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I've migrated from ZA Free to Kerio due to
conflicts/lockups associated with ZA Free.

Could someone please provide configuration 'best
practices' for Kerio?

Any suggestions are much appreciated.

KB

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On Fri, 20 May 2005 21:33:28 -0700, KB wrote:

> I've migrated from ZA Free to Kerio due to
> conflicts/lockups associated with ZA Free.
>
> Could someone please provide configuration 'best
> practices' for Kerio?
>
> Any suggestions are much appreciated.
>
> KB

Which version of Kerio? Some of us KPF users remained on version 2.1.5.

--
Norman
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~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

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After reading the posts here, I went with version 2.1.5.

Are there ever definition updates? ZA was a lot fancier
and had more features that I'm not finding in Kerio.
That, in itself, doesn't bother me but I'd like to have
Kerio set up as well as I can.

Thanks, Norman.

KB
>-----Original Message-----
>On Fri, 20 May 2005 21:33:28 -0700, KB wrote:
>
>> I've migrated from ZA Free to Kerio due to
>> conflicts/lockups associated with ZA Free.
>>
>> Could someone please provide configuration 'best
>> practices' for Kerio?
>>
>> Any suggestions are much appreciated.
>>
>> KB
>
>Which version of Kerio? Some of us KPF users remained on
version 2.1.5.
>
>--
>Norman
>~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
>~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
>~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
>.
>

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"KB" wrote:
> After reading the posts here, I went with version 2.1.5.
>
> Are there ever definition updates? ZA was a lot fancier
> and had more features that I'm not finding in Kerio.
> That, in itself, doesn't bother me but I'd like to have
> Kerio set up as well as I can.

Kerio v2.1.5 is a bare-bones, small footprint software firewall.
I've been running it for years without any issues.

There are no updates for this particular build since it works.
Comparing Kerio to ZA would be like comparing apples to oranges.

If you like a user-controlled, rules-based package, it's for you.
Support; <http://www.dslreports.com/forum/kerio>

Regards,
Silj

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MS - MVP Windows (IE/OE) & Security, AH-VSOP
_________________________________________
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siljaline wrote:

> Comparing Kerio to ZA would be like comparing apples to oranges.

well so much for my next question...

<g>


Rick

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> There are no updates for this particular build since it works.
> Comparing Kerio to ZA would be like comparing apples to oranges.

Horse apples, that is. Kerio is the oranges.



Shane

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> Horse apples, that is. Kerio is the oranges.

I didn't say that...
Or, should I?

Silj

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_________________________________________
Security Tools Updates
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I just feel someone should speak up for apples.

Shane


"siljaline" <siljaline@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> > Horse apples, that is. Kerio is the oranges.
>
> I didn't say that...
> Or, should I?
>
> Silj
>
> --
> siljaline
>
> MS - MVP Windows (IE/OE) & Security, AH-VSOP
> _________________________________________
> Security Tools Updates
> http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=31
>
> (Reply to group, as return address
> is invalid - that we may all benefit)
>
>
>
>

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KB wrote:
> I've migrated from ZA Free to Kerio due to
> conflicts/lockups associated with ZA Free.
>
> Could someone please provide configuration 'best
> practices' for Kerio?
>
> Any suggestions are much appreciated.
>
> KB
There are links to both the older, but extremely streamlined and
functional, version 2.1.5, AND 3 different configuration file sets at
Sponge's page: www.geocities.com/yosponge.

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I went back to Zone Alarm, big footprint and all. The latest version seems
to run without lockups. For a newbie, it's very friendly.

Shane:
If I need to write my own ruleset program (should Kerio get lost), what's
the advantage?

Bad Apple

p.s. Unnecessary flogging not required.

Thanks, Shane.
"Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I just feel someone should speak up for apples.
>
> Shane
>
>
> "siljaline" <siljaline@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:%23wdj488XFHA.3712@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > Horse apples, that is. Kerio is the oranges.
> >
> > I didn't say that...
> > Or, should I?
> >
> > Silj
> >
> > --
> > siljaline
> >
> > MS - MVP Windows (IE/OE) & Security, AH-VSOP
> > _________________________________________
> > Security Tools Updates
> > http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=31
> >
> > (Reply to group, as return address
> > is invalid - that we may all benefit)
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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"KB" <KB@discussions.winme> wrote in message
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> I went back to Zone Alarm, big footprint and all. The latest version
seems
> to run without lockups. For a newbie, it's very friendly.
>

That's the thing about ZA - when it works it's the ideal software firewall
for newbs.

> Shane:
> If I need to write my own ruleset program (should Kerio get lost), what's
> the advantage?

Would you like to rephrase that, KB? I don't entirely understand the
question.

>
> Bad Apple
>

<g>

> p.s. Unnecessary flogging not required.

The word Knackers comes to mind?



