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Info:

http://safer-networking.org/en/news/2005-05-31.html

I was only able to connect to the Beta News mirror for the download.

It's recommended that you uninstall the previous version. See the
following instructions for uninstalling and reinstalling:

http://forums.net-integration.net/ [...] opic=30923

Everything appears to be okay here with the new release.

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TomV <t@nospam.net> wrote:

> Info:
>
> http://safer-networking.org/en/news/2005-05-31.html
>
> I was only able to connect to the Beta News mirror for the download.

Same here ten minutes ago.

> It's recommended that you uninstall the previous version. See the
> following instructions for uninstalling and reinstalling:
>
> http://forums.net-integration.net/ [...] opic=30923
>
> Everything appears to be okay here with the new release.

Have yet to fully deploy so cannot comment as yet.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP
mike.maltby@gmail.com

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Cheers, Tom. This appears to be the week for new Anti-Spyware versions!


Shane



"TomV" <t@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> Info:
>
> http://safer-networking.org/en/news/2005-05-31.html
>
> I was only able to connect to the Beta News mirror for the download.
>
> It's recommended that you uninstall the previous version. See the
> following instructions for uninstalling and reinstalling:
>
> http://forums.net-integration.net/ [...] opic=30923
>
> Everything appears to be okay here with the new release.

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Shane,

I was thinking the same. Patrick Kolla and his group have been working
on this new release for some time. Their efforts seem to have been
worth the wait, and their hard work is much appreciated.

Cheers,
Tom

Shane wrote:
> Cheers, Tom. This appears to be the week for new Anti-Spyware versions!
>
>
> Shane
>

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"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:%23WTDSNtZFHA.3840@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> TomV <t@nospam.net> wrote:
>
> > Info:
> >
> > http://safer-networking.org/en/news/2005-05-31.html
> >
> > I was only able to connect to the Beta News mirror for the download.
>
> Same here ten minutes ago.

I'm downloading now (for the other machine) from the See-cure.de mirror -
though it took an awful long time for the download to start!

In fact it's so appallingly slow I'm going to cancel and download fron the
Beta News mirror again! Yes, it's coming down about 15x faster from the Beta
News mirror!

>
> > It's recommended that you uninstall the previous version. See the
> > following instructions for uninstalling and reinstalling:
> >
> > http://forums.net-integration.net/ [...] opic=30923
> >
> > Everything appears to be okay here with the new release.
>
> Have yet to fully deploy so cannot comment as yet.

It does seem to download some pretty old updates straight out of the box.
Minor detail.

On at least two of the three installations I've already done, the updates
mirror was See-cure.de, so nothing seemed to happen for a very long time.
Ctrl-Alt-Del'd it, then restarted and the mirror was now RootBoxen (on XP)
or Safer Networking #1 Europe (on ME, 98se and ME again) and the updates
came down no problem.

With the updates installed, we're back to, every time we open the Immunize
window - though actually there's an increase of 1, so the glass-half-full
perspective has us in profit! - "1992 bad products already blocked, 3
additional protections possible. Please immunize." Over and over and over.
No doubt they'll be dealing with this. It doesn't happen in XP.


Shane

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Shane wrote:

> I'm downloading now (for the other machine) from the See-cure.de mirror -
> though it took an awful long time for the download to start!
>
> In fact it's so appallingly slow I'm going to cancel and download fron the
> Beta News mirror again! Yes, it's coming down about 15x faster from the Beta
> News mirror!

Majorgeeks has the download now also.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/SpyBot-S [...] d2471.html

> It does seem to download some pretty old updates straight out of the box.
> Minor detail.

Yep, the May 13 detection rules were installed.

>
> On at least two of the three installations I've already done, the updates
> mirror was See-cure.de, so nothing seemed to happen for a very long time.
> Ctrl-Alt-Del'd it, then restarted and the mirror was now RootBoxen (on XP)
> or Safer Networking #1 Europe (on ME, 98se and ME again) and the updates
> came down no problem.

I generally use Rootboxen or Safer Networking also, and as you indicate
there was no problem.

