Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless (More info?)

I, like many folks these days, have a setup where a Linksys wireless router
is being used for LAN with a wireless laptop and a wired desktop. The
reason I started looking at this was because moving files from the desktop
to the laptop was very slow it seemed. I have done some research and was
wondering if anyone would know if there was a problem and what might be
causing it.

Both computers using WinXP Pro SP2
Dell Laptop with Intel 2100 MiniPC wireless adaptor
Desktop has Intel motherboard with built in adaptor.

Since the results are different depending which way I go, I will give the
information when going from the laptop to the desktop and vice versa.

Wireless Laptop to wired Desktop---
Ping 8-12 ms
Tracert: 1 3ms 3ms 3ms

Wired Desktop to Wireless Laptop---
Ping 45-297ms Avg 183ms
Tracert: 1 263ms 3ms 4ms
(First number varies all over, as does the ping results)

It seems to me that the packets are getting caught in some loop or perhaps
some type of checking is going on.

I ran these tests with and without firewalls and WEP on. When I hardwired
the Laptop the results were 1ms pings, which would lead me to believe it is
a wireless reception problem by the laptop, but I don't really understand
the tracert command.

If it would help any, when I ping 4 packets, there is always one that shows
around 15ms but the rest are much higher.

Thanks for any guidance,
Clark

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless (More info?)

Can you check the power management setting of wireless card on your laptop?
If power management is enabled, the ping from desktop to laptop would be
slow but the other direction would be OK.

"Clark" <who@whoknows.com> wrote in message
news:w4Nke.2168$TJ2.889@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
> I, like many folks these days, have a setup where a Linksys wireless
> router is being used for LAN with a wireless laptop and a wired desktop.
> The reason I started looking at this was because moving files from the
> desktop to the laptop was very slow it seemed. I have done some research
> and was wondering if anyone would know if there was a problem and what
> might be causing it.
>
> Both computers using WinXP Pro SP2
> Dell Laptop with Intel 2100 MiniPC wireless adaptor
> Desktop has Intel motherboard with built in adaptor.
>
> Since the results are different depending which way I go, I will give the
> information when going from the laptop to the desktop and vice versa.
>
> Wireless Laptop to wired Desktop---
> Ping 8-12 ms
> Tracert: 1 3ms 3ms 3ms
>
> Wired Desktop to Wireless Laptop---
> Ping 45-297ms Avg 183ms
> Tracert: 1 263ms 3ms 4ms
> (First number varies all over, as does the ping results)
>
> It seems to me that the packets are getting caught in some loop or perhaps
> some type of checking is going on.
>
> I ran these tests with and without firewalls and WEP on. When I hardwired
> the Laptop the results were 1ms pings, which would lead me to believe it
> is a wireless reception problem by the laptop, but I don't really
> understand the tracert command.
>
> If it would help any, when I ping 4 packets, there is always one that
> shows around 15ms but the rest are much higher.
>
> Thanks for any guidance,
> Clark
>
>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless (More info?)

Hi
You might want to actually measure the speed of File transfer.
Frame of reference here: http://www.ezlan.net/net_speed.html
Jack (MVP-Networking).



