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I've been watching the swap file usage and available
physical memory with this tool.

The swap file uses close to 70M with little running. The
available memory with little running is 4M but drops to as
low as 100K when simply viewing Yahoo mail.

Does is sound like more memory might speed things up a bit
or is there something else I should look at?

Thanks in advance!

KB

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How much memory do you have and how much is being recognized by the system?
Heirloom, old and 256 is working for me

"KB" <KB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I've been watching the swap file usage and available
> physical memory with this tool.
>
> The swap file uses close to 70M with little running. The
> available memory with little running is 4M but drops to as
> low as 100K when simply viewing Yahoo mail.
>
> Does is sound like more memory might speed things up a bit
> or is there something else I should look at?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> KB

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I've gone through the process which you are now journeying. I have a
PIII, 700mhz as well. I went from 384meg to 512megs and couldn't tell
much difference. Swap file was still be used a lot. Went to 640megs
and no more swap file activity. Went to 768megs today - the most my
motherboard will recognize. Got 3 256meg chips off eBay as used chips
but good ones for $39 each plus shipping. Heck, my old 128meg chips
were 5 years old and working.
-------

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:11:29 -0700, "KB" <KB@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>Thanks for the feedback, Heirloom!
>
>My processor is 700MHz, PIII.
>
>I do realize that Windows will use as much memory as
>available. This was pointed out by one of the MVPs at one
>time and I gave up on the memory thing at that time. Hope
>none of the MVPs are watching this thread or I'll get
>slapped down, again <G>.
>
>After watching the system monitor, I do see that available
>memory goes to zero with nothing running other than a
>Spybot, Ad-Aware or AVG scan. Should it actually hit 0?
>
>Now, Process Explorer shows the highest ranking CPU
>gobbler as Idle (system idle process) @ ~90. None other
>above 5 and only three (Zone Alarm, Procexp, SGBHP) above
>one. CPU usage never seems to exceed 33%.
>
>Hmm, sounds like an additional 128M memory might help.
>Then again, if I'm going to add memory, I'm going for the
>gusto, which would be 512M total. Ok, unused memory is
>wasted memory but I'll see what the $ difference is. $20-
>$50 isn't going to cripple me and if the system is smooth,
>why not go for it.
>
>Thanks again, Heirloom. Hope you enjoyed your show!
>
>KB
>

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Do you watch that program *American Chopper* I think it's brilliant and
some of the bikes that come out of there that Paul Jnr. designs take
some imagination <g>
Joan

heirloom wrote:

> Heirloom, old and must go watch the choppers

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Yup, that's the show I was making reference to. The bikes are dreadfully
impractical for a long haul, but, neat to look at. I like my "Lazy Boy" on
wheels.
Heirloom, old and needs the padding


"Joan Archer" <joanarcher@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Do you watch that program *American Chopper* I think it's brilliant and
> some of the bikes that come out of there that Paul Jnr. designs take
> some imagination <g>
> Joan
>
> heirloom wrote:
>
> > Heirloom, old and must go watch the choppers

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Joan Archer wrote:
> Do you watch that program *American Chopper* I think it's brilliant and
> some of the bikes that come out of there that Paul Jnr. designs take
> some imagination <g>

Definitely... think my favorite (so far) is the Lincoln bike.


Rick


> Joan
>
> heirloom wrote:
>
>> Heirloom, old and must go watch the choppers

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<lol> I know what you mean, I don't suppose they would be comfortable to
ride for long, but great to look at.
Joan

heirloom wrote:
> Yup, that's the show I was making reference to. The bikes are dreadfully
> impractical for a long haul, but, neat to look at. I like my "Lazy Boy" on
> wheels.
> Heirloom, old and needs the padding
>

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Hi Rick, I don't watch it all the time but when I do I enjoy it, liked
the one with the Black Widow <g>
Joan

Rick T wrote:

>
>
> Definitely... think my favorite (so far) is the Lincoln bike.
>
>
> Rick

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Joan Archer wrote:
> Hi Rick, I don't watch it all the time but when I do I enjoy it, liked
> the one with the Black Widow <g>

tsk, it would be; typical wimmen.

