Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

OS: Windows 2000 Pro
Mobo: Asus P4C800E-Deluxe
Graphics: Asus V9520 Magic GeForce FX5200 with TV out
Memory: 2 x 512MB @ 400MHz
CPU: Intel P4 3.066GHz
HDs: Numerous, 1 for OS, remainder for storage
Case: Lian Li PC70
PSU: 550 watts
1 PCI card: ATA/133 Host Adaptor with 2 x IDE HDs connected to one of the
two channels
Several other HDs connected to various channels on the Mobo
No overclocking or anything deviating from recommended use.

Hi,

I've been having the same trouble with this set-up since its inception and
I'm hoping someone can help me out.

What I'm trying to do:

The PC described above is effectively a video media server. The choice of
motherboard, case, PSU etc are specifically to provide storage for a larger
number of hard drives which store film and television programming. The
purpose is to replace using VHS for timeshifting and archiving and for
storage on a home network.

I use Zoom Player in place of Media player, (although the fault occurs with
either) and Opus directory in place of Windows Explorer, otherwise the
software installation is fairly typical and minimal.

Video is configured so that the TV out (screen 2) is set as a "full screen
device" so that whatever video I have running in a small or minimised screen
on the PC's monitor is rendered full-screen on my TV.

The problem:

When a new video programme starts (either when playing the next programme in
the directory/playlist automatically or when I double-click the next
programme I wish to watch), the output to the television screen switches
first to the Windows desktop (as there is no video currently playing on the
PC) and then after a second or so, as it starts to play the next file, back
as a full-screen device. This is normal.

BUT as it switches back to a full-screen device for the next programme, at
the point when you'd expect the new programme to start playing, the PC
crashes.

This problem is intermittent. Sometimes it can happen after EVERY programme,
sometimes I can view several in a row or stop and start a few times over a
period of days before the same fault will occur. But it never occurs when
viewing the first programme after a reboot - I always get at least one
programme's viewing.

This isn't the exception. I want to use the PC to capture video from VHS.
However this too leads to similar problems. I tried a Compro capture card
some months ago which often lead to crashes and, just this week, after a
clean reinstall of everything, I bought a Maxtor ConvertX external capture
device (it encodes video into DivX on the fly, is an external box and
connects via USB and is supplied with its own external power supply, so it
doesn't take up a PCI slot). When I try to run the software for this, as
soon as I get to a video mode (something like trying to capture or view
incoming video), the PC crashes.

Things I have tried which have not resolved the problem:

Complete O/S reinstall with minimal drivers/software on freshly formatted HD
Uninstall/reinstall video drivers
Uninstall/reinstall codecs
Reducing video acceleration
Run with case open and tons of cooling (I use Speedfan to monitor temps on
HDs, CPU etc and keep fan noise down and nothing ever goes above 50 degrees
anyway)
Tried one strip of each memory at a time to eliminate faulty strip

however the problem occurs under all these conditions.

It HAS to be a problem with video, I am assuming. I can leave the PC
running for weeks if I don't try any of these video applications and I use
it as a file server from remote PCs to playback video through their outputs,
without trouble.

Thanks for reading all that - please, can anyone help?

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

Sounds like a graphics driver/card problem.
Are you able to get hold of a *different* video card with TVO and re-test?

