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yesterday i had the following problem:

i run a file backup with a third party software. after this i tried to copy
this files to a external usb harddisk (seagate 200GB). at the end of copying
a remaining time of about 7000000 minutes was shown and windows stop working.

i do not have any experiences with windows me. can me help someone with this
problem?

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

You didn't tell us ....

1) the type of file, i.e., its extension
2) the size of the original file and of the backup file
3) the name of the third-party backup software and its version
4) whether you used Explorer, or the third-party software, to copy the file
to the external storage
5) whether you used USB 1.0, 1.1, or 2.0
6) whether Device Manager shows any Marks for any related devices.

Begin by running scandisk on the file to confirm that it is well-formed.
Then try copying the file to a newly created folder using Explorer.
Then attempt to copy any small text file to the external storage. If it
succeeds, attempt to copy the backup file to the storage.
You may wish to consider copying the file to CD, if so equiped, for a
similar, different test, also.


And consider ...

Very large HD's as of Feb 2003

Please visit Maxtor and look at their FAQ about 200GB drives.
http://maxtor.custhelp.com/cgi-bin [...] _sp=&p_li=

Typically, these large drives are still mostly not supported by
motherboards and operating systems.
Drives over 137 GB (or 127.5GB ) requires use of extended interrupt 13 with
48 bit addressing.

Typically, the easiest way to use a 200GB drive on a Win98 system is to use
a
separate IDE interface card for the drive.

--
Jon Hildrum
DTS MVP
Jon_Hildrum@msn.com
www.hildrum.com
---
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
In Memorium: Alex Nichol
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp [...] ichol.mspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"tobi" <tobi@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:31AFDCC0-7B8B-419B-A3D0-912B3F3156B2@microsoft.com...
> yesterday i had the following problem:
>
> i run a file backup with a third party software. after this i tried to
copy
> this files to a external usb harddisk (seagate 200GB). at the end of
copying
> a remaining time of about 7000000 minutes was shown and windows stop
working.
>
> i do not have any experiences with windows me. can me help someone with
this
> problem?
>
>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

thanks for your answer!

i wrote the article 326429 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326429/EN-US/)
from microsoft knowlegde base which describes maybe the same problem for
windows 2000. an update is suggested in it. does a copareable update exists
for windows me?


ad 1: type of file .gho
ad 2: backup file ~2GB
ad 3: norton ghost
ad 4: i tried to copy with explorer
ad 5: USB 1.0
ad 6: the drive works without further problems.


"Jack E Martinelli" wrote:

> You didn't tell us ....
>
> 1) the type of file, i.e., its extension
> 2) the size of the original file and of the backup file
> 3) the name of the third-party backup software and its version
> 4) whether you used Explorer, or the third-party software, to copy the file
> to the external storage
> 5) whether you used USB 1.0, 1.1, or 2.0
> 6) whether Device Manager shows any Marks for any related devices.
>
> Begin by running scandisk on the file to confirm that it is well-formed.
> Then try copying the file to a newly created folder using Explorer.
> Then attempt to copy any small text file to the external storage. If it
> succeeds, attempt to copy the backup file to the storage.
> You may wish to consider copying the file to CD, if so equiped, for a
> similar, different test, also.
>
>
> And consider ...
>
> Very large HD's as of Feb 2003
>
> Please visit Maxtor and look at their FAQ about 200GB drives.
> http://maxtor.custhelp.com/cgi-bin [...] _sp=&p_li=
>
> Typically, these large drives are still mostly not supported by
> motherboards and operating systems.
> Drives over 137 GB (or 127.5GB ) requires use of extended interrupt 13 with
> 48 bit addressing.
>
> Typically, the easiest way to use a 200GB drive on a Win98 system is to use
> a
> separate IDE interface card for the drive.
>
> --
> Jon Hildrum
> DTS MVP
> Jon_Hildrum@msn.com
> www.hildrum.com
> ---
> --
> Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
> Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
> In Memorium: Alex Nichol
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp [...] ichol.mspx
> Your cooperation is very appreciated.
> ------
> "tobi" <tobi@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:31AFDCC0-7B8B-419B-A3D0-912B3F3156B2@microsoft.com...
> > yesterday i had the following problem:
> >
> > i run a file backup with a third party software. after this i tried to
> copy
> > this files to a external usb harddisk (seagate 200GB). at the end of
> copying
> > a remaining time of about 7000000 minutes was shown and windows stop
> working.
> >
> > i do not have any experiences with windows me. can me help someone with
> this
> > problem?
> >
> >
>
>
>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

That KB article is totally irrelevant to your situation.....

