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Hi, I hope someone can help:
I have an ASUS P4b533-E motherboard and I have recently purchased a Serial
Ata drive and adpater, on bootup the Serial Adapter Bios does not run (which
I believe should occur similar to a SCSI adapter) I am hoping someone can
tell me if I need to alter anything in the BIOS). I believe the chipset on
the adapter is a VIA VT6421 though I cannot find any manufacturer marking on
it. I flashed my system BIOS to 1014 with no success.
The adapter looks like the one on ebuyer -
http://image.ebuyer.com/UK/P006675 [...] 000000.jpg if that helps at
all.
When gettng to the stage of installing the OS, the drive is not detected (I
assume this is because my system bios does not recognise my sata adapter and
thus doesn't know the drive is there.)

Many thx for any help you can offer
Stuart Palmer

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

There were no instructions included? differing manu. may have different
install procedures.
You need to create a Serial driver floppy disk
You may have to alter/set the boot order in the bios, to detect the adapter
When starting o/s installation there is an F6 option to install third party
drivers ( serial driver) if you miss this you will have to start again.
BTW It may be an idea, if installing o/s on the new serial, to disconnect
any other pata devices, other than cd, untill o/s installed - can avoid
problems with drive letters -




"Stuart Palmer" <tryandspamme@youcant.com> wrote in message
news:jGHae.5429$YF5.790@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> Hi, I hope someone can help:
> I have an ASUS P4b533-E motherboard and I have recently purchased a Serial
> Ata drive and adpater, on bootup the Serial Adapter Bios does not run
(which
> I believe should occur similar to a SCSI adapter) I am hoping someone can
> tell me if I need to alter anything in the BIOS). I believe the chipset on
> the adapter is a VIA VT6421 though I cannot find any manufacturer marking
on
> it. I flashed my system BIOS to 1014 with no success.
> The adapter looks like the one on ebuyer -
> http://image.ebuyer.com/UK/P006675 [...] 000000.jpg if that helps at
> all.
> When gettng to the stage of installing the OS, the drive is not detected
(I
> assume this is because my system bios does not recognise my sata adapter
and
> thus doesn't know the drive is there.)
>
> Many thx for any help you can offer
> Stuart Palmer
>
>

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

It may not have bios extensions and may not be bootable.
The image linked to is too small to tell, but it appears as though there is
only significant 1 IC on the card - bios rom's / eeprom's are normally
separate chips.

- Tim

"MrGrumpy" <dl@spoofmail.notme> wrote in message
news:7mJae.5453$YF5.377@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> There were no instructions included? differing manu. may have different
> install procedures.
> You need to create a Serial driver floppy disk
> You may have to alter/set the boot order in the bios, to detect the
> adapter
> When starting o/s installation there is an F6 option to install third
> party
> drivers ( serial driver) if you miss this you will have to start again.
> BTW It may be an idea, if installing o/s on the new serial, to disconnect
> any other pata devices, other than cd, untill o/s installed - can avoid
> problems with drive letters -
>
>
>
>
> "Stuart Palmer" <tryandspamme@youcant.com> wrote in message
> news:jGHae.5429$YF5.790@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
>> Hi, I hope someone can help:
>> I have an ASUS P4b533-E motherboard and I have recently purchased a
>> Serial
>> Ata drive and adpater, on bootup the Serial Adapter Bios does not run
> (which
>> I believe should occur similar to a SCSI adapter) I am hoping someone can
>> tell me if I need to alter anything in the BIOS). I believe the chipset
>> on
>> the adapter is a VIA VT6421 though I cannot find any manufacturer marking
> on
>> it. I flashed my system BIOS to 1014 with no success.
>> The adapter looks like the one on ebuyer -
>> http://image.ebuyer.com/UK/P006675 [...] 000000.jpg if that helps
>> at
>> all.
>> When gettng to the stage of installing the OS, the drive is not detected
> (I
>> assume this is because my system bios does not recognise my sata adapter
> and
>> thus doesn't know the drive is there.)
>>
>> Many thx for any help you can offer
>> Stuart Palmer
>>
>>
>
>

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

Tim,
There are two Sata connectors each side of the IDE one on the image
(Same as mine).
If the drive isn't 'Bootable' how do I get the machine to detect my new
drive? I have this HD I'm using now, with win2K on but when I have installed
thr drivers for the 'Raid controller' that is detected, and leave the card
in, the mahine hangs at the win2K bootup screen (with about 4 block to go) I
have the remove the SATA card and then it boots up fine.