IM

"JustMe" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
news:428f39d8$0$39089$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
> OS: Windows 2000 Pro
> Mobo: Asus P4C800E-Deluxe
> Graphics: Asus V9520 Magic GeForce FX5200 with TV out
> Memory: 2 x 512MB @ 400MHz
> CPU: Intel P4 3.066GHz
> HDs: Numerous, 1 for OS, remainder for storage
> Case: Lian Li PC70
> PSU: 550 watts
> 1 PCI card: ATA/133 Host Adaptor with 2 x IDE HDs connected to one of the
> two channels
> Several other HDs connected to various channels on the Mobo
> No overclocking or anything deviating from recommended use.
>
> Hi,
>
> I've been having the same trouble with this set-up since its inception and
> I'm hoping someone can help me out.
>
> What I'm trying to do:
>
> The PC described above is effectively a video media server. The choice of
> motherboard, case, PSU etc are specifically to provide storage for a
> larger
> number of hard drives which store film and television programming. The
> purpose is to replace using VHS for timeshifting and archiving and for
> storage on a home network.
>
> I use Zoom Player in place of Media player, (although the fault occurs
> with
> either) and Opus directory in place of Windows Explorer, otherwise the
> software installation is fairly typical and minimal.
>
> Video is configured so that the TV out (screen 2) is set as a "full screen
> device" so that whatever video I have running in a small or minimised
> screen
> on the PC's monitor is rendered full-screen on my TV.
>
> The problem:
>
> When a new video programme starts (either when playing the next programme
> in
> the directory/playlist automatically or when I double-click the next
> programme I wish to watch), the output to the television screen switches
> first to the Windows desktop (as there is no video currently playing on
> the
> PC) and then after a second or so, as it starts to play the next file,
> back
> as a full-screen device. This is normal.
>
> BUT as it switches back to a full-screen device for the next programme, at
> the point when you'd expect the new programme to start playing, the PC
> crashes.
>
> This problem is intermittent. Sometimes it can happen after EVERY
> programme,
> sometimes I can view several in a row or stop and start a few times over a
> period of days before the same fault will occur. But it never occurs when
> viewing the first programme after a reboot - I always get at least one
> programme's viewing.
>
> This isn't the exception. I want to use the PC to capture video from VHS.
> However this too leads to similar problems. I tried a Compro capture card
> some months ago which often lead to crashes and, just this week, after a
> clean reinstall of everything, I bought a Maxtor ConvertX external capture
> device (it encodes video into DivX on the fly, is an external box and
> connects via USB and is supplied with its own external power supply, so it
> doesn't take up a PCI slot). When I try to run the software for this, as
> soon as I get to a video mode (something like trying to capture or view
> incoming video), the PC crashes.
>
> Things I have tried which have not resolved the problem:
>
> Complete O/S reinstall with minimal drivers/software on freshly formatted
> HD
> Uninstall/reinstall video drivers
> Uninstall/reinstall codecs
> Reducing video acceleration
> Run with case open and tons of cooling (I use Speedfan to monitor temps on
> HDs, CPU etc and keep fan noise down and nothing ever goes above 50
> degrees
> anyway)
> Tried one strip of each memory at a time to eliminate faulty strip
>
> however the problem occurs under all these conditions.
>
> It HAS to be a problem with video, I am assuming. I can leave the PC
> running for weeks if I don't try any of these video applications and I use
> it as a file server from remote PCs to playback video through their
> outputs,
> without trouble.
>
> Thanks for reading all that - please, can anyone help?
>
>

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

Yes, that was my next thought. But I didn't want to spend more cash until I
had a few opinions.

"Ian" <ian_mortimer@nysmnyd.com> wrote in message
news:%zHje.6152$Wp.839936@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Sounds like a graphics driver/card problem.