> Joan
>
> Rick T wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Definitely... think my favorite (so far) is the Lincoln bike.
>>
>>
>> Rick

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My favorite hasn't been built yet..........that would be MINE, after I win
the lotto.
Heirloom, old and fat chance

"Rick T" <plinnane3REMOVE@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Joan Archer wrote:
> > Hi Rick, I don't watch it all the time but when I do I enjoy it, liked
> > the one with the Black Widow <g>
>
> tsk, it would be; typical wimmen.
>
> > Joan
> >
> > Rick T wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Definitely... think my favorite (so far) is the Lincoln bike.
> >>
> >>
> >> Rick

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heirloom wrote:
> My favorite hasn't been built yet..........that would be MINE, after I win
> the lotto.

heheheh, you too eh; I'd probably want something like Leno's bike (but
not a knockoff of whatever that one was)

Rick





> Heirloom, old and fat chance
>
> "Rick T" <plinnane3REMOVE@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:u1mmvFjOFHA.2620@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>
>>Joan Archer wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Rick, I don't watch it all the time but when I do I enjoy it, liked
>>>the one with the Black Widow <g>
>>
>>tsk, it would be; typical wimmen.
>>
>>
>>>Joan
>>>
>>>Rick T wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Definitely... think my favorite (so far) is the Lincoln bike.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Rick
>
>
>

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<lol> Trouble is I can't remember the names of the different ones I've
seen but as that was not long ago I remembered it <vbg>
Joan

Rick T wrote:

>
> tsk, it would be; typical wimmen.
>
>> Joan
>>
>> Rick T wrote:

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<lol> I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
Joan

heirloom wrote:
> My favorite hasn't been built yet..........that would be MINE, after I win
> the lotto.
> Heirloom, old and fat chance
>

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128 MB is quite anemic. Go for the 512 MB, or 768 MB if you can.

If several programs need RAM at the same time, the swap file ain't gonna help
you enough. Using the swap file slows down your machine, but don't discard its
availability.

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> Soryy KB, didn't know about Pac's Portal wanting $50!......

It doesn't.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP
mike.maltby@gmail.com


heirloom <heirloom@nospamatall.com> wrote:

> Soryy KB, didn't know about Pac's Portal wanting $50!......what was
> that for? You can get all the info you need from the other sites
> anyway. Haven't seen your BLA Slow Boot thread......be sure to filter
> it so that it only shows the 'delays.' It may shed some light on
> what is slowing you down. With regard to the memory, it couldn't
> hurt. I have only 256M on this old box and it boots rather quickly.
> Of course, I have it trimmed pretty lean, no eye candy, wallpaper or
> the like.
> Will be looking for your report.

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KB
I can't help wondering if you have some form of spyware still present on
your machine - Bluelight may be perfectly legitimate, but it has to get its
money from somewhere.

I'd run HiJackThis, and post the log to one of the specialist forums (fora?)
that deal in such things...

You should also consider whether you need the calendar updates in Works to
load - this has caused problems for others in the past (go into Options in
Works and turn off the Reminders)

WRT your memory - RAM at 128MB is quite sufficient for normal purposes, and
shouldn't be overloaded at startup. I'd sort out your current problem first,
and then see what the SwapFile in Use parameter reads in the System Monitor
under normal running, then decide on any need for an upgrade.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"KB" <KB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:192b01c53caf$f5c7e9f0$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> Well, now I feel much like a baffoon(sp?), again. I must
> have been referring to a link in the Pacs-Portal site as
> all I saw/see in the short list is not in my MSCONFIG
> startup list. I guess I expected more from the site/all
> items.
>
> Ok, so I hand typed my list in MSCONFIG as shown below.
> What can go?
>
> spc_w Registry (Per-User Run) C:\Program
> Files\BLSearch\hcm.exe"-w
> **BlueLight Internet Search**
>
> ScanRegistry Registry (Per-User Run)
> C:\WINDOWS\scanregw.exe/autorun
>
> SystemTray Registry (Per-User Run) SysTray.Exe
>
> NvCplDaemon Registry (Per-User Run) RUNDLL32.EXE
>
> NvQTwk,NvCpIDaemon initialize
> Load PowerProfile Registry (Per-User Run)Rundll32.exe
>
> powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
>
> TaskMonitor Registry (Per-User Run)C:\WINDOWS\taskmon.exe
>
> InstantAccess Registry (Per-User Run)C"\PROGRA~1\TEXTBR~1.0
> \BIN\INSTAN~1.EXE /h
> ***Needed for scanner***
>
> AVG7_CC Registry (Per-User Run) C:\PROGRA~1
> \GRISOFT\AVGFRE~AVGCC.EXE /STARTUP
>
> AVG7_EMC Registry (Per-User Run) C:\PROGRA~1
> \GRISOFT\AVGFRE~1\
>
> AVG7_AMSVR Registry (Per-User Run) C:\PROGRA~1
> \GRISOFT\AVGFRE~1\AVGAMSVR.EXE
>
> nwiz Registry (Per-User Run) nwiz.exe /install
>
> LexStart Registry (Per-User Run) Lexstart.exe
>
> LexmarkPrinTray Registry (Per-User Run) PrinTray.exe
>
> Zone Labs Client Registry (Per-User Run) "C:\Program
> Files\Zone Labs\ZoneAlarm zlclent.exe"
>
> LoadPowerProfile Registry (Per-User Run) Rundll32.exe
> powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
>
> *StateMgr Registry (Per-User Run)
> C:\WINDOWS\System\Restore\StateMgr.exe
>
> SchedulingAgent Registry (Per-User Run) mstask.exe
>
> TrueVector Registry (Per-User Run)
> C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ZONELABS\VSMON.EXE -service
>
> Description of shortcut Startup Group
> C:\WINDOWS\ApplicationData\Microsoft\Installer\{9944aa9e-
> 362d-11d3-81ab-00c04fb932ba)\1960F8A9.exe
> **This one comes back checked after reboot even if
> unchecked**
>
> Internet Answering Machine Starup Group C:\PROGRA~1
> \SPYWAR~2\SGMAIN.EXE
>
> SpywareGuard Startup Group C:\PROGRA~1SPYWAR~2\SGMAIN.EXE
>
> Please let me know what you think. Also, why is nobody
> answering my question regarding additional memory (I did
> see a post calling 128M anemic) and faster system tray
> loading? Will it help? Will it reduce lock ups?
>