From a conv I have had with a friend, usually the Sata adapter has an
onboard BIOS and that initiates after the system bios, but he suggested that
I may have to mess about with the BIOS, I set my primary Boot item as
'Other/onboard boot device' but still my new HDD isn't detected, i don't
know fi there are other items I need to switch in the main system bios for
my HDD.

Cheers for any more advice
Stu

"Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> wrote in message news4fqm4$v82$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> It may not have bios extensions and may not be bootable.
> The image linked to is too small to tell, but it appears as though there
is
> only significant 1 IC on the card - bios rom's / eeprom's are normally
> separate chips.
>
> - Tim
>
> "MrGrumpy" <dl@spoofmail.notme> wrote in message
> news:7mJae.5453$YF5.377@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> > There were no instructions included? differing manu. may have different
> > install procedures.
> > You need to create a Serial driver floppy disk
> > You may have to alter/set the boot order in the bios, to detect the
> > adapter
> > When starting o/s installation there is an F6 option to install third
> > party
> > drivers ( serial driver) if you miss this you will have to start again.
> > BTW It may be an idea, if installing o/s on the new serial, to
disconnect
> > any other pata devices, other than cd, untill o/s installed - can avoid
> > problems with drive letters -
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Stuart Palmer" <tryandspamme@youcant.com> wrote in message
> > news:jGHae.5429$YF5.790@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> >> Hi, I hope someone can help:
> >> I have an ASUS P4b533-E motherboard and I have recently purchased a
> >> Serial
> >> Ata drive and adpater, on bootup the Serial Adapter Bios does not run
> > (which
> >> I believe should occur similar to a SCSI adapter) I am hoping someone
can
> >> tell me if I need to alter anything in the BIOS). I believe the chipset
> >> on
> >> the adapter is a VIA VT6421 though I cannot find any manufacturer
marking
> > on
> >> it. I flashed my system BIOS to 1014 with no success.
> >> The adapter looks like the one on ebuyer -
> >> http://image.ebuyer.com/UK/P006675 [...] 000000.jpg if that helps
> >> at
> >> all.
> >> When gettng to the stage of installing the OS, the drive is not
detected
> > (I
> >> assume this is because my system bios does not recognise my sata
adapter
> > and
> >> thus doesn't know the drive is there.)
> >>
> >> Many thx for any help you can offer
> >> Stuart Palmer
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

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The Adapter may be identified as scsi on the mobo. bios
You might want to check your new adapter web site for updated driver, and
possibly updated firmware