> Are you able to get hold of a *different* video card with TVO and re-test?
>
> IM
>
> "JustMe" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
> news:428f39d8$0$39089$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
> > OS: Windows 2000 Pro
> > Mobo: Asus P4C800E-Deluxe
> > Graphics: Asus V9520 Magic GeForce FX5200 with TV out
> > Memory: 2 x 512MB @ 400MHz
> > CPU: Intel P4 3.066GHz
> > HDs: Numerous, 1 for OS, remainder for storage
> > Case: Lian Li PC70
> > PSU: 550 watts
> > 1 PCI card: ATA/133 Host Adaptor with 2 x IDE HDs connected to one of
the
> > two channels
> > Several other HDs connected to various channels on the Mobo
> > No overclocking or anything deviating from recommended use.
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've been having the same trouble with this set-up since its inception
and
> > I'm hoping someone can help me out.
> >
> > What I'm trying to do:
> >
> > The PC described above is effectively a video media server. The choice
of
> > motherboard, case, PSU etc are specifically to provide storage for a
> > larger
> > number of hard drives which store film and television programming. The
> > purpose is to replace using VHS for timeshifting and archiving and for
> > storage on a home network.
> >
> > I use Zoom Player in place of Media player, (although the fault occurs
> > with
> > either) and Opus directory in place of Windows Explorer, otherwise the
> > software installation is fairly typical and minimal.
> >
> > Video is configured so that the TV out (screen 2) is set as a "full
screen
> > device" so that whatever video I have running in a small or minimised
> > screen
> > on the PC's monitor is rendered full-screen on my TV.
> >
> > The problem:
> >
> > When a new video programme starts (either when playing the next
programme
> > in
> > the directory/playlist automatically or when I double-click the next
> > programme I wish to watch), the output to the television screen switches
> > first to the Windows desktop (as there is no video currently playing on
> > the
> > PC) and then after a second or so, as it starts to play the next file,
> > back
> > as a full-screen device. This is normal.
> >
> > BUT as it switches back to a full-screen device for the next programme,
at
> > the point when you'd expect the new programme to start playing, the PC
> > crashes.
> >
> > This problem is intermittent. Sometimes it can happen after EVERY
> > programme,
> > sometimes I can view several in a row or stop and start a few times over
a
> > period of days before the same fault will occur. But it never occurs
when
> > viewing the first programme after a reboot - I always get at least one
> > programme's viewing.
> >
> > This isn't the exception. I want to use the PC to capture video from
VHS.
> > However this too leads to similar problems. I tried a Compro capture
card
> > some months ago which often lead to crashes and, just this week, after a
> > clean reinstall of everything, I bought a Maxtor ConvertX external
capture
> > device (it encodes video into DivX on the fly, is an external box and
> > connects via USB and is supplied with its own external power supply, so
it
> > doesn't take up a PCI slot). When I try to run the software for this, as
> > soon as I get to a video mode (something like trying to capture or view
> > incoming video), the PC crashes.
> >
> > Things I have tried which have not resolved the problem:
> >
> > Complete O/S reinstall with minimal drivers/software on freshly
formatted
> > HD
> > Uninstall/reinstall video drivers
> > Uninstall/reinstall codecs
> > Reducing video acceleration
> > Run with case open and tons of cooling (I use Speedfan to monitor temps
on
> > HDs, CPU etc and keep fan noise down and nothing ever goes above 50
> > degrees
> > anyway)
> > Tried one strip of each memory at a time to eliminate faulty strip
> >
> > however the problem occurs under all these conditions.
> >
> > It HAS to be a problem with video, I am assuming. I can leave the PC
> > running for weeks if I don't try any of these video applications and I
use
> > it as a file server from remote PCs to playback video through their
> > outputs,
> > without trouble.
> >
> > Thanks for reading all that - please, can anyone help?
> >
> >
>
>

