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I have a new ASUS A7N8X-E with a SATA controller on board, and a new WD SATA
drive, and am finding it impossible to make it the boot disk.

XP SP2 will recognize the disk as long as I have a IDE disk installed, and
the SATA disk is usable, but I am unable to use it as the boot drive. If I
try to reinstall XP without the IDE drive then the install won't run because
it says that there are no drives at all.

I can use XP's disk management to partition and format the SATA drive but
this doesn't help.

Any answers, thanks, Bob

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"BobV" <robowa@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>I have a new ASUS A7N8X-E with a SATA controller on board, and a new WD
>SATA drive, and am finding it impossible to make it the boot disk.
>
> XP SP2 will recognize the disk as long as I have a IDE disk installed,
> and the SATA disk is usable, but I am unable to use it as the boot
> drive. If I try to reinstall XP without the IDE drive then the
> install won't run because it says that there are no drives at all.
>
> I can use XP's disk management to partition and format the SATA drive
> but this doesn't help.
>
> Any answers, thanks, Bob
>

Did you configure the boot drive sequence in BIOS to actually use the
SATA ports to find a bootable hard drive? Is the SATA controller
enabled in BIOS? Did you install the SATA BIOS (it has its own BIOS
that loads after the system BIOS although it might share EEPROM space),
usually as part of the chipset driver package for your motherboard?

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Did you actually set the new drive as master drive and the new one as slave,
and configure it correctly?


"_Vanguard_" <see_signature> wrote in message
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> "BobV" <robowa@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:uTuvqBz4EHA.2600@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >I have a new ASUS A7N8X-E with a SATA controller on board, and a new WD
> >SATA drive, and am finding it impossible to make it the boot disk.
> >
> > XP SP2 will recognize the disk as long as I have a IDE disk installed,
> > and the SATA disk is usable, but I am unable to use it as the boot
> > drive. If I try to reinstall XP without the IDE drive then the
> > install won't run because it says that there are no drives at all.
> >
> > I can use XP's disk management to partition and format the SATA drive
> > but this doesn't help.
> >
> > Any answers, thanks, Bob
> >
>
> Did you configure the boot drive sequence in BIOS to actually use the
> SATA ports to find a bootable hard drive? Is the SATA controller
> enabled in BIOS? Did you install the SATA BIOS (it has its own BIOS
> that loads after the system BIOS although it might share EEPROM space),
> usually as part of the chipset driver package for your motherboard?
>
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1st format the drive with a primary partition in xp,then shutdown computer,
remove the plugs for the IDE drives,start computer,configure the sata drive
in the bios,enable the boot menu,etc.,install xp cd,boot to xp cd,then
press F6
for sata/raid configuration,if non-raid,press the apropriate text,w/o raid
a floppy
isnt needed,F6 will let xp detect the sata drive,exit when thru,then
select,install
xp.

"BobV" wrote:

> I have a new ASUS A7N8X-E with a SATA controller on board, and a new WD SATA
> drive, and am finding it impossible to make it the boot disk.
>
> XP SP2 will recognize the disk as long as I have a IDE disk installed, and
> the SATA disk is usable, but I am unable to use it as the boot drive. If I
> try to reinstall XP without the IDE drive then the install won't run because
> it says that there are no drives at all.
>
> I can use XP's disk management to partition and format the SATA drive but
> this doesn't help.
>
> Any answers, thanks, Bob
>
>
>

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BobV wrote:
> I have a new ASUS A7N8X-E with a SATA controller on board, and a new WD SATA
> drive, and am finding it impossible to make it the boot disk.
>
> XP SP2 will recognize the disk as long as I have a IDE disk installed, and
> the SATA disk is usable, but I am unable to use it as the boot drive. If I
> try to reinstall XP without the IDE drive then the install won't run because
> it says that there are no drives at all.
>
> I can use XP's disk management to partition and format the SATA drive but
> this doesn't help.
>
> Any answers, thanks, Bob
>
>
you need to have two HDs to set up SATA Read the manual that came
with your MOBO. It should give you all the information that you need.
I have SATA setup on an Asus A8V MOBO.

Rick

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I htave the same board.

