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Cas & Power Supply

Cooler Master Praetorian SILVER ALUMINUM MID-TOWER CASE, Model "PAC-T01-E1"

Cooler Master Real Power 120mm fan 450W Power Supply With Active PFC,
Model "RS-450-ACLY"

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Motherboard, CPU and cooler

MSI "K8N Neo4 Platinum" NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Chipset Motherboard For AMD
Socket 939 CPU

AMD Athlon 64 3500+, Socket 939, 512KB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor

ZALMAN CPU Cooler for Socket 478/A/754/939/940 With FAN Speed
Controller, Model "CNPS7700-Cu LED"

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Memory, Video, HD

Corsair Value Select Memory 184 Pin 1GB DDR PC-3200, Model VS1GB400C3 -
Retail

ASUS ATI RADEON X300 Video Card, 128MB DDR, 128-Bit, DVI/TV-Out, PCI
Express, Model "EAX300/TD/128"

Seagate 7200.8 200GB 7200RPM SATA NCQ Hard Drive, Model ST3200826AS, OEM

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The final cost is a little over US$1000. What other components have I
left out?

I have a few questions:

I have always used ATI video cards. Does Asus make quality video cards?
Analog output quality is my concern and I like that it doesn't have a fan.

Is Corsair Value good when comparing to Cruical?

Does Zalman CNPS7700-Cu fit the motherboard? Do I need to downgrade to
7000 and/or Al-Cu?

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"chris" <someone@somewhere.net> wrote in message
news:JppMd.8459$S3.7837@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Cas & Power Supply
>
> Cooler Master Praetorian SILVER ALUMINUM MID-TOWER CASE, Model
> "PAC-T01-E1"
>
> Cooler Master Real Power 120mm fan 450W Power Supply With Active PFC,
> Model "RS-450-ACLY"
>
> ------
>
> Motherboard, CPU and cooler
>
> MSI "K8N Neo4 Platinum" NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Chipset Motherboard For AMD
> Socket 939 CPU
>
> AMD Athlon 64 3500+, Socket 939, 512KB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor
>
> ZALMAN CPU Cooler for Socket 478/A/754/939/940 With FAN Speed Controller,
> Model "CNPS7700-Cu LED"
>
> ------
>
> Memory, Video, HD
>
> Corsair Value Select Memory 184 Pin 1GB DDR PC-3200, Model VS1GB400C3 -
> Retail
>
> ASUS ATI RADEON X300 Video Card, 128MB DDR, 128-Bit, DVI/TV-Out, PCI
> Express, Model "EAX300/TD/128"
>
> Seagate 7200.8 200GB 7200RPM SATA NCQ Hard Drive, Model ST3200826AS, OEM
>
> ------
>
> The final cost is a little over US$1000. What other components have I left
> out?
>
> I have a few questions:
>
> I have always used ATI video cards. Does Asus make quality video cards?
> Analog output quality is my concern and I like that it doesn't have a fan.

Asus make excellent graphics cards, but i think the Radeon X300 is very low
spec, you should try get something better such as an X600.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] 516&depa=0

>
> Is Corsair Value good when comparing to Cruical?

Pretty much the same, shop around for the memory, if budget is a concern you
might go with Crucial or Kingston and maybe get better memory for less cost.


>
> Does Zalman CNPS7700-Cu fit the motherboard? Do I need to downgrade to
> 7000 and/or Al-Cu?

Personally i'd go with a Thermalright XP-90, it will fit any motherboard and
excellent cooling. You're CPU is also good but do try and get the Winchester
version as it's cooler + overclocks better.

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/thxpforforin1.html

This one is cheaper then Newegg + is retail with fan.

