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
>
> > Have you got a firewall switched on, on the PC, which might reject
> > Ping packets ?
> >
> > On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 00:27:03 -0700, GPF
> > <GPF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > >OK... this will help me.
> > >
> > >But now: why I can't ping my PC? I share a printer on PC but I can't
use it.
> > >I suppose my 1940 configuration is somewhat correct (I can use PIE from
> > >1940...) as you say my PC act as a router.
> > >
> > >Thanks!
> > >
> > >"Sven, MVP-Mobile Devices" wrote:
> > >
> > >> The ActiveSync connection only supports a subset of the IP protocol.
As such
> > >> not everything is supported. To do network browsing in a Windows
network you
> > >> actually have to support UDP as well, which this connection does not.
The IP
> > >> you are getting is because the AS process sets up a small network
between
> > >> your PC and PPC. You will find your PC is 192.168.55.100 in that
network. It
> > >> also sets up the PC as a router to allow the Internet Pass Through we
are
> > >> all familiar with.
> > >>
> > >> You will only get the full IP capability if you connect your PPC to
the
> > >> network directly. Normally that would be via an ethernet CF card,
WiFi to an
> > >> AP, or something like that. Not sure what options you have with a
1940.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Sven, MS-MVP Mobile Devices
> > >> "GPF" <GPF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:A6ADF346-6ADB-46E2-AFCA-A65EB2EB8E59@microsoft.com...
> > >> > Hi,
> > >> >
> > >> > I've an iPAQ1940 connected via usb to my PC. Why I can't see any
> > >> > device/share on my LAN? How can I set my iPAQ to get an IP address?
> > >> > vxIPConfig get a 192.168.55.101. I've a DHCP server in my LAN...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >

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OK.
The original question was about tcp/ip becaues my need is to print directly
form PPC to a network printer. So you think I'd use HP Mobile Printing. I
did. I try to configure it:
- BT (I haven't...)
- IR (I haven't...)
- LAN (you say PPC can't see my LAN...)

So... I can't print from my PPC?!?!

Maybe you think I'm pretending too much...

"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:

> If it's mostly printer problems, take a look at the HP mobile printing
> for PPC (it's free). It chews up several meg but can be mostly
> installed on a memory card. It will list and connect to shared
> printers to allow you to print some but not all document types. I
> think word, excel and outlook mail printing is supported by default.
>
> You'll have to buy (small cost) translators for the rest of your apps.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/33eyz
>
> Cheers - Neil
>
> On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 05:03:03 -0700, GPF
> <GPF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >Not at all. I've a printer, I share it but I can't use it.
> >
> >I'd like to print directrly from 1940. If tcp/ip or sharing are not
> >working... bluetooth or irda?
> >
> >And what if I want to use some "lan discover"? Tha same result?
> >
> >Thanks by now!
> >
> >"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote:
> >
> >> Have you got a firewall switched on, on the PC, which might reject
> >> Ping packets ?
> >>
> >> On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 00:27:03 -0700, GPF
> >> <GPF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >OK... this will help me.
> >> >
> >> >But now: why I can't ping my PC? I share a printer on PC but I can't use it.
> >> >I suppose my 1940 configuration is somewhat correct (I can use PIE from
> >> >1940...) as you say my PC act as a router.
> >> >
> >> >Thanks!
> >> >
> >> >"Sven, MVP-Mobile Devices" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> The ActiveSync connection only supports a subset of the IP protocol. As such
> >> >> not everything is supported. To do network browsing in a Windows network you
> >> >> actually have to support UDP as well, which this connection does not. The IP
> >> >> you are getting is because the AS process sets up a small network between
> >> >> your PC and PPC. You will find your PC is 192.168.55.100 in that network. It
> >> >> also sets up the PC as a router to allow the Internet Pass Through we are
> >> >> all familiar with.
> >> >>
> >> >> You will only get the full IP capability if you connect your PPC to the
> >> >> network directly. Normally that would be via an ethernet CF card, WiFi to an
> >> >> AP, or something like that. Not sure what options you have with a 1940.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Sven, MS-MVP Mobile Devices
> >> >> "GPF" <GPF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:A6ADF346-6ADB-46E2-AFCA-A65EB2EB8E59@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I've an iPAQ1940 connected via usb to my PC. Why I can't see any
> >> >> > device/share on my LAN? How can I set my iPAQ to get an IP address?
> >> >> > vxIPConfig get a 192.168.55.101. I've a DHCP server in my LAN...
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>