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Hi,

I've got a Dell Dimension 4550, 533 FSB with 512 ram. I was looking to put
another stick of 512 in around December 2003, but put it off until now.

I usually go to Crucial, because I've never had a problem with them. In
December, the price was $87, it's now $120, which is higher than even
yesterday.

I don't follow memory prices. Is there any other place I might look?

Here's what I need at Crucial:

http://tinyurl.com/38clp

Thanks,
Bruce

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Bruce wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've got a Dell Dimension 4550, 533 FSB with 512 ram. I was looking to put
> another stick of 512 in around December 2003, but put it off until now.
>
> I usually go to Crucial, because I've never had a problem with them. In
> December, the price was $87, it's now $120, which is higher than even
> yesterday.
>
> I don't follow memory prices. Is there any other place I might look?
>
> Here's what I need at Crucial:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/38clp
>
> Thanks,
> Bruce
As soon as OIL prices fall, so will memory prices! Unless someone
invents areplacement for plastic, petroleum extracts...

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Memory prices have been down the past two years, and the deals you could get
then are gone. I work at Micron. We produce the memory for Crucial and I
can tell you the only place memory prices will go from here is up. So goes
for Infineon, Hynix, and all others.

As stated earlier memory prices are like oil.

I like to build computers too, and boy I am not liking the higher prices
either, but, I don't set them, I just work there.

Alan in Boise.
"Patrick" <pberry26@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Bruce wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've got a Dell Dimension 4550, 533 FSB with 512 ram. I was looking to
put
> > another stick of 512 in around December 2003, but put it off until now.
> >
> > I usually go to Crucial, because I've never had a problem with them. In
> > December, the price was $87, it's now $120, which is higher than even
> > yesterday.
> >
> > I don't follow memory prices. Is there any other place I might look?
> >
> > Here's what I need at Crucial:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/38clp
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bruce
> As soon as OIL prices fall, so will memory prices! Unless someone
> invents areplacement for plastic, petroleum extracts...
>

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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:45:35 +0000 (UTC), Bruce <parcxman@netscape.net>
wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I've got a Dell Dimension 4550, 533 FSB with 512 ram. I was looking to put
>another stick of 512 in around December 2003, but put it off until now.
>
>I usually go to Crucial, because I've never had a problem with them. In
>December, the price was $87, it's now $120, which is higher than even
>yesterday.
>
>I don't follow memory prices. Is there any other place I might look?
>
>Here's what I need at Crucial:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/38clp
>
>Thanks,
>Bruce

Newegg
http://www.newegg.com/app/SearchPr [...] asp?DEPA=0

regards

Dud
--

If we are what we eat. I'm cheap, fast, and easy.

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Patrick <pberry26@yahoo.com> wrote in
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> Bruce wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've got a Dell Dimension 4550, 533 FSB with 512 ram. I was looking
>> to put another stick of 512 in around December 2003, but put it off
>> until now.
>>
>> I usually go to Crucial, because I've never had a problem with them.
>> In December, the price was $87, it's now $120, which is higher than
>> even yesterday.
>>
>> I don't follow memory prices. Is there any other place I might look?
>>
>> Here's what I need at Crucial:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/38clp
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bruce
> As soon as OIL prices fall, so will memory prices! Unless someone
> invents areplacement for plastic, petroleum extracts...
>

Well, yes, memory prices are like oil. Both are commodities. But it's
not the price of plastic that has caused the price of the memory to rise
by $33. Please, there just ain't that much plastic in a stick of memory.

Bruce

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On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 07:35:27 -0600, "Alan W. Blackmon"
<awblackmon@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Memory prices have been down the past two years, and the deals you could get
>then are gone. I work at Micron. We produce the memory for Crucial and I
>can tell you the only place memory prices will go from here is up. So goes
>for Infineon, Hynix, and all others.
>
>As stated earlier memory prices are like oil.
>
>I like to build computers too, and boy I am not liking the higher prices
>either, but, I don't set them, I just work there.
>

The way i understand it, the price is simply up because Micron (and
others) can't produce it fast enough to meet OEM demand. OEMs have
switched to higher levels of memory per system and it's just taking a
while for the industry to catch up, combined with a shift to some flash
production... has nothing to do with oil except that they're both
commodities.

Memory prices cannot "only.... go up from here". The truth is that
density is going to do the same as it always has, eventually making 512MB
modules nearer a price parity to yesterdays/todays 256MB modules. If
Micron doesn't see it that way then Samsung will likely make up the slack.
Although we are currently in a dramatic price fluctuation, it is only
that, another fluctuation... the industry simply won't bear ~$60 for
256MB indefinitely, except after DDR2 is predominant.

