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"E2E t-bot BT" <English-to-English.translator.bot@Babel.Fish>
wrote:

> I am still using a corded mouse (logitech wheelmouse).
>
> I would like to get a better mouse which has at least as good
> precision, responsiveness, accuracy, etc.
>
> Would an optical mouse be better on all counts?
>
> What about a cordless mouse. Are they poor performers? What
> about a Bluetooth connection - is that good. Is it pricey.
>
> Are there any web sites which discuss this. Google is no help
> to me.


Assuming both are cord-attached then is an optical mouse is
inherently better than a non-optical mouse?

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On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 23:02:38 +0100, Piotr Makley <pmakley@mail.com> wrote:

>"E2E t-bot BT" <English-to-English.translator.bot@Babel.Fish>
>wrote:
>
>> I am still using a corded mouse (logitech wheelmouse).
>>
>> I would like to get a better mouse which has at least as good
>> precision, responsiveness, accuracy, etc.
>>
>> Would an optical mouse be better on all counts?
>>
>> What about a cordless mouse. Are they poor performers? What
>> about a Bluetooth connection - is that good. Is it pricey.
>>
>> Are there any web sites which discuss this. Google is no help
>> to me.
>
>
>Assuming both are cord-attached then is an optical mouse is
>inherently better than a non-optical mouse?

....like INFINITELY better. o_O

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The big difference is that an optical mouse has no roller ball, hence it
doesn't require a mouse pad, can be used on virtually any solid surface and
there are no maintenance problems such as grime clogging the roller ball
thus requiring it to periodically be cleaned.

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"Piotr Makley" <pmakley@mail.com> wrote in message
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> "E2E t-bot BT" <English-to-English.translator.bot@Babel.Fish>
> wrote:
>
>> I am still using a corded mouse (logitech wheelmouse).
>>
>> I would like to get a better mouse which has at least as good
>> precision, responsiveness, accuracy, etc.
>>
>> Would an optical mouse be better on all counts?
>>
>> What about a cordless mouse. Are they poor performers? What
>> about a Bluetooth connection - is that good. Is it pricey.
>>
>> Are there any web sites which discuss this. Google is no help
>> to me.
>
>
> Assuming both are cord-attached then is an optical mouse is
> inherently better than a non-optical mouse?

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I would prefer optical with a USB wire. I might have a
wireless as a second device.

I al;so like trackballs. The trackball does need to be
cleaned because dust, lint and even dead skin cells do get
in the ball socket. A standard optical mouse is
self-cleaning since the base is flat. They work on any
surface except polished metal and mirrors.


"Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/User)"
<user@#notme.com> wrote in message
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| The big difference is that an optical mouse has no roller
ball, hence it
| doesn't require a mouse pad, can be used on virtually any
solid surface and
| there are no maintenance problems such as grime clogging
the roller ball
| thus requiring it to periodically be cleaned.
|
| --
| Michael Solomon MS-MVP
| Windows Shell/User
| Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
| DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
|
| "Piotr Makley" <pmakley@mail.com> wrote in message
| news:94C6EA6A6FDAA31E75@130.133.1.4...
| > "E2E t-bot BT"
<English-to-English.translator.bot@Babel.Fish>
| > wrote:
| >
| >> I am still using a corded mouse (logitech wheelmouse).
| >>
| >> I would like to get a better mouse which has at least
as good
| >> precision, responsiveness, accuracy, etc.
| >>
| >> Would an optical mouse be better on all counts?
| >>
| >> What about a cordless mouse. Are they poor performers?
What
| >> about a Bluetooth connection - is that good. Is it
pricey.
| >>
| >> Are there any web sites which discuss this. Google is
no help
| >> to me.
| >
| >
| > Assuming both are cord-attached then is an optical mouse
is
| > inherently better than a non-optical mouse?
|
|

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> >
> >
> >Assuming both are cord-attached then is an optical mouse is
> >inherently better than a non-optical mouse?
>
> ...like INFINITELY better. o_O
>

Way over-simplified. It depends on how you use it. If you are only running
office apps. on a desktop computer and have a decent (non-reflective) mouse
pad, then it's hard to beat an optical mouse. For a notebook, you want a
mechanical mouse (the kind with a mouse ball). That's because optical mice
don't work too well on many surfaces you will find in motel rooms, and it's
inconvenient to have to carry a mouse pad with a notebook computer. Also,
optical mice (all brands) get a bit jumpy on quick movement. If you are a
gamer, you might want to stick with the ball. -Dave

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Optical mice work great on my blue jeans or my bare leg.