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Hi, Noel.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

I tried turning off the calendar update as you suggested
but the only options available (through the toolbar) are
Audio-Play Sounds and History-Track History. No option to
turn off reminders. Maybe I can blast it with HJT.

Bluelight does get $9.99/month for their service. They
actually work through NetZero.

I really don't think there's spyware present.
AVG,ZoneAlarm,SpybotSD,Ad-
Aware,SpywareBlaster,SpywareGuard,CWShredder are always
running/run and updated daily. I even run online scans at
RAV and Trend every now and then. I suppose it wouldn't
hurt to post a log at HJT just to be sure.

Swapfileusage is currently at 53M, available memory at
360K. I have Microsoft Works, three internet explorer
windows and system monitor open. That's all.

Thanks again, Noel. I'll let the folks at HJT know you
sent me .

KB
>-----Original Message-----
>KB
>I can't help wondering if you have some form of spyware
still present on
>your machine - Bluelight may be perfectly legitimate, but
it has to get its
>money from somewhere.
>
>I'd run HiJackThis, and post the log to one of the
specialist forums (fora?)
>that deal in such things...
>
>You should also consider whether you need the calendar
updates in Works to
>load - this has caused problems for others in the past
(go into Options in
>Works and turn off the Reminders)
>
>WRT your memory - RAM at 128MB is quite sufficient for
normal purposes, and
>shouldn't be overloaded at startup. I'd sort out your
current problem first,
>and then see what the SwapFile in Use parameter reads in
the System Monitor
>under normal running, then decide on any need for an
upgrade.
>
>--
>Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
>
>Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>
>Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post
messages to NG's
>
>"KB" <KB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>news:192b01c53caf$f5c7e9f0$a601280a@phx.gbl...
>> Well, now I feel much like a baffoon(sp?), again. I
must
>> have been referring to a link in the Pacs-Portal site as
>> all I saw/see in the short list is not in my MSCONFIG
>> startup list. I guess I expected more from the site/all
>> items.
>>
>> Ok, so I hand typed my list in MSCONFIG as shown below.
>> What can go?
>>
>> spc_w Registry (Per-User Run) C:\Program
>> Files\BLSearch\hcm.exe"-w
>> **BlueLight Internet Search**
>>
>> ScanRegistry Registry (Per-User Run)
>> C:\WINDOWS\scanregw.exe/autorun
>>
>> SystemTray Registry (Per-User Run) SysTray.Exe
>>
>> NvCplDaemon Registry (Per-User Run) RUNDLL32.EXE
>>
>> NvQTwk,NvCpIDaemon initialize
>> Load PowerProfile Registry (Per-User Run)Rundll32.exe
>>
>> powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
>>
>> TaskMonitor Registry (Per-User Run)
C:\WINDOWS\taskmon.exe
>>
>> InstantAccess Registry (Per-User Run)C"\PROGRA~1
\TEXTBR~1.0
>> \BIN\INSTAN~1.EXE /h
>> ***Needed for scanner***
>>
>> AVG7_CC Registry (Per-User Run) C:\PROGRA~1
>> \GRISOFT\AVGFRE~AVGCC.EXE /STARTUP
>>
>> AVG7_EMC Registry (Per-User Run) C:\PROGRA~1
>> \GRISOFT\AVGFRE~1\
>>
>> AVG7_AMSVR Registry (Per-User Run) C:\PROGRA~1
>> \GRISOFT\AVGFRE~1\AVGAMSVR.EXE
>>
>> nwiz Registry (Per-User Run) nwiz.exe /install
>>
>> LexStart Registry (Per-User Run) Lexstart.exe
>>
>> LexmarkPrinTray Registry (Per-User Run) PrinTray.exe
>>
>> Zone Labs Client Registry (Per-User Run) "C:\Program
>> Files\Zone Labs\ZoneAlarm zlclent.exe"
>>
>> LoadPowerProfile Registry (Per-User Run) Rundll32.exe
>> powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
>>
>> *StateMgr Registry (Per-User Run)
>> C:\WINDOWS\System\Restore\StateMgr.exe
>>
>> SchedulingAgent Registry (Per-User Run) mstask.exe
>>
>> TrueVector Registry (Per-User Run)
>> C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ZONELABS\VSMON.EXE -service
>>
>> Description of shortcut Startup Group
>>
C:\WINDOWS\ApplicationData\Microsoft\Installer\{9944aa9e-
>> 362d-11d3-81ab-00c04fb932ba)\1960F8A9.exe
>> **This one comes back checked after reboot even if
>> unchecked**
>>
>> Internet Answering Machine Starup Group C:\PROGRA~1
>> \SPYWAR~2\SGMAIN.EXE
>>
>> SpywareGuard Startup Group C:\PROGRA~1SPYWAR~2
\SGMAIN.EXE
>>
>> Please let me know what you think. Also, why is nobody
>> answering my question regarding additional memory (I did
>> see a post calling 128M anemic) and faster system tray
>> loading? Will it help? Will it reduce lock ups?
>>
>
>
>.
>