>
> With the updates installed, we're back to, every time we open the Immunize
> window - though actually there's an increase of 1, so the glass-half-full
> perspective has us in profit! - "1992 bad products already blocked, 3
> additional protections possible. Please immunize." Over and over and over.
> No doubt they'll be dealing with this. It doesn't happen in XP.

I'm seeing the same with the immunize function on Win ME. XP appears to
be okay.

>
> Shane

Cheers,
Tom

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I too had trouble with the see-cure sites. On a cable connection, was
trending over an hour to download so went to the Beta News site and it
took less than a minute.
I'm experiencing the same problem with IMMUNIZE on my Windows Me
laptop. It indicates 1992 blocked with an additional 3 available and
even though I click to Immunize, it keeps showing 3 available.
Strangely on my Win 98 SE box IMMUNIZE shows "3133 bad products are
now blocked" with no indication of additional bad products.

Does this make any sense at all? Are the so called bad products
dependent upon the O/S ?

Dan

"Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
> news:%23WTDSNtZFHA.3840@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > TomV <t@nospam.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Info:
> > >
> > > http://safer-networking.org/en/news/2005-05-31.html
> > >
> > > I was only able to connect to the Beta News mirror for the
download.
> >
> > Same here ten minutes ago.
>
> I'm downloading now (for the other machine) from the See-cure.de
mirror -
> though it took an awful long time for the download to start!
>
> In fact it's so appallingly slow I'm going to cancel and download
fron the
> Beta News mirror again! Yes, it's coming down about 15x faster from
the Beta
> News mirror!
>
> >
> > > It's recommended that you uninstall the previous version. See
the
> > > following instructions for uninstalling and reinstalling:
> > >
> > > http://forums.net-integration.net/ [...] opic=30923
> > >
> > > Everything appears to be okay here with the new release.
> >
> > Have yet to fully deploy so cannot comment as yet.
>
> It does seem to download some pretty old updates straight out of the
box.
> Minor detail.
>
> On at least two of the three installations I've already done, the
updates
> mirror was See-cure.de, so nothing seemed to happen for a very long
time.
> Ctrl-Alt-Del'd it, then restarted and the mirror was now RootBoxen
(on XP)
> or Safer Networking #1 Europe (on ME, 98se and ME again) and the
updates
> came down no problem.
>
> With the updates installed, we're back to, every time we open the
Immunize
> window - though actually there's an increase of 1, so the
glass-half-full
> perspective has us in profit! - "1992 bad products already blocked,
3
> additional protections possible. Please immunize." Over and over and
over.
> No doubt they'll be dealing with this. It doesn't happen in XP.
>
>
> Shane
>
>
>

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Tom:
I am greatful for your contribution and followed the instructions to the
'z'.
Everything went fine, except for the immunization part, which was ok. with
vers.1.3, but here leaves me with 1990 bad products blocked (not 1992 as
with Shane) and 3 to go.
When I click on immunize, it will temporarily immunize those three, but then
go right back to before.
Can this be corrected?

Harry.


"TomV" <t@nospam.net> wrote in message
news$5rXCtZFHA.2444@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Info:
>
> http://safer-networking.org/en/news/2005-05-31.html
>
> I was only able to connect to the Beta News mirror for the download.
>
> It's recommended that you uninstall the previous version. See the
> following instructions for uninstalling and reinstalling:
>
> http://forums.net-integration.net/ [...] opic=30923
>
> Everything appears to be okay here with the new release.

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Harry,

Glad to hear everything went well. Apparently, the immunize issue is
occurring on WinMe only. I suspect either Spybot will offer an update
at some point in the future to correct the issue. The problem has been
reported in the Spybot forum. If there is a fix, I'm sure it will turn
up here. It's nothing major to be concerned about, more a PIA than
anything else.

Tom

webster72n wrote:
> Tom:
> I am greatful for your contribution and followed the instructions to the
> 'z'.
> Everything went fine, except for the immunization part, which was ok. with
> vers.1.3, but here leaves me with 1990 bad products blocked (not 1992 as
> with Shane) and 3 to go.
> When I click on immunize, it will temporarily immunize those three, but then
> go right back to before.
> Can this be corrected?
>
> Harry.
>

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Tom, the behaviour is identical on my 98se installation, if not on Dapper
Dan's. Having just read Heirloom stating that it seems to be a ME-only issue
I feel I should reiterate this just in case people are looking for what is
unique to Win ME as a cause.