1) to install Windows on SATA, I have to
disconnect the IDE drive
Press F6 when asked to, and a diskette
with the necessary drivers (found on
the installation CD) in the floppy drive.

2) Make sure SCSI is set as the first boot
drive in the BIOS.

- But I think that in the SATA
BIOS one has to activate the HD for the
above to work. Read item 5.5.1 in
your manual.



"Rick" <RickH40@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> BobV wrote:
>> I have a new ASUS A7N8X-E with a SATA controller on board, and a new WD
>> SATA drive, and am finding it impossible to make it the boot disk.
>>
>> XP SP2 will recognize the disk as long as I have a IDE disk installed,
>> and the SATA disk is usable, but I am unable to use it as the boot drive.
>> If I try to reinstall XP without the IDE drive then the install won't run
>> because it says that there are no drives at all.
>>
>> I can use XP's disk management to partition and format the SATA drive but
>> this doesn't help.
>>
>> Any answers, thanks, Bob
> you need to have two HDs to set up SATA Read the manual that came with
> your MOBO. It should give you all the information that you need. I have
> SATA setup on an Asus A8V MOBO.
>
> Rick

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"The Undertaker" <chrispak9@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Did you actually set the new drive as master drive and the new one as
> slave,
> and configure it correctly?

SATA drives can be configured as master or slave? Hmm, on the mobos
that I've used which include an onboard SATA controller (and of the few
SATA controller cards that I've seen), there is no master/slave
selection. The hard drive connects to only one SATA port which is *not*
shared between two drives. You cannot connect 2 drives to one SATA
port. One SATA drive to one SATA controller via one SATA port. So
where would master/slave be effected when using SATA?

If you are using the SATA-PATA adapter to connect an IDE drive to a SATA
port, you'll need to configure the hard drive however it gets jumpered
as a single drive on an IDE port (i.e., as a single drive or as a master
drive, depending on what the hard drive maker requires for their drive).

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"Rick" <RickH40@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> BobV wrote:
>> I have a new ASUS A7N8X-E with a SATA controller on board, and a new
>> WD SATA drive, and am finding it impossible to make it the boot disk.
>>
>> XP SP2 will recognize the disk as long as I have a IDE disk
>> installed, and the SATA disk is usable, but I am unable to use it as
>> the boot drive. If I try to reinstall XP without the IDE drive then
>> the install won't run because it says that there are no drives at
>> all.
>>
>> I can use XP's disk management to partition and format the SATA drive
>> but this doesn't help.
>>
>> Any answers, thanks, Bob
> you need to have two HDs to set up SATA Read the manual that came
> with your MOBO. It should give you all the information that you need.
> I have SATA setup on an Asus A8V MOBO.
>
> Rick


Must be unique to Asus then. I have an Abit NF7-S v2 mobo with an
onboard SATA controller chip and BIOS. I only had one drive which was
connected to a SATA port on the mobo. I booted using the Windows XP
installation CD, hit F6 (to later load the SATA driver), it ran through
part of its install (including loading all the drivers to detect what
hardware might respond), and then stopped to ask me to insert the SCSI
driver floppy since no mass storage devices were detected. Inserted the
driver floppy and completed the Windows install. You have to do the
same thing if you want to use SCSI drives as your only drives or as your
boot drive.7

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Why would you need 2 drives?

"Rick" <RickH40@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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BobV wrote:
> I have a new ASUS A7N8X-E with a SATA controller on board, and a new WD
> SATA
> drive, and am finding it impossible to make it the boot disk.
>
> XP SP2 will recognize the disk as long as I have a IDE disk installed, and
> the SATA disk is usable, but I am unable to use it as the boot drive. If
> I
> try to reinstall XP without the IDE drive then the install won't run
> because
> it says that there are no drives at all.
>
> I can use XP's disk management to partition and format the SATA drive but
> this doesn't help.
>
> Any answers, thanks, Bob
>
>
you need to have two HDs to set up SATA Read the manual that came
with your MOBO. It should give you all the information that you need.
I have SATA setup on an Asus A8V MOBO.