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

Although usually very stable, Nvidia drivers are optimized for gaming more
than anything else and have been known to choke while venturing outside of
that realm - so to speak.
Your Asus card is not very high-end and usually sell for approx. $40-45US

On the other hand, Matrox have been in the graphics game much longer and
make cards specifically for your type of application.
But - some of their cards are not cheap...!

Check out
http://www.matrox.com/mga/products [...] atures.cfm


IM.




"JustMe" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
news:428f4aeb$0$39075$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
> Yes, that was my next thought. But I didn't want to spend more cash until
> I
> had a few opinions.
>
> "Ian" <ian_mortimer@nysmnyd.com> wrote in message
> news:%zHje.6152$Wp.839936@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> Sounds like a graphics driver/card problem.
>> Are you able to get hold of a *different* video card with TVO and
>> re-test?
>>
>> IM
>>
>> "JustMe" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
>> news:428f39d8$0$39089$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
>> > OS: Windows 2000 Pro
>> > Mobo: Asus P4C800E-Deluxe
>> > Graphics: Asus V9520 Magic GeForce FX5200 with TV out
>> > Memory: 2 x 512MB @ 400MHz
>> > CPU: Intel P4 3.066GHz
>> > HDs: Numerous, 1 for OS, remainder for storage
>> > Case: Lian Li PC70
>> > PSU: 550 watts
>> > 1 PCI card: ATA/133 Host Adaptor with 2 x IDE HDs connected to one of
> the
>> > two channels
>> > Several other HDs connected to various channels on the Mobo
>> > No overclocking or anything deviating from recommended use.
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I've been having the same trouble with this set-up since its inception
> and
>> > I'm hoping someone can help me out.
>> >
>> > What I'm trying to do:
>> >
>> > The PC described above is effectively a video media server. The choice
> of
>> > motherboard, case, PSU etc are specifically to provide storage for a
>> > larger
>> > number of hard drives which store film and television programming. The
>> > purpose is to replace using VHS for timeshifting and archiving and for
>> > storage on a home network.
>> >
>> > I use Zoom Player in place of Media player, (although the fault occurs
>> > with
>> > either) and Opus directory in place of Windows Explorer, otherwise the
>> > software installation is fairly typical and minimal.
>> >
>> > Video is configured so that the TV out (screen 2) is set as a "full
> screen
>> > device" so that whatever video I have running in a small or minimised
>> > screen
>> > on the PC's monitor is rendered full-screen on my TV.
>> >
>> > The problem:
>> >
>> > When a new video programme starts (either when playing the next
> programme
>> > in
>> > the directory/playlist automatically or when I double-click the next
>> > programme I wish to watch), the output to the television screen
>> > switches
>> > first to the Windows desktop (as there is no video currently playing on
>> > the
>> > PC) and then after a second or so, as it starts to play the next file,
>> > back
>> > as a full-screen device. This is normal.
>> >
>> > BUT as it switches back to a full-screen device for the next programme,
> at
>> > the point when you'd expect the new programme to start playing, the PC
>> > crashes.
>> >
>> > This problem is intermittent. Sometimes it can happen after EVERY
>> > programme,
>> > sometimes I can view several in a row or stop and start a few times
>> > over
> a
>> > period of days before the same fault will occur. But it never occurs
> when
>> > viewing the first programme after a reboot - I always get at least one
>> > programme's viewing.
>> >
>> > This isn't the exception. I want to use the PC to capture video from
> VHS.
>> > However this too leads to similar problems. I tried a Compro capture
> card
>> > some months ago which often lead to crashes and, just this week, after
>> > a
>> > clean reinstall of everything, I bought a Maxtor ConvertX external
> capture
>> > device (it encodes video into DivX on the fly, is an external box and
>> > connects via USB and is supplied with its own external power supply, so
> it
>> > doesn't take up a PCI slot). When I try to run the software for this,
>> > as
>> > soon as I get to a video mode (something like trying to capture or view
>> > incoming video), the PC crashes.
>> >
>> > Things I have tried which have not resolved the problem:
>> >
>> > Complete O/S reinstall with minimal drivers/software on freshly
> formatted
>> > HD
>> > Uninstall/reinstall video drivers
>> > Uninstall/reinstall codecs
>> > Reducing video acceleration
>> > Run with case open and tons of cooling (I use Speedfan to monitor temps
> on
>> > HDs, CPU etc and keep fan noise down and nothing ever goes above 50
>> > degrees
>> > anyway)
>> > Tried one strip of each memory at a time to eliminate faulty strip
>> >
>> > however the problem occurs under all these conditions.
>> >
>> > It HAS to be a problem with video, I am assuming. I can leave the PC
>> > running for weeks if I don't try any of these video applications and I
> use
>> > it as a file server from remote PCs to playback video through their
>> > outputs,
>> > without trouble.
>> >
>> > Thanks for reading all that - please, can anyone help?
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