Shane

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Shane:
To elaborate, I read a post you had to Harry (webster72) offering to send
him your written program that created backups of the rulesets, or something
of the sort. I recalled you mentioning that, at times (18 mo. - 24 mo.),
Kerio had lost it's ruleset although it could have been user related.

Anyway, the version of ZA I'm running seems good. No lockups, passed
'shields up' with flying colors.

"The word Knackers comes to mind"
<lol>

Thanks, Shane.

Take care.

KB

"Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "KB" <KB@discussions.winme> wrote in message
> news:uMnVP9KZFHA.164@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > I went back to Zone Alarm, big footprint and all. The latest version
> seems
> > to run without lockups. For a newbie, it's very friendly.
> >
>
> That's the thing about ZA - when it works it's the ideal software firewall
> for newbs.
>
> > Shane:
> > If I need to write my own ruleset program (should Kerio get lost),
what's
> > the advantage?
>
> Would you like to rephrase that, KB? I don't entirely understand the
> question.
>
> >
> > Bad Apple
> >
>
> <g>
>
> > p.s. Unnecessary flogging not required.
>
> The word Knackers comes to mind?
>
>
>
> Shane
>
>

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Fine, KB.

Though it's not *(could have been) user related*, but may be an
incompatibility with some other software (in which the other software is the
antagonist). However, the evidence is, so far, circumstantial. Something
that happens at the most only once a year is difficult to pin down! It may
equally be a little-known vulnerability in the firewall. At least such
cannot be ruled out.

This is the batch (.bat) script for backing up the ruleset once per day:

----------------

@echo off
cls
if "%bu_loop%"=="1" goto Kerio2
echo.| date | find "Current" > curren1.bat
echo set etfday=%%3 %%4> current.bat
call curren1
echo %etfday% >current.tmp
if not exist today.txt goto Kerio1
fc current.tmp today.txt >curren1.tmp
find "encountered" curren1.tmp
if errorlevel==0 if not errorlevel==1 goto deltmps
:Kerio1
if not exist "C:\Program Files\Kerio\Personal Firewall\nul" goto deltmps
if not exist C:\Kerio_BU\nul MD C:\Kerio_BU
set bu_dir=BU1 BU2 BU3 BU4 BU5 BU6 BU7
set bu_loop=1
call run_etf %bu_dir%
:Kerio2
set bu_dir=%1
if not exist C:\Kerio_BU\%bu_dir%\nul MD C:\Kerio_BU\%bu_dir%
if not exist C:\Kerio_BU\%bu_dir%\persfw.conf copy "C:\Program
Files\Kerio\Personal Firewall\*.conf" C:\Kerio_BU\%bu_dir%
if "%bu_dir%"=="BU7" goto Kerio3
shift
goto Kerio2
goto end
:Kerio3
deltree /y C:\Kerio_BU\BU1
move C:\Kerio_BU\BU2 C:\Kerio_BU\BU1
move C:\Kerio_BU\BU3 C:\Kerio_BU\BU2
move C:\Kerio_BU\BU4 C:\Kerio_BU\BU3
move C:\Kerio_BU\BU5 C:\Kerio_BU\BU4
move C:\Kerio_BU\BU6 C:\Kerio_BU\BU5
move C:\Kerio_BU\BU7 C:\Kerio_BU\BU6
MD C:\Kerio_BU\BU7
copy "C:\Program Files\Kerio\Personal Firewall\*.conf"
C:\Kerio_BU\BU7eltmps
echo %etfday% >today.txt
if exist curren?.??? del curren?.???
set bu_loop=
set bu_dir=
set etfday=
:end
cls
exit
cls

-----------------





Shane


"KB" <KB@discussions.winme> wrote in message
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> Shane:
> To elaborate, I read a post you had to Harry (webster72) offering to send
> him your written program that created backups of the rulesets, or
something
> of the sort. I recalled you mentioning that, at times (18 mo. - 24 mo.),
> Kerio had lost it's ruleset although it could have been user related.
>
> Anyway, the version of ZA I'm running seems good. No lockups, passed
> 'shields up' with flying colors.
>
> "The word Knackers comes to mind"
> <lol>
>
> Thanks, Shane.
>
> Take care.
>
> KB
>
> "Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uR$0EeWZFHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> >
> > "KB" <KB@discussions.winme> wrote in message
> > news:uMnVP9KZFHA.164@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > I went back to Zone Alarm, big footprint and all. The latest version
> > seems
> > > to run without lockups. For a newbie, it's very friendly.
> > >
> >
> > That's the thing about ZA - when it works it's the ideal software
firewall
> > for newbs.
> >
> > > Shane:
> > > If I need to write my own ruleset program (should Kerio get lost),
> what's
> > > the advantage?
> >
> > Would you like to rephrase that, KB? I don't entirely understand the
> > question.
> >
> > >
> > > Bad Apple
> > >
> >
> > <g>
> >
> > > p.s. Unnecessary flogging not required.
> >
> > The word Knackers comes to mind?
> >
> >
> >
> > Shane
> >
> >
>
>

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Just to add to that, the batch has to be named RUN_ETF.BAT (on account of
it's a stripped down version of one that was originally meant to run
EmptyTempFolders every day and I've left the references in there. That or
every instance of Run_ETF has to be altered to reflect the new name of the
batch).