What about a DVD burner?...NEC 3520 is the way to go.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] 040&depa=0

Silver to go with your case :-)

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Richard Dower wrote:
> "chris" <someone@somewhere.net> wrote in message
> news:JppMd.8459$S3.7837@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>
>>Cas & Power Supply
>>
>>Cooler Master Praetorian SILVER ALUMINUM MID-TOWER CASE, Model
>>"PAC-T01-E1"
>>
>>Cooler Master Real Power 120mm fan 450W Power Supply With Active PFC,
>>Model "RS-450-ACLY"
>>
>>------
>>
>>Motherboard, CPU and cooler
>>
>>MSI "K8N Neo4 Platinum" NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Chipset Motherboard For AMD
>>Socket 939 CPU
>>
>>AMD Athlon 64 3500+, Socket 939, 512KB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor
>>
>>ZALMAN CPU Cooler for Socket 478/A/754/939/940 With FAN Speed Controller,
>>Model "CNPS7700-Cu LED"
>>
>>------
>>
>>Memory, Video, HD
>>
>>Corsair Value Select Memory 184 Pin 1GB DDR PC-3200, Model VS1GB400C3 -
>>Retail
>>
>>ASUS ATI RADEON X300 Video Card, 128MB DDR, 128-Bit, DVI/TV-Out, PCI
>>Express, Model "EAX300/TD/128"
>>
>>Seagate 7200.8 200GB 7200RPM SATA NCQ Hard Drive, Model ST3200826AS, OEM
>>
>>------
>>
>>The final cost is a little over US$1000. What other components have I left
>>out?
>>
>>I have a few questions:
>>
>>I have always used ATI video cards. Does Asus make quality video cards?
>>Analog output quality is my concern and I like that it doesn't have a fan.
>
>
> Asus make excellent graphics cards, but i think the Radeon X300 is very low
> spec, you should try get something better such as an X600.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] 516&depa=0
>
>
>>Is Corsair Value good when comparing to Cruical?
>
>
> Pretty much the same, shop around for the memory, if budget is a concern you
> might go with Crucial or Kingston and maybe get better memory for less cost.
>
>
>
>>Does Zalman CNPS7700-Cu fit the motherboard? Do I need to downgrade to
>>7000 and/or Al-Cu?
>
>
> Personally i'd go with a Thermalright XP-90, it will fit any motherboard and
> excellent cooling. You're CPU is also good but do try and get the Winchester
> version as it's cooler + overclocks better.
>
> http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/thxpforforin1.html
>
> This one is cheaper then Newegg + is retail with fan.
>
> What about a DVD burner?...NEC 3520 is the way to go.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] 040&depa=0
>
> Silver to go with your case :-)


How about Abit X600?

ABIT ATI RADEON X600 PRO Video Card, 256MB DDR, 128-Bit, DVI/HDTV-Out,
PCI Express, Model "RX600PRO-HDTV"

This one is reasonably priced. I don't know about the HDTV output
thinggy. I am scared about having one more fan on the video card though.
I want my computer to be quiet. I don't do games, but lots of Photoshop,
video editing and the current AthlonXP can't run the new Gigastudio,
thus this new athlon64 pc. I might learn some 3D graphics design so I
guess a faster video is not a bad idea. I just worry about the noise level.

BTW, the Corsair VALUE is the cheapest memory choice. This is why I am
questioning about the quality.