Haven't tried my gut.


"Dave C." <spammersdie@ahorribledeath.now> wrote in message
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| > >
| > >
| > >Assuming both are cord-attached then is an optical
mouse is
| > >inherently better than a non-optical mouse?
| >
| > ...like INFINITELY better. o_O
| >
|
| Way over-simplified. It depends on how you use it. If
you are only running
| office apps. on a desktop computer and have a decent
(non-reflective) mouse
| pad, then it's hard to beat an optical mouse. For a
notebook, you want a
| mechanical mouse (the kind with a mouse ball). That's
because optical mice
| don't work too well on many surfaces you will find in
motel rooms, and it's
| inconvenient to have to carry a mouse pad with a notebook
computer. Also,
| optical mice (all brands) get a bit jumpy on quick
movement. If you are a
| gamer, you might want to stick with the ball. -Dave
|
|
|

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My uncle uses a trackball, it drives me nuts!<VBG> Whenever he asks me to
figure out some issue he's having that darn trackball just gets in the way.
In the future, I'm bringing my own mouse!

--
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Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
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"Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
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>I would prefer optical with a USB wire. I might have a
> wireless as a second device.
>
> I al;so like trackballs. The trackball does need to be
> cleaned because dust, lint and even dead skin cells do get
> in the ball socket. A standard optical mouse is
> self-cleaning since the base is flat. They work on any
> surface except polished metal and mirrors.
>
>
> "Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/User)"
> <user@#notme.com> wrote in message
> news:%23GD7VHoHEHA.4088@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> | The big difference is that an optical mouse has no roller
> ball, hence it
> | doesn't require a mouse pad, can be used on virtually any
> solid surface and
> | there are no maintenance problems such as grime clogging
> the roller ball
> | thus requiring it to periodically be cleaned.
> |
> | --
> | Michael Solomon MS-MVP
> | Windows Shell/User
> | Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
> | DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
> |
> | "Piotr Makley" <pmakley@mail.com> wrote in message
> | news:94C6EA6A6FDAA31E75@130.133.1.4...
> | > "E2E t-bot BT"
> <English-to-English.translator.bot@Babel.Fish>
> | > wrote:
> | >
> | >> I am still using a corded mouse (logitech wheelmouse).
> | >>
> | >> I would like to get a better mouse which has at least
> as good
> | >> precision, responsiveness, accuracy, etc.
> | >>
> | >> Would an optical mouse be better on all counts?
> | >>
> | >> What about a cordless mouse. Are they poor performers?
> What
> | >> about a Bluetooth connection - is that good. Is it
> pricey.
> | >>
> | >> Are there any web sites which discuss this. Google is
> no help
> | >> to me.
> | >
> | >
> | > Assuming both are cord-attached then is an optical mouse
> is
> | > inherently better than a non-optical mouse?
> |
> |
>
>

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"Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/User)" <user@#notme.com> wrote in
message news:#GD7VHoHEHA.4088@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> The big difference is that an optical mouse has no roller ball, hence it
> doesn't require a mouse pad, can be used on virtually any solid surface
> and there are no maintenance problems such as grime clogging the roller
> ball thus requiring it to periodically be cleaned.

Instead - particularly if you have pets - you occasionally get a hair in
front of the sensor, with much the same result.

Alex

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On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 18:31:16 -0500, "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote:

>Optical mice work great on my blue jeans or my bare leg.
>
>Haven't tried my gut.
>
Works fine on my stomach.... might be the hair giving it texture tho...