"Zhong Deng [MSFT]" <zdeng@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
newss8aKoLYFHA.3184@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Can you check the power management setting of wireless card on your laptop?
> If power management is enabled, the ping from desktop to laptop would be
> slow but the other direction would be OK.
>
> "Clark" <who@whoknows.com> wrote in message
> news:w4Nke.2168$TJ2.889@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
> > I, like many folks these days, have a setup where a Linksys wireless
> > router is being used for LAN with a wireless laptop and a wired desktop.
> > The reason I started looking at this was because moving files from the
> > desktop to the laptop was very slow it seemed. I have done some research
> > and was wondering if anyone would know if there was a problem and what
> > might be causing it.
> >
> > Both computers using WinXP Pro SP2
> > Dell Laptop with Intel 2100 MiniPC wireless adaptor
> > Desktop has Intel motherboard with built in adaptor.
> >
> > Since the results are different depending which way I go, I will give the
> > information when going from the laptop to the desktop and vice versa.
> >
> > Wireless Laptop to wired Desktop---
> > Ping 8-12 ms
> > Tracert: 1 3ms 3ms 3ms
> >
> > Wired Desktop to Wireless Laptop---
> > Ping 45-297ms Avg 183ms
> > Tracert: 1 263ms 3ms 4ms
> > (First number varies all over, as does the ping results)
> >
> > It seems to me that the packets are getting caught in some loop or perhaps
> > some type of checking is going on.
> >
> > I ran these tests with and without firewalls and WEP on. When I hardwired
> > the Laptop the results were 1ms pings, which would lead me to believe it
> > is a wireless reception problem by the laptop, but I don't really
> > understand the tracert command.
> >
> > If it would help any, when I ping 4 packets, there is always one that
> > shows around 15ms but the rest are much higher.
> >
> > Thanks for any guidance,
> > Clark
> >
> >
>
>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless (More info?)

Well, I have been working on this thing all day. I have taken the wireless
Intel adapter out and reinstalled everything using the latest drivers from
Dell. None of that seemed to do any good. I finally went to the Intel site
and found a driver and controller for the unit and installed that. The
latest ping was in the 4-5 ms range, which is where I expected it to be.

I checked the power setting and it was set at max performance. I did not
actually check the speed, but if I could ping this new laptop and get and
230ms return and then ping an old Compaq with a linksys WPC11 Wireless card
and get 4-5 ms, I knew something wasn't right with Intel Pro/Wireless LAN
2100 3A Mini PC Adapter.

I may have had some setting wrong, or maybe there were too many controllers
on the card, but I will go with the Intel drivers solving the problem. I
will try moving some files tomorrow, but hopefully it won't take me 10
minutes to move a few mp3 files.

Thanks,
Clark


"Jack (MVP)" <Jack(MVP)@discussions.microsoft.com.> wrote in message
news:%23mxF1%23LYFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hi
> You might want to actually measure the speed of File transfer.
> Frame of reference here: http://www.ezlan.net/net_speed.html
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
>
>
> "Zhong Deng [MSFT]" <zdeng@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> newss8aKoLYFHA.3184@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Can you check the power management setting of wireless card on your
>> laptop?
>> If power management is enabled, the ping from desktop to laptop would be
>> slow but the other direction would be OK.
>>
>> "Clark" <who@whoknows.com> wrote in message
>> news:w4Nke.2168$TJ2.889@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
>> > I, like many folks these days, have a setup where a Linksys wireless
>> > router is being used for LAN with a wireless laptop and a wired
>> > desktop.
>> > The reason I started looking at this was because moving files from the
>> > desktop to the laptop was very slow it seemed. I have done some
>> > research
>> > and was wondering if anyone would know if there was a problem and what
>> > might be causing it.
>> >
>> > Both computers using WinXP Pro SP2
>> > Dell Laptop with Intel 2100 MiniPC wireless adaptor
>> > Desktop has Intel motherboard with built in adaptor.
>> >
>> > Since the results are different depending which way I go, I will give
>> > the
>> > information when going from the laptop to the desktop and vice versa.
>> >
>> > Wireless Laptop to wired Desktop---
>> > Ping 8-12 ms
>> > Tracert: 1 3ms 3ms 3ms
>> >
>> > Wired Desktop to Wireless Laptop---
>> > Ping 45-297ms Avg 183ms
>> > Tracert: 1 263ms 3ms 4ms
>> > (First number varies all over, as does the ping results)
>> >
>> > It seems to me that the packets are getting caught in some loop or
>> > perhaps
>> > some type of checking is going on.
>> >
>> > I ran these tests with and without firewalls and WEP on. When I
>> > hardwired
>> > the Laptop the results were 1ms pings, which would lead me to believe
>> > it
>> > is a wireless reception problem by the laptop, but I don't really
>> > understand the tracert command.
>> >
>> > If it would help any, when I ping 4 packets, there is always one that
>> > shows around 15ms but the rest are much higher.
>> >
>> > Thanks for any guidance,
>> > Clark
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless (More info?)