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chris wrote:
> Richard Dower wrote:
>
>> "chris" <someone@somewhere.net> wrote in message
>> news:JppMd.8459$S3.7837@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>
>>> Cas & Power Supply
>>>
>>> Cooler Master Praetorian SILVER ALUMINUM MID-TOWER CASE, Model
>>> "PAC-T01-E1"
>>>
>>> Cooler Master Real Power 120mm fan 450W Power Supply With Active PFC,
>>> Model "RS-450-ACLY"
>>>
>>> ------
>>>
>>> Motherboard, CPU and cooler
>>>
>>> MSI "K8N Neo4 Platinum" NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Chipset Motherboard For
>>> AMD Socket 939 CPU
>>>
>>> AMD Athlon 64 3500+, Socket 939, 512KB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor
>>>
>>> ZALMAN CPU Cooler for Socket 478/A/754/939/940 With FAN Speed
>>> Controller, Model "CNPS7700-Cu LED"
>>>
>>> ------
>>>
>>> Memory, Video, HD
>>>
>>> Corsair Value Select Memory 184 Pin 1GB DDR PC-3200, Model VS1GB400C3
>>> - Retail
>>>
>>> ASUS ATI RADEON X300 Video Card, 128MB DDR, 128-Bit, DVI/TV-Out, PCI
>>> Express, Model "EAX300/TD/128"
>>>
>>> Seagate 7200.8 200GB 7200RPM SATA NCQ Hard Drive, Model ST3200826AS, OEM
>>>
>>> ------
>>>
>>> The final cost is a little over US$1000. What other components have I
>>> left out?
>>>
>>> I have a few questions:
>>>
>>> I have always used ATI video cards. Does Asus make quality video
>>> cards? Analog output quality is my concern and I like that it doesn't
>>> have a fan.
>>
>>
>>
>> Asus make excellent graphics cards, but i think the Radeon X300 is
>> very low spec, you should try get something better such as an X600.
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] 516&depa=0
>>
>>
>>
>>> Is Corsair Value good when comparing to Cruical?
>>
>>
>>
>> Pretty much the same, shop around for the memory, if budget is a
>> concern you might go with Crucial or Kingston and maybe get better
>> memory for less cost.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Does Zalman CNPS7700-Cu fit the motherboard? Do I need to downgrade
>>> to 7000 and/or Al-Cu?
>>
>>
>>
>> Personally i'd go with a Thermalright XP-90, it will fit any
>> motherboard and excellent cooling. You're CPU is also good but do try
>> and get the Winchester version as it's cooler + overclocks better.
>>
>> http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/thxpforforin1.html
>>
>> This one is cheaper then Newegg + is retail with fan.
>>
>> What about a DVD burner?...NEC 3520 is the way to go.
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] 040&depa=0
>>
>>
>> Silver to go with your case :-)
>
>
>
> How about Abit X600?
>
> ABIT ATI RADEON X600 PRO Video Card, 256MB DDR, 128-Bit, DVI/HDTV-Out,
> PCI Express, Model "RX600PRO-HDTV"
>
> This one is reasonably priced. I don't know about the HDTV output
> thinggy. I am scared about having one more fan on the video card though.
> I want my computer to be quiet. I don't do games, but lots of Photoshop,
> video editing and the current AthlonXP can't run the new Gigastudio,
> thus this new athlon64 pc. I might learn some 3D graphics design so I
> guess a faster video is not a bad idea. I just worry about the noise level.
>
> BTW, the Corsair VALUE is the cheapest memory choice. This is why I am
> questioning about the quality.



I think I'll instead choose this video card:

MSI nVIDIA GeForce 6600GT Video Card, 128MB DDR3, 128-Bit, DVI/TV-Out,
PCI-Express, Model "NX6600GT-TD128E"

How does it compare to ATI X600?