Rick

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Rick wrote:
> BobV wrote:
>> I have a new ASUS A7N8X-E with a SATA controller on board, and a new
>> WD SATA drive, and am finding it impossible to make it the boot disk.
>>
>> XP SP2 will recognize the disk as long as I have a IDE disk
>> installed, and the SATA disk is usable, but I am unable to use it as
>> the boot drive. If I try to reinstall XP without the IDE drive then
>> the install won't run because it says that there are no drives at
>> all. I can use XP's disk management to partition and format the SATA
>> drive but this doesn't help.
>>
>> Any answers, thanks, Bob
>>
>>
> you need to have two HDs to set up SATA Read the manual that came
> with your MOBO. It should give you all the information that you need.
> I have SATA setup on an Asus A8V MOBO.
>
> Rick


Do you check your drivel before posting?! SATA is *NOT* RAID. I have a
system here with an Asus board running a single SATA drive. You do *NOT* I
repeat do *NOT* require more than one drive for SATA any more than you did
for PATA.
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One way to try:

Make sure your onboard controller is enabled by jumper(near battery) on your
motherbaord on the A7N8X Deluxe. Has to be in the 2-3 position I believe, you
can read the board near jumper, or look in the manual. When installing XP on
the drive, press F6 during setup and insert diskette with SATA drivers (You
may have to make one on another computer using the "makedisk" file in the
driver package available from ASUS website, or your CD), when prompted to do
so and follow onscreen instructions. Remove disk after it copies necessary
files, and continue Windows setup. You should have a clean install of XP with
your SATA drive (which should boot of course). Leave IDE drive out during
installation to make sure. I recommend to also install Nvidia Unified
Driver(5.10) package available at nvidia.com immediately after Windows
installation, as Windows will not have drivers for the board components. Good
Luck, I just put one very similar together and it works excellent!


"BobV" wrote:

> I have a new ASUS A7N8X-E with a SATA controller on board, and a new WD SATA
> drive, and am finding it impossible to make it the boot disk.
>
> XP SP2 will recognize the disk as long as I have a IDE disk installed, and
> the SATA disk is usable, but I am unable to use it as the boot drive. If I
> try to reinstall XP without the IDE drive then the install won't run because
> it says that there are no drives at all.
>
> I can use XP's disk management to partition and format the SATA drive but
> this doesn't help.
>
> Any answers, thanks, Bob
>
>
>

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SATA is newer than XP, so it can not automatically detect these disks.

Instead, you need to press F6 early in the XP installation (watch the bottom
of the screen). Then, you need to have the SATA drivers on a floppy. They
must be on a floppy, not on a CD. The XP installer will take what it needs.
OR, it will present you with a choice, if there are multiple drivers (e.g.,
98, 2000, XP); choose XP.

But, before you even think about installing XP, you need to determine
whether the SATA controller is also a RAID contoller. My ASUS P4S8X has a
combined RAID/SATA controller. So, I first needed to make a "RAID array".
But, I did not want to link two disks, so I used the custom RAID options to
make an array of one disk. The ASUS manual helped, but only a little about
this important step.

An interseting aside: Until I made an array, even the Seagate disk prep
tools could not see the disk. However, in your case it sounds like your
motherboard is handling some of this for you, since you mention that XP can
see the disk, after XP is installed on an IDE disk. Or, it could be that it
knows that one one SATA disk must be in an array of its own, or maybe you do
not have a RAID contoller.

One other item I recall about the installation process: I needed to go into
the BIOS and set te boot options to include:

IDE hard drive = none
other boot device = SCSI/onboard ATA boot

and this option on the advanced tab:

onboard ATA device = enable
onboard ATA device first = yes




As for master and slave, the concepts do not apply to SATA disks, since they
are one disk per controller.

"BobV" <robowa@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>I have a new ASUS A7N8X-E with a SATA controller on board, and a new WD
>SATA drive, and am finding it impossible to make it the boot disk.
>
> XP SP2 will recognize the disk as long as I have a IDE disk installed, and
> the SATA disk is usable, but I am unable to use it as the boot drive. If
> I try to reinstall XP without the IDE drive then the install won't run
> because it says that there are no drives at all.
>
> I can use XP's disk management to partition and format the SATA drive but
> this doesn't help.
>
> Any answers, thanks, Bob
>

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"Bob Harris" <rharris270[SPAM]@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> SATA is newer than XP, so it can not automatically detect these disks.
>
> Instead, you need to press F6 early in the XP installation (watch the
> bottom of the screen). Then, you need to have the SATA drivers on a
> floppy. They must be on a floppy, not on a CD. The XP installer will
> take what it needs. OR, it will present you with a choice, if there are
> multiple drivers (e.g., 98, 2000, XP); choose XP.