"Clark" wrote:
> Well, I have been working on this thing all day. I have taken the wireless
> Intel adapter out and reinstalled everything using the latest drivers from
> Dell. None of that seemed to do any good. I finally went to the Intel site
> and found a driver and controller for the unit and installed that.

This is not good... The drivers on Intel site are generic.
They create custom versions for Dell and other PC makers, that
use special features of the machine - including power management.
If you believe that the custom Dell version is flawed, try to solve this
issue with Dell and Intel support.

Regards,
--PA

> The
> latest ping was in the 4-5 ms range, which is where I expected it to be.
>
> I checked the power setting and it was set at max performance. I did not
> actually check the speed, but if I could ping this new laptop and get and
> 230ms return and then ping an old Compaq with a linksys WPC11 Wireless card
> and get 4-5 ms, I knew something wasn't right with Intel Pro/Wireless LAN
> 2100 3A Mini PC Adapter.
>
> I may have had some setting wrong, or maybe there were too many controllers
> on the card, but I will go with the Intel drivers solving the problem. I
> will try moving some files tomorrow, but hopefully it won't take me 10
> minutes to move a few mp3 files.
>
> Thanks,
> Clark
>
>
> "Jack (MVP)" <Jack(MVP)@discussions.microsoft.com.> wrote in message
> news:%23mxF1%23LYFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Hi
> > You might want to actually measure the speed of File transfer.
> > Frame of reference here: http://www.ezlan.net/net_speed.html
> > Jack (MVP-Networking).
> >
> >
> >
> > "Zhong Deng [MSFT]" <zdeng@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > newss8aKoLYFHA.3184@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> >> Can you check the power management setting of wireless card on your
> >> laptop?
> >> If power management is enabled, the ping from desktop to laptop would be
> >> slow but the other direction would be OK.
> >>
> >> "Clark" <who@whoknows.com> wrote in message
> >> news:w4Nke.2168$TJ2.889@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
> >> > I, like many folks these days, have a setup where a Linksys wireless
> >> > router is being used for LAN with a wireless laptop and a wired
> >> > desktop.
> >> > The reason I started looking at this was because moving files from the
> >> > desktop to the laptop was very slow it seemed. I have done some
> >> > research
> >> > and was wondering if anyone would know if there was a problem and what
> >> > might be causing it.
> >> >
> >> > Both computers using WinXP Pro SP2
> >> > Dell Laptop with Intel 2100 MiniPC wireless adaptor
> >> > Desktop has Intel motherboard with built in adaptor.
> >> >
> >> > Since the results are different depending which way I go, I will give
> >> > the
> >> > information when going from the laptop to the desktop and vice versa.
> >> >
> >> > Wireless Laptop to wired Desktop---
> >> > Ping 8-12 ms
> >> > Tracert: 1 3ms 3ms 3ms
> >> >
> >> > Wired Desktop to Wireless Laptop---
> >> > Ping 45-297ms Avg 183ms
> >> > Tracert: 1 263ms 3ms 4ms
> >> > (First number varies all over, as does the ping results)
> >> >
> >> > It seems to me that the packets are getting caught in some loop or
> >> > perhaps
> >> > some type of checking is going on.
> >> >
> >> > I ran these tests with and without firewalls and WEP on. When I
> >> > hardwired
> >> > the Laptop the results were 1ms pings, which would lead me to believe
> >> > it
> >> > is a wireless reception problem by the laptop, but I don't really
> >> > understand the tracert command.
> >> >
> >> > If it would help any, when I ping 4 packets, there is always one that
> >> > shows around 15ms but the rest are much higher.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for any guidance,
> >> > Clark
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>