Thanks - my next question was going to be, given my setup and use, what
people would recommend.

I bought the Asus video card on the basis that it was simple, did what I
needed with no superfluous features and I wrongly figured I wouldn't have
any issues pairing an Asus video card with an Asus Mobo.

I have to say that I don't find the NVidia software particularly intuitive
anyway and I do seem to end up going round in circles to find simple
functions sometimes, so I wouldn't be sad to see the back of it - especially
as the Matrox seems to support my requirement for minimised video app. on PC
monitor, full screen of said video on TV out, and I have had positive
experiences with Matrox in the passed.

Having looked at pictures of the G450, the spec sheet and details on the
Micro Direct website
(http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=5690&GroupID=27), I
cannot see composite video/S-Video outputs. Do you know: is there an adaptor
cable supplied with that converts the second video output socket to these?


"Ian" <ian_mortimer@nysmnyd.com> wrote in message
news:ShIje.6171$Wp.844723@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Although usually very stable, Nvidia drivers are optimized for gaming more
> than anything else and have been known to choke while venturing outside of
> that realm - so to speak.
> Your Asus card is not very high-end and usually sell for approx. $40-45US
>
> On the other hand, Matrox have been in the graphics game much longer and
> make cards specifically for your type of application.
> But - some of their cards are not cheap...!
>
> Check out
> http://www.matrox.com/mga/products [...] atures.cfm
>
>
> IM.
>
>
>
>
> "JustMe" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
> news:428f4aeb$0$39075$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
> > Yes, that was my next thought. But I didn't want to spend more cash
until
> > I
> > had a few opinions.
> >
> > "Ian" <ian_mortimer@nysmnyd.com> wrote in message
> > news:%zHje.6152$Wp.839936@news20.bellglobal.com...
> >> Sounds like a graphics driver/card problem.
> >> Are you able to get hold of a *different* video card with TVO and
> >> re-test?
> >>
> >> IM
> >>
> >> "JustMe" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
> >> news:428f39d8$0$39089$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
> >> > OS: Windows 2000 Pro
> >> > Mobo: Asus P4C800E-Deluxe
> >> > Graphics: Asus V9520 Magic GeForce FX5200 with TV out
> >> > Memory: 2 x 512MB @ 400MHz
> >> > CPU: Intel P4 3.066GHz
> >> > HDs: Numerous, 1 for OS, remainder for storage
> >> > Case: Lian Li PC70
> >> > PSU: 550 watts
> >> > 1 PCI card: ATA/133 Host Adaptor with 2 x IDE HDs connected to one of
> > the
> >> > two channels
> >> > Several other HDs connected to various channels on the Mobo
> >> > No overclocking or anything deviating from recommended use.
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I've been having the same trouble with this set-up since its
inception
> > and
> >> > I'm hoping someone can help me out.
> >> >
> >> > What I'm trying to do:
> >> >
> >> > The PC described above is effectively a video media server. The
choice
> > of
> >> > motherboard, case, PSU etc are specifically to provide storage for a
> >> > larger
> >> > number of hard drives which store film and television programming.
The
> >> > purpose is to replace using VHS for timeshifting and archiving and
for
> >> > storage on a home network.
> >> >
> >> > I use Zoom Player in place of Media player, (although the fault
occurs
> >> > with
> >> > either) and Opus directory in place of Windows Explorer, otherwise
the
> >> > software installation is fairly typical and minimal.
> >> >
> >> > Video is configured so that the TV out (screen 2) is set as a "full
> > screen
> >> > device" so that whatever video I have running in a small or minimised
> >> > screen
> >> > on the PC's monitor is rendered full-screen on my TV.
> >> >
> >> > The problem:
> >> >
> >> > When a new video programme starts (either when playing the next
> > programme
> >> > in
> >> > the directory/playlist automatically or when I double-click the next
> >> > programme I wish to watch), the output to the television screen
> >> > switches
> >> > first to the Windows desktop (as there is no video currently playing
on
> >> > the
> >> > PC) and then after a second or so, as it starts to play the next
file,
> >> > back
> >> > as a full-screen device. This is normal.
> >> >
> >> > BUT as it switches back to a full-screen device for the next
programme,
> > at
> >> > the point when you'd expect the new programme to start playing, the
PC
> >> > crashes.
> >> >
> >> > This problem is intermittent. Sometimes it can happen after EVERY
> >> > programme,
> >> > sometimes I can view several in a row or stop and start a few times
> >> > over
> > a
> >> > period of days before the same fault will occur. But it never occurs
> > when
> >> > viewing the first programme after a reboot - I always get at least
one
> >> > programme's viewing.
> >> >
> >> > This isn't the exception. I want to use the PC to capture video from
> > VHS.
> >> > However this too leads to similar problems. I tried a Compro capture
> > card
> >> > some months ago which often lead to crashes and, just this week,
after
> >> > a
> >> > clean reinstall of everything, I bought a Maxtor ConvertX external
> > capture
> >> > device (it encodes video into DivX on the fly, is an external box and
> >> > connects via USB and is supplied with its own external power supply,
so
> > it
> >> > doesn't take up a PCI slot). When I try to run the software for this,
> >> > as
> >> > soon as I get to a video mode (something like trying to capture or
view
> >> > incoming video), the PC crashes.
> >> >
> >> > Things I have tried which have not resolved the problem:
> >> >
> >> > Complete O/S reinstall with minimal drivers/software on freshly
> > formatted
> >> > HD
> >> > Uninstall/reinstall video drivers
> >> > Uninstall/reinstall codecs
> >> > Reducing video acceleration
> >> > Run with case open and tons of cooling (I use Speedfan to monitor
temps
> > on
> >> > HDs, CPU etc and keep fan noise down and nothing ever goes above 50
> >> > degrees
> >> > anyway)
> >> > Tried one strip of each memory at a time to eliminate faulty strip
> >> >
> >> > however the problem occurs under all these conditions.
> >> >
> >> > It HAS to be a problem with video, I am assuming. I can leave the PC
> >> > running for weeks if I don't try any of these video applications and
I
> > use
> >> > it as a file server from remote PCs to playback video through their
> >> > outputs,
> >> > without trouble.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for reading all that - please, can anyone help?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