1) Win ME is incapable of writing files greater than 4GB in size - the
article references a filesize of >5GB

2)Win 2K as referenced in the article is a totally different OS to Win ME -
and should never be confused.

3)USB1.1 is a very slow transfer method, by any method of measurement! - I
would suggest that you either consider upgrading to USB2 (with a PCI add-on
card), or upgrading the system. Unless you do that, you are limited to a
rather snail's-pace transfer speed of 12MB/sec - on a good day!

4)Norton Ghost brings with it the almost unavoidable Liv\eUpdate - which is
almost guaranteed to break (at some point in the process) System Restore -
and invalidate perhaps all the good work it has purported to do.

5) Much easier to use a decent backup regime - almost anything that doesn't
involve the name 'Symantec' could do the job (personally, I use Dantz
Retrospect - but that's rather more pricey than the dross *currently*
offered by Norton!)



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"tobi" <tobi@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0F240B65-D41E-435C-A706-CAAEE31A0890@microsoft.com...
> thanks for your answer!
>
> i wrote the article 326429 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326429/EN-US/)
> from microsoft knowlegde base which describes maybe the same problem for
> windows 2000. an update is suggested in it. does a copareable update
> exists
> for windows me?
>
>
> ad 1: type of file .gho
> ad 2: backup file ~2GB
> ad 3: norton ghost
> ad 4: i tried to copy with explorer
> ad 5: USB 1.0
> ad 6: the drive works without further problems.
>
>
> "Jack E Martinelli" wrote:
>
>> You didn't tell us ....
>>
>> 1) the type of file, i.e., its extension
>> 2) the size of the original file and of the backup file
>> 3) the name of the third-party backup software and its version
>> 4) whether you used Explorer, or the third-party software, to copy the
>> file
>> to the external storage
>> 5) whether you used USB 1.0, 1.1, or 2.0
>> 6) whether Device Manager shows any Marks for any related devices.
>>
>> Begin by running scandisk on the file to confirm that it is well-formed.
>> Then try copying the file to a newly created folder using Explorer.
>> Then attempt to copy any small text file to the external storage. If it
>> succeeds, attempt to copy the backup file to the storage.
>> You may wish to consider copying the file to CD, if so equiped, for a
>> similar, different test, also.
>>
>>
>> And consider ...
>>
>> Very large HD's as of Feb 2003
>>
>> Please visit Maxtor and look at their FAQ about 200GB drives.
>> http://maxtor.custhelp.com/cgi-bin [...] _sp=&p_li=
>>
>> Typically, these large drives are still mostly not supported by
>> motherboards and operating systems.
>> Drives over 137 GB (or 127.5GB ) requires use of extended interrupt 13
>> with
>> 48 bit addressing.
>>
>> Typically, the easiest way to use a 200GB drive on a Win98 system is to
>> use
>> a
>> separate IDE interface card for the drive.
>>
>> --
>> Jon Hildrum
>> DTS MVP
>> Jon_Hildrum@msn.com
>> www.hildrum.com
>> ---
>> --
>> Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
>> Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
>> In Memorium: Alex Nichol
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp [...] ichol.mspx
>> Your cooperation is very appreciated.
>> ------
>> "tobi" <tobi@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:31AFDCC0-7B8B-419B-A3D0-912B3F3156B2@microsoft.com...
>> > yesterday i had the following problem:
>> >
>> > i run a file backup with a third party software. after this i tried to
>> copy
>> > this files to a external usb harddisk (seagate 200GB). at the end of
>> copying
>> > a remaining time of about 7000000 minutes was shown and windows stop
>> working.
>> >
>> > i do not have any experiences with windows me. can me help someone with
>> this
>> > problem?
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

Following up Noel, tobi, you didn't tell us your version of Norton Ghost.
The latest version, 9.0, incorporates the superior technology of the
recently purchased Powerquest Drive Image backup tool.
Older Ghost versions are entirely different.

Perhaps Heirloom will pop in and tell you about his recent experience with
his Acronis backup tool under XP.
He has been very happy with it, and I'm sure a version for WinME exists.

Retrospect from the Dantz Development Corporation is highly regarded. A
free trial used to be available.

I have successfully used over ten years several versions of Powerquest's
Drive Image to backup many Win9X and WinME systems.
I'm sure orphaned copies are still widely available from third-party
vendors.