Also it was originally meant for running in the Command folder, but I
stripped those references out. Now it can be run from anywhere - but it
produces a text file by which it identifies if it's already run "today" (so
it has to be retained, therefore it's best to run from a folder that you
don't spend a lot of time in). Wherever it's run from, a shortcut to the
batch should be made and *that* placed in Start\Programs\Startup.

Also, if cutting and pasting from the previous post, note the wrapped line
at Program Files.


Shane


"Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Fine, KB.
>
> Though it's not *(could have been) user related*, but may be an
> incompatibility with some other software (in which the other software is
> the
> antagonist). However, the evidence is, so far, circumstantial. Something
> that happens at the most only once a year is difficult to pin down! It may
> equally be a little-known vulnerability in the firewall. At least such
> cannot be ruled out.
>
> This is the batch (.bat) script for backing up the ruleset once per day:
>
> ----------------
>
> @echo off
> cls
> if "%bu_loop%"=="1" goto Kerio2
> echo.| date | find "Current" > curren1.bat
> echo set etfday=%%3 %%4> current.bat
> call curren1
> echo %etfday% >current.tmp
> if not exist today.txt goto Kerio1
> fc current.tmp today.txt >curren1.tmp
> find "encountered" curren1.tmp
> if errorlevel==0 if not errorlevel==1 goto deltmps
> :Kerio1
> if not exist "C:\Program Files\Kerio\Personal Firewall\nul" goto deltmps
> if not exist C:\Kerio_BU\nul MD C:\Kerio_BU
> set bu_dir=BU1 BU2 BU3 BU4 BU5 BU6 BU7
> set bu_loop=1
> call run_etf %bu_dir%
> :Kerio2
> set bu_dir=%1
> if not exist C:\Kerio_BU\%bu_dir%\nul MD C:\Kerio_BU\%bu_dir%
> if not exist C:\Kerio_BU\%bu_dir%\persfw.conf copy "C:\Program
> Files\Kerio\Personal Firewall\*.conf" C:\Kerio_BU\%bu_dir%
> if "%bu_dir%"=="BU7" goto Kerio3
> shift
> goto Kerio2
> goto end
> :Kerio3
> deltree /y C:\Kerio_BU\BU1
> move C:\Kerio_BU\BU2 C:\Kerio_BU\BU1
> move C:\Kerio_BU\BU3 C:\Kerio_BU\BU2
> move C:\Kerio_BU\BU4 C:\Kerio_BU\BU3
> move C:\Kerio_BU\BU5 C:\Kerio_BU\BU4
> move C:\Kerio_BU\BU6 C:\Kerio_BU\BU5
> move C:\Kerio_BU\BU7 C:\Kerio_BU\BU6
> MD C:\Kerio_BU\BU7
> copy "C:\Program Files\Kerio\Personal Firewall\*.conf"
> C:\Kerio_BU\BU7eltmps
> echo %etfday% >today.txt
> if exist curren?.??? del curren?.???
> set bu_loop=
> set bu_dir=
> set etfday=
> :end
> cls
> exit
> cls
>
> -----------------
>
>
>
>
>
> Shane
>
>
> "KB" <KB@discussions.winme> wrote in message
> news:uqNoJAjZFHA.1088@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> Shane:
>> To elaborate, I read a post you had to Harry (webster72) offering to send
>> him your written program that created backups of the rulesets, or
> something
>> of the sort. I recalled you mentioning that, at times (18 mo. - 24 mo.),
>> Kerio had lost it's ruleset although it could have been user related.
>>
>> Anyway, the version of ZA I'm running seems good. No lockups, passed
>> 'shields up' with flying colors.
>>
>> "The word Knackers comes to mind"
>> <lol>
>>
>> Thanks, Shane.
>>
>> Take care.
>>
>> KB
>>
>> "Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uR$0EeWZFHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> >
>> > "KB" <KB@discussions.winme> wrote in message
>> > news:uMnVP9KZFHA.164@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> > > I went back to Zone Alarm, big footprint and all. The latest version
>> > seems
>> > > to run without lockups. For a newbie, it's very friendly.
>> > >
>> >
>> > That's the thing about ZA - when it works it's the ideal software
> firewall
>> > for newbs.
>> >
>> > > Shane:
>> > > If I need to write my own ruleset program (should Kerio get lost),
>> what's
>> > > the advantage?
>> >
>> > Would you like to rephrase that, KB? I don't entirely understand the
>> > question.
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Bad Apple
>> > >
>> >
>> > <g>
>> >
>> > > p.s. Unnecessary flogging not required.
>> >
>> > The word Knackers comes to mind?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Shane
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>