Not sure what is supplied with that card
This one looks more sophisticated!

http://www.matrox.com/mga/products [...] i/home.cfm

If you ndded to know more that what the website can tell you, you could
always enquire at

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

United Kingdom
Matrox UK

Sefton Park
Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire
SL2 4JS United Kingdom

Pre-sales hotline: +44 (0) 1753 66 55 44
Fax: +44 (0) 1753 66 55 49
email: graphic.info.uk@matrox.com



IM.


"JustMe" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
news:428f7bbb$0$39078$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
> Thanks - my next question was going to be, given my setup and use, what
> people would recommend.
>
> I bought the Asus video card on the basis that it was simple, did what I
> needed with no superfluous features and I wrongly figured I wouldn't have
> any issues pairing an Asus video card with an Asus Mobo.
>
> I have to say that I don't find the NVidia software particularly intuitive
> anyway and I do seem to end up going round in circles to find simple
> functions sometimes, so I wouldn't be sad to see the back of it -
> especially
> as the Matrox seems to support my requirement for minimised video app. on
> PC
> monitor, full screen of said video on TV out, and I have had positive
> experiences with Matrox in the passed.
>
> Having looked at pictures of the G450, the spec sheet and details on the
> Micro Direct website
> (http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=5690&GroupID=27),
> I
> cannot see composite video/S-Video outputs. Do you know: is there an
> adaptor
> cable supplied with that converts the second video output socket to these?
>
>
> "Ian" <ian_mortimer@nysmnyd.com> wrote in message
> news:ShIje.6171$Wp.844723@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> Although usually very stable, Nvidia drivers are optimized for gaming
>> more
>> than anything else and have been known to choke while venturing outside
>> of
>> that realm - so to speak.
>> Your Asus card is not very high-end and usually sell for approx. $40-45US
>>
>> On the other hand, Matrox have been in the graphics game much longer and
>> make cards specifically for your type of application.
>> But - some of their cards are not cheap...!
>>
>> Check out
>> http://www.matrox.com/mga/products [...] atures.cfm
>>
>>
>> IM.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "JustMe" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
>> news:428f4aeb$0$39075$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
>> > Yes, that was my next thought. But I didn't want to spend more cash
> until
>> > I
>> > had a few opinions.
>> >
>> > "Ian" <ian_mortimer@nysmnyd.com> wrote in message
>> > news:%zHje.6152$Wp.839936@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> >> Sounds like a graphics driver/card problem.
>> >> Are you able to get hold of a *different* video card with TVO and
>> >> re-test?
>> >>
>> >> IM
>> >>
>> >> "JustMe" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
>> >> news:428f39d8$0$39089$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
>> >> > OS: Windows 2000 Pro
>> >> > Mobo: Asus P4C800E-Deluxe
>> >> > Graphics: Asus V9520 Magic GeForce FX5200 with TV out
>> >> > Memory: 2 x 512MB @ 400MHz
>> >> > CPU: Intel P4 3.066GHz
>> >> > HDs: Numerous, 1 for OS, remainder for storage
>> >> > Case: Lian Li PC70
>> >> > PSU: 550 watts
>> >> > 1 PCI card: ATA/133 Host Adaptor with 2 x IDE HDs connected to one
>> >> > of
>> > the
>> >> > two channels
>> >> > Several other HDs connected to various channels on the Mobo
>> >> > No overclocking or anything deviating from recommended use.
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > I've been having the same trouble with this set-up since its
> inception
>> > and
>> >> > I'm hoping someone can help me out.
>> >> >
>> >> > What I'm trying to do:
>> >> >
>> >> > The PC described above is effectively a video media server. The
> choice
>> > of
>> >> > motherboard, case, PSU etc are specifically to provide storage for a
>> >> > larger
>> >> > number of hard drives which store film and television programming.
> The
>> >> > purpose is to replace using VHS for timeshifting and archiving and
> for
>> >> > storage on a home network.
>> >> >
>> >> > I use Zoom Player in place of Media player, (although the fault
> occurs
>> >> > with
>> >> > either) and Opus directory in place of Windows Explorer, otherwise
> the
>> >> > software installation is fairly typical and minimal.
>> >> >
>> >> > Video is configured so that the TV out (screen 2) is set as a "full
>> > screen
>> >> > device" so that whatever video I have running in a small or
>> >> > minimised
>> >> > screen
>> >> > on the PC's monitor is rendered full-screen on my TV.
>> >> >
>> >> > The problem:
>> >> >
>> >> > When a new video programme starts (either when playing the next
>> > programme
>> >> > in
>> >> > the directory/playlist automatically or when I double-click the next
>> >> > programme I wish to watch), the output to the television screen
>> >> > switches
>> >> > first to the Windows desktop (as there is no video currently playing
> on
>> >> > the
>> >> > PC) and then after a second or so, as it starts to play the next
> file,
>> >> > back
>> >> > as a full-screen device. This is normal.
>> >> >
>> >> > BUT as it switches back to a full-screen device for the next
> programme,
>> > at
>> >> > the point when you'd expect the new programme to start playing, the
> PC
>> >> > crashes.
>> >> >
>> >> > This problem is intermittent. Sometimes it can happen after EVERY
>> >> > programme,
>> >> > sometimes I can view several in a row or stop and start a few times
>> >> > over
>> > a
>> >> > period of days before the same fault will occur. But it never occurs
>> > when
>> >> > viewing the first programme after a reboot - I always get at least
> one
>> >> > programme's viewing.
>> >> >
>> >> > This isn't the exception. I want to use the PC to capture video from
>> > VHS.
>> >> > However this too leads to similar problems. I tried a Compro capture
>> > card
>> >> > some months ago which often lead to crashes and, just this week,
> after
>> >> > a
>> >> > clean reinstall of everything, I bought a Maxtor ConvertX external
>> > capture
>> >> > device (it encodes video into DivX on the fly, is an external box
>> >> > and
>> >> > connects via USB and is supplied with its own external power supply,
> so
>> > it
>> >> > doesn't take up a PCI slot). When I try to run the software for
>> >> > this,
>> >> > as
>> >> > soon as I get to a video mode (something like trying to capture or
> view
>> >> > incoming video), the PC crashes.
>> >> >
>> >> > Things I have tried which have not resolved the problem:
>> >> >
>> >> > Complete O/S reinstall with minimal drivers/software on freshly
>> > formatted
>> >> > HD
>> >> > Uninstall/reinstall video drivers
>> >> > Uninstall/reinstall codecs
>> >> > Reducing video acceleration
>> >> > Run with case open and tons of cooling (I use Speedfan to monitor
> temps
>> > on
>> >> > HDs, CPU etc and keep fan noise down and nothing ever goes above 50
>> >> > degrees
>> >> > anyway)
>> >> > Tried one strip of each memory at a time to eliminate faulty strip
>> >> >
>> >> > however the problem occurs under all these conditions.
>> >> >
>> >> > It HAS to be a problem with video, I am assuming. I can leave the PC
>> >> > running for weeks if I don't try any of these video applications and
> I
>> > use
>> >> > it as a file server from remote PCs to playback video through their
>> >> > outputs,
>> >> > without trouble.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for reading all that - please, can anyone help?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

In article <428f39d8$0$39089$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net>,
"JustMe" <no@spam.thanks> wrote:

> OS: Windows 2000 Pro
> Mobo: Asus P4C800E-Deluxe
> Graphics: Asus V9520 Magic GeForce FX5200 with TV out
> Memory: 2 x 512MB @ 400MHz
> CPU: Intel P4 3.066GHz
> HDs: Numerous, 1 for OS, remainder for storage
> Case: Lian Li PC70
> PSU: 550 watts
> 1 PCI card: ATA/133 Host Adaptor with 2 x IDE HDs connected to one of the
> two channels
> Several other HDs connected to various channels on the Mobo
> No overclocking or anything deviating from recommended use.
>
> Hi,
>
> I've been having the same trouble with this set-up since its inception and
> I'm hoping someone can help me out.
>
> What I'm trying to do:
>
> The PC described above is effectively a video media server. The choice of
> motherboard, case, PSU etc are specifically to provide storage for a larger
> number of hard drives which store film and television programming. The
> purpose is to replace using VHS for timeshifting and archiving and for
> storage on a home network.
>
> I use Zoom Player in place of Media player, (although the fault occurs with
> either) and Opus directory in place of Windows Explorer, otherwise the
> software installation is fairly typical and minimal.
>
> Video is configured so that the TV out (screen 2) is set as a "full screen
> device" so that whatever video I have running in a small or minimised screen
> on the PC's monitor is rendered full-screen on my TV.
>
> The problem:
>
> When a new video programme starts (either when playing the next programme in
> the directory/playlist automatically or when I double-click the next
> programme I wish to watch), the output to the television screen switches
> first to the Windows desktop (as there is no video currently playing on the
> PC) and then after a second or so, as it starts to play the next file, back
> as a full-screen device. This is normal.
>
> BUT as it switches back to a full-screen device for the next programme, at
> the point when you'd expect the new programme to start playing, the PC
> crashes.
>
> This problem is intermittent. Sometimes it can happen after EVERY programme,
> sometimes I can view several in a row or stop and start a few times over a
> period of days before the same fault will occur. But it never occurs when
> viewing the first programme after a reboot - I always get at least one
> programme's viewing.
>
> This isn't the exception. I want to use the PC to capture video from VHS.
> However this too leads to similar problems. I tried a Compro capture card
> some months ago which often lead to crashes and, just this week, after a
> clean reinstall of everything, I bought a Maxtor ConvertX external capture
> device (it encodes video into DivX on the fly, is an external box and
> connects via USB and is supplied with its own external power supply, so it
> doesn't take up a PCI slot). When I try to run the software for this, as
> soon as I get to a video mode (something like trying to capture or view
> incoming video), the PC crashes.
>
> Things I have tried which have not resolved the problem:
>
> Complete O/S reinstall with minimal drivers/software on freshly formatted HD
> Uninstall/reinstall video drivers
> Uninstall/reinstall codecs
> Reducing video acceleration
> Run with case open and tons of cooling (I use Speedfan to monitor temps on
> HDs, CPU etc and keep fan noise down and nothing ever goes above 50 degrees
> anyway)
> Tried one strip of each memory at a time to eliminate faulty strip
>
> however the problem occurs under all these conditions.
>
> It HAS to be a problem with video, I am assuming. I can leave the PC
> running for weeks if I don't try any of these video applications and I use
> it as a file server from remote PCs to playback video through their outputs,
> without trouble.
>
> Thanks for reading all that - please, can anyone help?

Try a different driver:

http://groups.google.ca/group/alt. [...] urce&hl=en

Paul

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Yes, was just wondering if you would know before Monday as I would've gone
out to buy one today.
In the end it's academic (see my reply to Paul below).
Thanks for the info and advice, though.