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chris wrote:
> chris wrote:
>
>> Richard Dower wrote:
>>
>>> "chris" <someone@somewhere.net> wrote in message
>>> news:JppMd.8459$S3.7837@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>
>>>> Cas & Power Supply
>>>>
>>>> Cooler Master Praetorian SILVER ALUMINUM MID-TOWER CASE, Model
>>>> "PAC-T01-E1"
>>>>
>>>> Cooler Master Real Power 120mm fan 450W Power Supply With Active
>>>> PFC, Model "RS-450-ACLY"
>>>>
>>>> ------
>>>>
>>>> Motherboard, CPU and cooler
>>>>
>>>> MSI "K8N Neo4 Platinum" NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Chipset Motherboard For
>>>> AMD Socket 939 CPU
>>>>
>>>> AMD Athlon 64 3500+, Socket 939, 512KB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor
>>>>
>>>> ZALMAN CPU Cooler for Socket 478/A/754/939/940 With FAN Speed
>>>> Controller, Model "CNPS7700-Cu LED"
>>>>
>>>> ------
>>>>
>>>> Memory, Video, HD
>>>>
>>>> Corsair Value Select Memory 184 Pin 1GB DDR PC-3200, Model
>>>> VS1GB400C3 - Retail
>>>>
>>>> ASUS ATI RADEON X300 Video Card, 128MB DDR, 128-Bit, DVI/TV-Out, PCI
>>>> Express, Model "EAX300/TD/128"
>>>>
>>>> Seagate 7200.8 200GB 7200RPM SATA NCQ Hard Drive, Model ST3200826AS,
>>>> OEM
>>>>
>>>> ------
>>>>
>>>> The final cost is a little over US$1000. What other components have
>>>> I left out?
>>>>
>>>> I have a few questions:
>>>>
>>>> I have always used ATI video cards. Does Asus make quality video
>>>> cards? Analog output quality is my concern and I like that it
>>>> doesn't have a fan.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Asus make excellent graphics cards, but i think the Radeon X300 is
>>> very low spec, you should try get something better such as an X600.
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] 516&depa=0
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Is Corsair Value good when comparing to Cruical?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Pretty much the same, shop around for the memory, if budget is a
>>> concern you might go with Crucial or Kingston and maybe get better
>>> memory for less cost.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Does Zalman CNPS7700-Cu fit the motherboard? Do I need to downgrade
>>>> to 7000 and/or Al-Cu?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Personally i'd go with a Thermalright XP-90, it will fit any
>>> motherboard and excellent cooling. You're CPU is also good but do try
>>> and get the Winchester version as it's cooler + overclocks better.
>>>
>>> http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/thxpforforin1.html
>>>
>>> This one is cheaper then Newegg + is retail with fan.
>>>
>>> What about a DVD burner?...NEC 3520 is the way to go.
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] 040&depa=0
>>>
>>>
>>> Silver to go with your case :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> How about Abit X600?
>> ABIT ATI RADEON X600 PRO Video Card, 256MB DDR, 128-Bit,
>> DVI/HDTV-Out, PCI Express, Model "RX600PRO-HDTV"
>>
>> This one is reasonably priced. I don't know about the HDTV output
>> thinggy. I am scared about having one more fan on the video card
>> though. I want my computer to be quiet. I don't do games, but lots of
>> Photoshop, video editing and the current AthlonXP can't run the new
>> Gigastudio, thus this new athlon64 pc. I might learn some 3D graphics
>> design so I guess a faster video is not a bad idea. I just worry about
>> the noise level.
>>
>> BTW, the Corsair VALUE is the cheapest memory choice. This is why I am
>> questioning about the quality.
>
>
>
>
> I think I'll instead choose this video card:
>
> MSI nVIDIA GeForce 6600GT Video Card, 128MB DDR3, 128-Bit, DVI/TV-Out,
> PCI-Express, Model "NX6600GT-TD128E"
>
> How does it compare to ATI X600?

Check out hardocp.com and they will tell you all about the ATI cards vs
nVidia. If I remember correctly the 6600gt was a better performing card
than either ATI. It was a few beers back, but they have tested all that
you have mentioned.

S

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I would consider this memory if it will save you some money
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] 299&depa=0

The 7700 heatsink is larger than the 7000, I would definitely confirm that
the 7700 will fit on that board.