Shane


"TomV" <t@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> Harry,
>
> Glad to hear everything went well. Apparently, the immunize issue is
> occurring on WinMe only. I suspect either Spybot will offer an update
> at some point in the future to correct the issue. The problem has been
> reported in the Spybot forum. If there is a fix, I'm sure it will turn
> up here. It's nothing major to be concerned about, more a PIA than
> anything else.
>
> Tom
>
> webster72n wrote:
> > Tom:
> > I am greatful for your contribution and followed the instructions to the
> > 'z'.
> > Everything went fine, except for the immunization part, which was ok.
with
> > vers.1.3, but here leaves me with 1990 bad products blocked (not 1992 as
> > with Shane) and 3 to go.
> > When I click on immunize, it will temporarily immunize those three, but
then
> > go right back to before.
> > Can this be corrected?
> >
> > Harry.
> >

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Therefore I will not worry about it until there is a fix, Tom.
Thank you for the reassurance.

Harry.


"TomV" <t@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:eMF%23%23U$ZFHA.2520@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Harry,
>
> Glad to hear everything went well. Apparently, the immunize issue is
> occurring on WinMe only. I suspect either Spybot will offer an update
> at some point in the future to correct the issue. The problem has been
> reported in the Spybot forum. If there is a fix, I'm sure it will turn
> up here. It's nothing major to be concerned about, more a PIA than
> anything else.
>
> Tom
>
> webster72n wrote:
> > Tom:
> > I am greatful for your contribution and followed the instructions to the
> > 'z'.
> > Everything went fine, except for the immunization part, which was ok.
with
> > vers.1.3, but here leaves me with 1990 bad products blocked (not 1992 as
> > with Shane) and 3 to go.
> > When I click on immunize, it will temporarily immunize those three, but
then
> > go right back to before.
> > Can this be corrected?
> >
> > Harry.
> >

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Dapper Dan wrote:
<snip>
>
> Just a quick heads up that in Settings - Ignore products - All
> products, the following three entries are checked by default and may
> well be best unchecked.
>
> CDilla
> SideStep
> New.Net

huh?

Why would S&D default to not ignoring those pests ? (I'm not familiar
with the first two, but New.net is a CWS variant, no?)


Rick

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Hi, Shane,

I should have been clear that it's Win 9x systems, not just ME. Thanks
for pointing that out.

Tom

Shane wrote:
> Tom, the behaviour is identical on my 98se installation, if not on Dapper
> Dan's. Having just read Heirloom stating that it seems to be a ME-only issue
> I feel I should reiterate this just in case people are looking for what is
> unique to Win ME as a cause.
>
> Shane

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CDilla is the copy protection agent, or service, from Safe Cast, which first
gained notoriaty when used, without notice or explanation, in Intuit's
TurboTax 2002 and Quicken, and similar products.
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp/t1077731055

AFAIK, it is not spyware, but is a constantly running service which
authenicates the current installed application as not counterfeit.
Intuit begain using it when they observed that something like 85% of the
electronic tax filings through their IRS-connected vendors were created
using pirated TurboTax copies.
-----

Uninstalling TurboTax 2002 and SAFECAST (C-Dilla) components
SUMMARY:
Important: Do not use a third-party program (such as Norton Uninstaller) to
uninstall TurboTax, as these programs may delete your tax return data.

Instructions:

Windows 95, Windows 98 or 98SE, or Windows Me:

On the Windows taskbar, click Start, choose Programs, choose TurboTax
[version] 2002, and then choose Uninstall.
Click Yes at the message "This will permanently remove this program from
your computer. Are you sure that you wish to continue?"
Click Yes To All in the Remove Shared File window, and then click OK.
After TurboTax has been removed from your computer, run the SafeCast
Uninstaller.
When finished, restart your computer.
http://support.turbotax.com/turbotax/doc/0160000061
---

In my hands under XP, the impact on performance is negligible.
I consider it a rational and acceptible response to widespread piracy of
several very popular products.
Similarly, I have no problem with MS's WPA policy.
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 M