>
>"Dave C." <spammersdie@ahorribledeath.now> wrote in message
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>| > >
>| > >
>| > >Assuming both are cord-attached then is an optical
>mouse is
>| > >inherently better than a non-optical mouse?
>| >
>| > ...like INFINITELY better. o_O
>| >
>|
>| Way over-simplified. It depends on how you use it. If
>you are only running
>| office apps. on a desktop computer and have a decent
>(non-reflective) mouse
>| pad, then it's hard to beat an optical mouse. For a
>notebook, you want a
>| mechanical mouse (the kind with a mouse ball). That's
>because optical mice
>| don't work too well on many surfaces you will find in
>motel rooms, and it's
>| inconvenient to have to carry a mouse pad with a notebook
>computer. Also,
>| optical mice (all brands) get a bit jumpy on quick
>movement. If you are a
>| gamer, you might want to stick with the ball. -Dave
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"Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
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> I would prefer optical with a USB wire. I might have a
> wireless as a second device.
>
> I al;so like trackballs. The trackball does need to be
> cleaned because dust, lint and even dead skin cells do get
> in the ball socket.

AFAIK most dust found where people are /is/ dead skin cells .

> A standard optical mouse is self-cleaning since the base is flat.

Neither of the two I have used - an Microsoft one and a Logitech one - have
a flat base.

> They work on any surface except polished metal and mirrors.

Anything really shiny seems to cause problems. I had a mouse mat where the
textured surface had been worn smooth(!), and it didn't quite work perfectly
on that.

Alex

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Depends to some extent on your desk. I used to play several hours
of UT at a time smoking cigs occasionally. Of course if I was chasing
someone or had my crosshairs on someone on a roof across town,
I wasn't paying too much attention to the cigarette. Got rid of a nice
Boomslang Razor with programmable buttons I could save key sequences
to that would work in the game(!) because it seemed I was always cleaning
the internals on the mouse. Now I use a Logitech optical mouse.
Very smooth, can't program keystrokes to the buttons but I'm also
not getting killed because I can't move.

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 23:02:38 +0100, Piotr Makley <pmakley@mail.com> wrote:

>"E2E t-bot BT" <English-to-English.translator.bot@Babel.Fish>
>wrote:
>
>> I am still using a corded mouse (logitech wheelmouse).
>>
>> I would like to get a better mouse which has at least as good
>> precision, responsiveness, accuracy, etc.
>>
>> Would an optical mouse be better on all counts?
>>
>> What about a cordless mouse. Are they poor performers? What
>> about a Bluetooth connection - is that good. Is it pricey.
>>
>> Are there any web sites which discuss this. Google is no help
>> to me.
>
>
>Assuming both are cord-attached then is an optical mouse is
>inherently better than a non-optical mouse?

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"Dave C." <spammersdie@ahorribledeath.now> wrote in message
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> > >
> > >
> > >Assuming both are cord-attached then is an optical mouse is
> > >inherently better than a non-optical mouse?
> >
> > ...like INFINITELY better. o_O
> >
>
> Way over-simplified. It depends on how you use it. If you are only
running
> office apps. on a desktop computer and have a decent (non-reflective)
mouse
> pad, then it's hard to beat an optical mouse. For a notebook, you want a
> mechanical mouse (the kind with a mouse ball). That's because optical
mice
> don't work too well on many surfaces you will find in motel rooms, and
it's
> inconvenient to have to carry a mouse pad with a notebook computer. Also,
> optical mice (all brands) get a bit jumpy on quick movement. If you are a
> gamer, you might want to stick with the ball. -Dave
>
Definitely depends on how you're going to use it. I find that because the
mouse is so light the tension from the cord will actually make it spring
back when you let go. This is a problem when doing CAD work. I'm going to
try a mouse pad to see if that will give some more friction, but I think it
is a function of weight vs. tension. Otherwise I like the ease of use and
smoothness. A good reason to go wireless and optical, I guess. But I don't
like the idea of batteries.
Wireless Ones: What happens when they (batteries) get low? Do you get a
warning of some sort, or do funky thing start happening?