Eg., Drive Image 2002 by Powerquest (CD-ROM) — DOS, Windows 95 / NT / XP /
2000 / Me / 98
Software: See all 8 items (Recommended: Why?)
Used & new from $9.75 Usually ships within 1-2 business days
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ [...] 02-8363323


And be sure to follow Noel's advice and upgrade the hardware to USB 2.0.
It's inexpensive and easy.
The increase in performance is dramatic!
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
In Memorium: Alex Nichol
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp [...] ichol.mspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:erQjCrqcFHA.2436@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> That KB article is totally irrelevant to your situation.....
>
> 1) Win ME is incapable of writing files greater than 4GB in size - the
> article references a filesize of >5GB
>
> 2)Win 2K as referenced in the article is a totally different OS to Win
ME -
> and should never be confused.
>
> 3)USB1.1 is a very slow transfer method, by any method of measurement! - I
> would suggest that you either consider upgrading to USB2 (with a PCI
add-on
> card), or upgrading the system. Unless you do that, you are limited to a
> rather snail's-pace transfer speed of 12MB/sec - on a good day!
>
> 4)Norton Ghost brings with it the almost unavoidable Liv\eUpdate - which
is
> almost guaranteed to break (at some point in the process) System Restore -
> and invalidate perhaps all the good work it has purported to do.
>
> 5) Much easier to use a decent backup regime - almost anything that
doesn't
> involve the name 'Symantec' could do the job (personally, I use Dantz
> Retrospect - but that's rather more pricey than the dross *currently*
> offered by Norton!)
>
>
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
>
> "tobi" <tobi@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0F240B65-D41E-435C-A706-CAAEE31A0890@microsoft.com...
> > thanks for your answer!
> >
> > i wrote the article 326429
(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326429/EN-US/)
> > from microsoft knowlegde base which describes maybe the same problem for
> > windows 2000. an update is suggested in it. does a copareable update
> > exists
> > for windows me?
> >
> >
> > ad 1: type of file .gho
> > ad 2: backup file ~2GB
> > ad 3: norton ghost
> > ad 4: i tried to copy with explorer
> > ad 5: USB 1.0
> > ad 6: the drive works without further problems.
> >
> >
> > "Jack E Martinelli" wrote:
> >
> >> You didn't tell us ....
> >>
> >> 1) the type of file, i.e., its extension
> >> 2) the size of the original file and of the backup file
> >> 3) the name of the third-party backup software and its version
> >> 4) whether you used Explorer, or the third-party software, to copy the
> >> file
> >> to the external storage
> >> 5) whether you used USB 1.0, 1.1, or 2.0
> >> 6) whether Device Manager shows any Marks for any related devices.
> >>
> >> Begin by running scandisk on the file to confirm that it is
well-formed.
> >> Then try copying the file to a newly created folder using Explorer.
> >> Then attempt to copy any small text file to the external storage. If
it
> >> succeeds, attempt to copy the backup file to the storage.
> >> You may wish to consider copying the file to CD, if so equiped, for a
> >> similar, different test, also.
> >>
> >>
> >> And consider ...
> >>
> >> Very large HD's as of Feb 2003
> >>
> >> Please visit Maxtor and look at their FAQ about 200GB drives.
> >>
http://maxtor.custhelp.com/cgi-bin [...] _sp=&p_li=
> >>
> >> Typically, these large drives are still mostly not supported by
> >> motherboards and operating systems.
> >> Drives over 137 GB (or 127.5GB ) requires use of extended interrupt 13
> >> with
> >> 48 bit addressing.
> >>
> >> Typically, the easiest way to use a 200GB drive on a Win98 system is to
> >> use
> >> a
> >> separate IDE interface card for the drive.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jon Hildrum
> >> DTS MVP
> >> Jon_Hildrum@msn.com
> >> www.hildrum.com
> >> ---
> >> --
> >> Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
> >> Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
> >> In Memorium: Alex Nichol
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp [...] ichol.mspx
> >> Your cooperation is very appreciated.
> >> ------
> >> "tobi" <tobi@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:31AFDCC0-7B8B-419B-A3D0-912B3F3156B2@microsoft.com...
> >> > yesterday i had the following problem:
> >> >
> >> > i run a file backup with a third party software. after this i tried
to
> >> copy
> >> > this files to a external usb harddisk (seagate 200GB). at the end of
> >> copying
> >> > a remaining time of about 7000000 minutes was shown and windows stop
> >> working.
> >> >
> >> > i do not have any experiences with windows me. can me help someone
with
> >> this
> >> > problem?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>