"chris" <someone@somewhere.net> wrote in message
news:JppMd.8459$S3.7837@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Cas & Power Supply
>
> Cooler Master Praetorian SILVER ALUMINUM MID-TOWER CASE, Model
"PAC-T01-E1"
>
> Cooler Master Real Power 120mm fan 450W Power Supply With Active PFC,
> Model "RS-450-ACLY"
>
> ------
>
> Motherboard, CPU and cooler
>
> MSI "K8N Neo4 Platinum" NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Chipset Motherboard For AMD
> Socket 939 CPU
>
> AMD Athlon 64 3500+, Socket 939, 512KB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor
>
> ZALMAN CPU Cooler for Socket 478/A/754/939/940 With FAN Speed
> Controller, Model "CNPS7700-Cu LED"
>
> ------
>
> Memory, Video, HD
>
> Corsair Value Select Memory 184 Pin 1GB DDR PC-3200, Model VS1GB400C3 -
> Retail
>
> ASUS ATI RADEON X300 Video Card, 128MB DDR, 128-Bit, DVI/TV-Out, PCI
> Express, Model "EAX300/TD/128"
>
> Seagate 7200.8 200GB 7200RPM SATA NCQ Hard Drive, Model ST3200826AS, OEM
>
> ------
>
> The final cost is a little over US$1000. What other components have I
> left out?
>
> I have a few questions:
>
> I have always used ATI video cards. Does Asus make quality video cards?
> Analog output quality is my concern and I like that it doesn't have a fan.
>
> Is Corsair Value good when comparing to Cruical?
>
> Does Zalman CNPS7700-Cu fit the motherboard? Do I need to downgrade to
> 7000 and/or Al-Cu?

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jacoby wrote:
> I would consider this memory if it will save you some money
> http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] 299&depa=0
>
> The 7700 heatsink is larger than the 7000, I would definitely confirm that
> the 7700 will fit on that board.
>
> "chris" <someone@somewhere.net> wrote in message
> news:JppMd.8459$S3.7837@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>
>>Cas & Power Supply
>>
>>Cooler Master Praetorian SILVER ALUMINUM MID-TOWER CASE, Model
>
> "PAC-T01-E1"
>
>>Cooler Master Real Power 120mm fan 450W Power Supply With Active PFC,
>>Model "RS-450-ACLY"
>>
>>------
>>
>>Motherboard, CPU and cooler
>>
>>MSI "K8N Neo4 Platinum" NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Chipset Motherboard For AMD
>>Socket 939 CPU
>>
>>AMD Athlon 64 3500+, Socket 939, 512KB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor
>>
>>ZALMAN CPU Cooler for Socket 478/A/754/939/940 With FAN Speed
>>Controller, Model "CNPS7700-Cu LED"
>>
>>------
>>
>>Memory, Video, HD
>>
>>Corsair Value Select Memory 184 Pin 1GB DDR PC-3200, Model VS1GB400C3 -
>>Retail
>>
>>ASUS ATI RADEON X300 Video Card, 128MB DDR, 128-Bit, DVI/TV-Out, PCI
>>Express, Model "EAX300/TD/128"
>>
>>Seagate 7200.8 200GB 7200RPM SATA NCQ Hard Drive, Model ST3200826AS, OEM
>>
>>------
>>
>>The final cost is a little over US$1000. What other components have I
>>left out?
>>
>>I have a few questions:
>>
>>I have always used ATI video cards. Does Asus make quality video cards?
>>Analog output quality is my concern and I like that it doesn't have a fan.
>>
>>Is Corsair Value good when comparing to Cruical?
>>
>>Does Zalman CNPS7700-Cu fit the motherboard? Do I need to downgrade to
>>7000 and/or Al-Cu?


Thank you for everyone's comments. I have changed the CPU to Athlon64
Winchester
AMD Athlon 64 3200+, 512KB L2 Cache, Socket 939 64-bit Processor

The Video card is
MSI nVIDIA GeForce 6600GT Video Card, 128MB DDR3, 128-Bit, DVI/TV-Out,
PCI-Express, Model "NX6600GT-TD128E"

I ended up ordered most of the stuffs from ZipZoomFly. I hope they are
good. I only ordered the case and a LG DVD-Multi drive (special today)
at Newegg.com. They are getting more expensive. I was also shy away from
the shipping charge where it's free in ZipZoomFly.