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Hi, Noel.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

I tried turning off the calendar update as you suggested
but the only options available (through the toolbar) are
Audio-Play Sounds and History-Track History. No option to
turn off reminders. Maybe I can blast it with HJT.

Bluelight does get $9.99/month for their service. They
actually work through NetZero.

I really don't think there's spyware present.
AVG,ZoneAlarm,SpybotSD,Ad-
Aware,SpywareBlaster,SpywareGuard,CWShredder are always
running/run and updated daily. I even run online scans at
RAV and Trend every now and then. I suppose it wouldn't
hurt to post a log at HJT just to be sure.

Swapfileusage is currently at 53M, available memory at
360K. I have Microsoft Works, three internet explorer
windows and system monitor open. That's all.

Thanks again, Noel. I'll let the folks at HJT know you
sent me .

KB

>-----Original Message-----
>KB
>I can't help wondering if you have some form of spyware
still present on
>your machine - Bluelight may be perfectly legitimate, but
it has to get its
>money from somewhere.
>
>I'd run HiJackThis, and post the log to one of the
specialist forums (fora?)
>that deal in such things...
>
>You should also consider whether you need the calendar
updates in Works to
>load - this has caused problems for others in the past
(go into Options in
>Works and turn off the Reminders)
>
>WRT your memory - RAM at 128MB is quite sufficient for
normal purposes, and
>shouldn't be overloaded at startup. I'd sort out your
current problem first,
>and then see what the SwapFile in Use parameter reads in
the System Monitor
>under normal running, then decide on any need for an
upgrade.
>
>--
>Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
>
>Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>
>Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post
messages to NG's
>
>"KB" <KB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>news:192b01c53caf$f5c7e9f0$a601280a@phx.gbl...
>> Well, now I feel much like a baffoon(sp?), again. I
must
>> have been referring to a link in the Pacs-Portal site as
>> all I saw/see in the short list is not in my MSCONFIG
>> startup list. I guess I expected more from the site/all
>> items.
>>
>> Ok, so I hand typed my list in MSCONFIG as shown below.
>> What can go?
>>
>> spc_w Registry (Per-User Run) C:\Program
>> Files\BLSearch\hcm.exe"-w
>> **BlueLight Internet Search**
>>
>> ScanRegistry Registry (Per-User Run)
>> C:\WINDOWS\scanregw.exe/autorun
>>
>> SystemTray Registry (Per-User Run) SysTray.Exe
>>
>> NvCplDaemon Registry (Per-User Run) RUNDLL32.EXE
>>
>> NvQTwk,NvCpIDaemon initialize
>> Load PowerProfile Registry (Per-User Run)Rundll32.exe
>>
>> powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
>>
>> TaskMonitor Registry (Per-User Run)
C:\WINDOWS\taskmon.exe
>>
>> InstantAccess Registry (Per-User Run)C"\PROGRA~1
\TEXTBR~1.0
>> \BIN\INSTAN~1.EXE /h
>> ***Needed for scanner***
>>
>> AVG7_CC Registry (Per-User Run) C:\PROGRA~1
>> \GRISOFT\AVGFRE~AVGCC.EXE /STARTUP
>>
>> AVG7_EMC Registry (Per-User Run) C:\PROGRA~1
>> \GRISOFT\AVGFRE~1\
>>
>> AVG7_AMSVR Registry (Per-User Run) C:\PROGRA~1
>> \GRISOFT\AVGFRE~1\AVGAMSVR.EXE
>>
>> nwiz Registry (Per-User Run) nwiz.exe /install
>>
>> LexStart Registry (Per-User Run) Lexstart.exe
>&