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>>>>> "kony" == kony <spam@spam.com> writes:

kony> The way i understand it, the price is simply up because Micron (and
kony> others) can't produce it fast enough to meet OEM demand. OEMs have
kony> switched to higher levels of memory per system and it's just taking a
kony> while for the industry to catch up, combined with a shift to some
kony> flash production... has nothing to do with oil except that they're
kony> both commodities.

There was an article at Silicon Strategies (http://www.siliconstrategies.com;
you need to register) (I read it yesterday, it might be a couple of days old)
that said that memory prices were up, since there was some _hope_ for OEM
demand. Since there was not that much extra demand, the prices are coming
down.

--
Arto V. Viitanen av@cs.uta.fi
University of Tampere, Department of Computer Sciences
Tampere, Finland http://www.cs.uta.fi/~av/

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"Arto Viitanen" <av@cs.uta.fi> wrote in message
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> >>>>> "kony" == kony <spam@spam.com> writes:
>
> kony> The way i understand it, the price is simply up because Micron (and
> kony> others) can't produce it fast enough to meet OEM demand. OEMs have
> kony> switched to higher levels of memory per system and it's just taking
a
> kony> while for the industry to catch up, combined with a shift to some
> kony> flash production... has nothing to do with oil except that they're
> kony> both commodities.
>
> There was an article at Silicon Strategies
(http://www.siliconstrategies.com;
> you need to register) (I read it yesterday, it might be a couple of days
old)
> that said that memory prices were up, since there was some _hope_ for OEM
> demand. Since there was not that much extra demand, the prices are coming
> down.

Try Pricewath.com $84 for 512MB PC2100

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On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:17:58 GMT, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:

>>Memory prices have been down the past two years, and the deals you could get
>>then are gone. I work at Micron. We produce the memory for Crucial and I
>>can tell you the only place memory prices will go from here is up. So goes
>>for Infineon, Hynix, and all others.


Doesn't quite wash forme, as I understand Crucial IS Micron. Micron
makes the chips, Crucial makes modules and markets them.

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On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:47:47 GMT, "William W. Plummer"
<William.PlummerXNOSPAMX@alum.mit.edu> wrote:


>> There was an article at Silicon Strategies
>(http://www.siliconstrategies.com;
>> you need to register) (I read it yesterday, it might be a couple of days
>old)
>> that said that memory prices were up, since there was some _hope_ for OEM
>> demand. Since there was not that much extra demand, the prices are coming
>> down.
>
>Try Pricewath.com $84 for 512MB PC2100
>

Who wants PC2100 or generic memory from pricewatch though?

<rant>
Of all vendors I've dealt with the price-leaders on pricewatch seem the
lowest of the low. For example: order a module, don't get what you
ordered, vendor seldom answers phone and when they do, "system is down"
or "person handling this not here". They deny they sent the wrong part
and will charge retesting fee and restock fee even though it's CLEARLY not
the right part, they had to know after the last few hundred people were
complaining. So your recourse is to complain to resellerratings and other
agencies but the vendor just changes business name soon, as they already
had 2+ business names already just to deal with this hit-and-run tactic
they use for fraud.
</rant>

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> As soon as OIL prices fall, so will memory prices! Unless someone
> invents areplacement for plastic, petroleum extracts...

?

Most memory chips use minimal amounts of plastic, and the trend
is to BGA, MCM with absolute minimal packaging. That has some
issues re thermal distribution/density, but that's more DDR2-667Mhz.

One plastic that doesn't use oil is polypropylene.
Unfortunately, it is not like ABS - re acceptable consumer products,
a pain in the bum to get things to stick to it, and scratches somewhat
more easily in leathergrain/pinseal embossed finish v same in ABS.

Oil is as much China demand as Iraq, if the West slows then the
current stimulus approaches boosted China about 2-4:1 v West.
Also true of debt-expansion in West vs realised-Western growth.

Memory was somewhat overly depressed in price, and we are a
very long way away from the PC environment of 1993-94 when
16MB of 72-pin EDO 60ns was £520 delivered (900$US). That
was even more acute because with Windows, that was a struggle.
Even XP-Pro is acceptable with 256MB - cost is about 10x less.


Conversely, rising oil prices might provide a brake which neither
the Fed (Greenspan) nor LT Bond Rates need exert - because if
either of the /latter/ do then the debt-expansion/housing/spend pops.
--
Dorothy Bradbury
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