"Ian" <ian_mortimer@nysmnyd.com> wrote in message
news:7cNje.6933$Wp.874017@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Not sure what is supplied with that card
> This one looks more sophisticated!
>
> http://www.matrox.com/mga/products [...] i/home.cfm
>
> If you ndded to know more that what the website can tell you, you could
> always enquire at
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
>
> United Kingdom
> Matrox UK
>
> Sefton Park
> Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire
> SL2 4JS United Kingdom
>
> Pre-sales hotline: +44 (0) 1753 66 55 44
> Fax: +44 (0) 1753 66 55 49
> email: graphic.info.uk@matrox.com
>
>
>
> IM.
>
>
> "JustMe" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
> news:428f7bbb$0$39078$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
> > Thanks - my next question was going to be, given my setup and use, what
> > people would recommend.
> >
> > I bought the Asus video card on the basis that it was simple, did what I
> > needed with no superfluous features and I wrongly figured I wouldn't
have
> > any issues pairing an Asus video card with an Asus Mobo.
> >
> > I have to say that I don't find the NVidia software particularly
intuitive
> > anyway and I do seem to end up going round in circles to find simple
> > functions sometimes, so I wouldn't be sad to see the back of it -
> > especially
> > as the Matrox seems to support my requirement for minimised video app.
on
> > PC
> > monitor, full screen of said video on TV out, and I have had positive
> > experiences with Matrox in the passed.
> >
> > Having looked at pictures of the G450, the spec sheet and details on the
> > Micro Direct website
> >
(http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=5690&GroupID=27),
> > I
> > cannot see composite video/S-Video outputs. Do you know: is there an
> > adaptor
> > cable supplied with that converts the second video output socket to
these?
> >
> >
> > "Ian" <ian_mortimer@nysmnyd.com> wrote in message
> > news:ShIje.6171$Wp.844723@news20.bellglobal.com...
> >> Although usually very stable, Nvidia drivers are optimized for gaming
> >> more
> >> than anything else and have been known to choke while venturing outside
> >> of
> >> that realm - so to speak.
> >> Your Asus card is not very high-end and usually sell for approx.
$40-45US
> >>
> >> On the other hand, Matrox have been in the graphics game much longer
and
> >> make cards specifically for your type of application.
> >> But - some of their cards are not cheap...!
> >>
> >> Check out
> >> http://www.matrox.com/mga/products [...] atures.cfm
> >>
> >>
> >> IM.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "JustMe" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
> >> news:428f4aeb$0$39075$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
> >> > Yes, that was my next thought. But I didn't want to spend more cash
> > until
> >> > I
> >> > had a few opinions.
> >> >
> >> > "Ian" <ian_mortimer@nysmnyd.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:%zHje.6152$Wp.839936@news20.bellglobal.com...
> >> >> Sounds like a graphics driver/card problem.
> >> >> Are you able to get hold of a *different* video card with TVO and
> >> >> re-test?
> >> >>
> >> >> IM
> >> >>
> >> >> "JustMe" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
> >> >> news:428f39d8$0$39089$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
> >> >> > OS: Windows 2000 Pro
> >> >> > Mobo: Asus P4C800E-Deluxe
> >> >> > Graphics: Asus V9520 Magic GeForce FX5200 with TV out
> >> >> > Memory: 2 x 512MB @ 400MHz
> >> >> > CPU: Intel P4 3.066GHz
> >> >> > HDs: Numerous, 1 for OS, remainder for storage
> >> >> > Case: Lian Li PC70
> >> >> > PSU: 550 watts
> >> >> > 1 PCI card: ATA/133 Host Adaptor with 2 x IDE HDs connected to one
> >> >> > of
> >> > the
> >> >> > two channels
> >> >> > Several other HDs connected to various channels on the Mobo
> >> >> > No overclocking or anything deviating from recommended use.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I've been having the same trouble with this set-up since its
> > inception
> >> > and
> >> >> > I'm hoping someone can help me out.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What I'm trying to do:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The PC described above is effectively a video media server. The
> > choice
> >> > of
> >> >> > motherboard, case, PSU etc are specifically to provide storage for
a
> >> >> > larger
> >> >> > number of hard drives which store film and television programming.
> > The
> >> >> > purpose is to replace using VHS for timeshifting and archiving and
> > for
> >> >> > storage on a home network.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I use Zoom Player in place of Media player, (although the fault
> > occurs
> >> >> > with
> >> >> > either) and Opus directory in place of Windows Explorer, otherwise
> > the
> >> >> > software installation is fairly typical and minimal.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Video is configured so that the TV out (screen 2) is set as a
"full
> >> > screen
> >> >> > device" so that whatever video I have running in a small or
> >> >> > minimised
> >> >> > screen
> >> >> > on the PC's monitor is rendered full-screen on my TV.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The problem:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > When a new video programme starts (either when playing the next
> >> > programme
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > the directory/playlist automatically or when I double-click the
next
> >> >> > programme I wish to watch), the output to the television screen
> >> >> > switches
> >> >> > first to the Windows desktop (as there is no video currently
playing
> > on
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > PC) and then after a second or so, as it starts to play the next
> > file,
> >> >> > back
> >> >> > as a full-screen device. This is normal.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > BUT as it switches back to a full-screen device for the next
> > programme,
> >> > at
> >> >> > the point when you'd expect the new programme to start playing,
the
> > PC
> >> >> > crashes.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This problem is intermittent. Sometimes it can happen after EVERY
> >> >> > programme,
> >> >> > sometimes I can view several in a row or stop and start a few
times
> >> >> > over
> >> > a
> >> >> > period of days before the same fault will occur. But it never
occurs
> >> > when
> >> >> > viewing the first programme after a reboot - I always get at least
> > one
> >> >> > programme's viewing.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This isn't the exception. I want to use the PC to capture video
from
> >> > VHS.
> >> >> > However this too leads to similar problems. I tried a Compro
capture
> >> > card
> >> >> > some months ago which often lead to crashes and, just this week,
> > after
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > clean reinstall of everything, I bought a Maxtor ConvertX external
> >> > capture
> >> >> > device (it encodes video into DivX on the fly, is an external box
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > connects via USB and is supplied with its own external power
supply,
> > so
> >> > it
> >> >> > doesn't take up a PCI slot). When I try to run the software for
> >> >> > this,
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > soon as I get to a video mode (something like trying to capture or
> > view
> >> >> > incoming video), the PC crashes.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Things I have tried which have not resolved the problem:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Complete O/S reinstall with minimal drivers/software on freshly
> >> > formatted
> >> >> > HD
> >> >> > Uninstall/reinstall video drivers
> >> >> > Uninstall/reinstall codecs
> >> >> > Reducing video acceleration
> >> >> > Run with case open and tons of cooling (I use Speedfan to monitor
> > temps
> >> > on
> >> >> > HDs, CPU etc and keep fan noise down and nothing ever goes above
50
> >> >> > degrees
> >> >> > anyway)
> >> >> > Tried one strip of each memory at a time to eliminate faulty strip
> >>