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I use a MS Trackball Optical with the trackball under my
right thumb and I click with my index finger, scroll with
the middle and right click with the ring finger. A friend
has a MS Trackball Explorer with the buttons on the side and
the ball on top. That is always a hard switch to do.


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| My uncle uses a trackball, it drives me nuts!<VBG>
Whenever he asks me to
| figure out some issue he's having that darn trackball just
gets in the way.
| In the future, I'm bringing my own mouse!
|
| --
| Michael Solomon MS-MVP
| Windows Shell/User
| Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
| DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
|
| "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote
in message
| news:e4hyecoHEHA.3356@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
| >I would prefer optical with a USB wire. I might have a
| > wireless as a second device.
| >
| > I al;so like trackballs. The trackball does need to be
| > cleaned because dust, lint and even dead skin cells do
get
| > in the ball socket. A standard optical mouse is
| > self-cleaning since the base is flat. They work on any
| > surface except polished metal and mirrors.
| >
| >
| > "Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/User)"
| > <user@#notme.com> wrote in message
| > news:%23GD7VHoHEHA.4088@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| > | The big difference is that an optical mouse has no
roller
| > ball, hence it
| > | doesn't require a mouse pad, can be used on virtually
any
| > solid surface and
| > | there are no maintenance problems such as grime
clogging
| > the roller ball
| > | thus requiring it to periodically be cleaned.
| > |
| > | --
| > | Michael Solomon MS-MVP
| > | Windows Shell/User
| > | Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
| > | DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
| > |
| > | "Piotr Makley" <pmakley@mail.com> wrote in message
| > | news:94C6EA6A6FDAA31E75@130.133.1.4...
| > | > "E2E t-bot BT"
| > <English-to-English.translator.bot@Babel.Fish>
| > | > wrote:
| > | >
| > | >> I am still using a corded mouse (logitech
wheelmouse).
| > | >>
| > | >> I would like to get a better mouse which has at
least
| > as good
| > | >> precision, responsiveness, accuracy, etc.
| > | >>
| > | >> Would an optical mouse be better on all counts?
| > | >>
| > | >> What about a cordless mouse. Are they poor
performers?
| > What
| > | >> about a Bluetooth connection - is that good. Is it
| > pricey.
| > | >>
| > | >> Are there any web sites which discuss this. Google
is
| > no help
| > | >> to me.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > Assuming both are cord-attached then is an optical
mouse
| > is
| > | > inherently better than a non-optical mouse?
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

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A real computer geek would have the hair removed and get a
tattoo over an 6x6 area for the mouse laser to track.
{:-)



"Overlord" <kurt_SPAMLESS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 18:31:16 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
<p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote:
|
| >Optical mice work great on my blue jeans or my bare leg.
| >
| >Haven't tried my gut.
| >
| Works fine on my stomach.... might be the hair giving it
texture tho...
|
| >
| >"Dave C." <spammersdie@ahorribledeath.now> wrote in
message
| >news:qsidnfEWSrvxrerdRVn-sw@comcast.com...
| >| > >
| >| > >
| >| > >Assuming both are cord-attached then is an optical
| >mouse is
| >| > >inherently better than a non-optical mouse?
| >| >
| >| > ...like INFINITELY better. o_O
| >| >
| >|
| >| Way over-simplified. It depends on how you use it. If
| >you are only running
| >| office apps. on a desktop computer and have a decent
| >(non-reflective) mouse
| >| pad, then it's hard to beat an optical mouse. For a
| >notebook, you want a
| >| mechanical mouse (the kind with a mouse ball). That's
| >because optical mice
| >| don't work too well on many surfaces you will find in
| >motel rooms, and it's
| >| inconvenient to have to carry a mouse pad with a
notebook
| >computer. Also,
| >| optical mice (all brands) get a bit jumpy on quick
| >movement. If you are a
| >| gamer, you might want to stick with the ball. -Dave
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