I am doing this
>
> But, before you even think about installing XP, you need to determine
> whether the SATA controller is also a RAID contoller. My ASUS P4S8X has a
> combined RAID/SATA controller. So, I first needed to make a "RAID array".
> But, I did not want to link two disks, so I used the custom RAID options
> to make an array of one disk. The ASUS manual helped, but only a little
> about this important step.

This is difficult to tell, but I think it is a combined RAID/SATA
controller. I see no way to make a RAID array with only one disk. There is
no option to make a custom RAID array. The ASUS manual is no help at all.
>
> An interseting aside: Until I made an array, even the Seagate disk prep
> tools could not see the disk. However, in your case it sounds like your
> motherboard is handling some of this for you, since you mention that XP
> can see the disk, after XP is installed on an IDE disk. Or, it could be
> that it knows that one one SATA disk must be in an array of its own, or
> maybe you do not have a RAID contoller.
>
Not sure

> One other item I recall about the installation process: I needed to go
> into the BIOS and set te boot options to include:
>
> IDE hard drive = none
> other boot device = SCSI/onboard ATA boot
>
> and this option on the advanced tab:
>
> onboard ATA device = enable
> onboard ATA device first = yes

I have none of these options available in BIOS. I can set the first boot
device to SCSI, but then the system hangs when trying to boot.

Thanks, Bob
>
>
>
>
> As for master and slave, the concepts do not apply to SATA disks, since
> they are one disk per controller.
>
> "BobV" <robowa@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:uTuvqBz4EHA.2600@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>I have a new ASUS A7N8X-E with a SATA controller on board, and a new WD
>>SATA drive, and am finding it impossible to make it the boot disk.
>>
>> XP SP2 will recognize the disk as long as I have a IDE disk installed,
>> and the SATA disk is usable, but I am unable to use it as the boot drive.
>> If I try to reinstall XP without the IDE drive then the install won't run
>> because it says that there are no drives at all.
>>
>> I can use XP's disk management to partition and format the SATA drive but
>> this doesn't help.
>>
>> Any answers, thanks, Bob
>>
>
>

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"tcmiked" <tcmiked@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> One way to try:
>
> Make sure your onboard controller is enabled by jumper(near battery) on
> your
> motherbaord on the A7N8X Deluxe. Has to be in the 2-3 position I believe,
> you
> can read the board near jumper, or look in the manual. When installing XP
> on
> the drive, press F6 during setup and insert diskette with SATA drivers
> (You
> may have to make one on another computer using the "makedisk" file in the
> driver package available from ASUS website, or your CD), when prompted to
> do
> so and follow onscreen instructions. Remove disk after it copies necessary
> files, and continue Windows setup. You should have a clean install of XP
> with
> your SATA drive (which should boot of course). Leave IDE drive out during
> installation to make sure. I recommend to also install Nvidia Unified
> Driver(5.10) package available at nvidia.com immediately after Windows
> installation, as Windows will not have drivers for the board components.
> Good
> Luck, I just put one very similar together and it works excellent!

I have done all of this with the exception of installing the NVIDIA Unified
driver(5.10) package with no luck at all. When I leave out the IDE drive,
XP install just says that it can find no hard drives and can not continue.
>
>
> "BobV" wrote:
>
>> I have a new ASUS A7N8X-E with a SATA controller on board, and a new WD
>> SATA
>> drive, and am finding it impossible to make it the boot disk.
>>
>> XP SP2 will recognize the disk as long as I have a IDE disk installed,
>> and
>> the SATA disk is usable, but I am unable to use it as the boot drive. If
>> I
>> try to reinstall XP without the IDE drive then the install won't run
>> because
>> it says that there are no drives at all.
>>
>> I can use XP's disk management to partition and format the SATA drive but
>> this doesn't help.
>>
>> Any answers, thanks, Bob
>>
>>
>>