"Stuart Palmer" <tryandspamme@youcant.com> wrote in message
news:hIKae.2640$395.966@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net...
> Tim,
> There are two Sata connectors each side of the IDE one on the image
> (Same as mine).
> If the drive isn't 'Bootable' how do I get the machine to detect my
new
> drive? I have this HD I'm using now, with win2K on but when I have
installed
> thr drivers for the 'Raid controller' that is detected, and leave the card
> in, the mahine hangs at the win2K bootup screen (with about 4 block to go)
I
> have the remove the SATA card and then it boots up fine.
>
> From a conv I have had with a friend, usually the Sata adapter has an
> onboard BIOS and that initiates after the system bios, but he suggested
that
> I may have to mess about with the BIOS, I set my primary Boot item as
> 'Other/onboard boot device' but still my new HDD isn't detected, i don't
> know fi there are other items I need to switch in the main system bios for
> my HDD.
>
> Cheers for any more advice
> Stu
>
> "Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news4fqm4$v82$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> > It may not have bios extensions and may not be bootable.
> > The image linked to is too small to tell, but it appears as though there
> is
> > only significant 1 IC on the card - bios rom's / eeprom's are normally
> > separate chips.
> >
> > - Tim
> >
> > "MrGrumpy" <dl@spoofmail.notme> wrote in message
> > news:7mJae.5453$YF5.377@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> > > There were no instructions included? differing manu. may have
different
> > > install procedures.
> > > You need to create a Serial driver floppy disk
> > > You may have to alter/set the boot order in the bios, to detect the
> > > adapter
> > > When starting o/s installation there is an F6 option to install third
> > > party
> > > drivers ( serial driver) if you miss this you will have to start
again.
> > > BTW It may be an idea, if installing o/s on the new serial, to
> disconnect
> > > any other pata devices, other than cd, untill o/s installed - can
avoid
> > > problems with drive letters -
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Stuart Palmer" <tryandspamme@youcant.com> wrote in message
> > > news:jGHae.5429$YF5.790@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> > >> Hi, I hope someone can help:
> > >> I have an ASUS P4b533-E motherboard and I have recently purchased a
> > >> Serial
> > >> Ata drive and adpater, on bootup the Serial Adapter Bios does not run
> > > (which
> > >> I believe should occur similar to a SCSI adapter) I am hoping someone
> can
> > >> tell me if I need to alter anything in the BIOS). I believe the
chipset
> > >> on
> > >> the adapter is a VIA VT6421 though I cannot find any manufacturer
> marking
> > > on
> > >> it. I flashed my system BIOS to 1014 with no success.
> > >> The adapter looks like the one on ebuyer -
> > >> http://image.ebuyer.com/UK/P006675 [...] 000000.jpg if that
helps
> > >> at
> > >> all.
> > >> When gettng to the stage of installing the OS, the drive is not
> detected
> > > (I
> > >> assume this is because my system bios does not recognise my sata
> adapter
> > > and
> > >> thus doesn't know the drive is there.)
> > >>
> > >> Many thx for any help you can offer
> > >> Stuart Palmer
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

If the controller is suitable then you should see the disc drive enumerated
at some time during the boot.For a pure SATA (IE non RAID) controller there
may be no configuration at all, no jumpers on the PCI card and everything
should just work - in this case the steps you are taking with the bios are
correct since jut 'cos you have one of these cards you may or may not want
to boot off it.

A bootable add-in controller has to provide a means for the BIOS to 'see' it
and so know to include it as an option for booting. This happens via the
BIOS extensions mentioned on the card (if they are there) - I read once that
they place a fingerprint in there own memory of hexadecimal 0xAA55 for the
bios to see and so to know to call an initialise function - this function
then hooks into the BIOS own Disc Boot code so it becomes included.

The 'least cost' controllers don't come with boot ability. They are intended
for use as add in cards for already running systems. They can be accessed
only by drivers installed at run time.

Do you have any other SATA ports on the system? If so I would use one of
those.

What is the make and model of the PCI card?

- Tim




"Stuart Palmer" <tryandspamme@youcant.com> wrote in message
news:hIKae.2640$395.966@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net...
> Tim,
> There are two Sata connectors each side of the IDE one on the image
> (Same as mine).
> If the drive isn't 'Bootable' how do I get the machine to detect my new
> drive? I have this HD I'm using now, with win2K on but when I have
> installed
> thr drivers for the 'Raid controller' that is detected, and leave the card
> in, the mahine hangs at the win2K bootup screen (with about 4 block to go)
> I
> have the remove the SATA card and then it boots up fine.
>
> From a conv I have had with a friend, usually the Sata adapter has an
> onboard BIOS and that initiates after the system bios, but he suggested
> that
> I may have to mess about with the BIOS, I set my primary Boot item as
> 'Other/onboard boot device' but still my new HDD isn't detected, i don't
> know fi there are other items I need to switch in the main system bios for
> my HDD.
>
> Cheers for any more advice
> Stu
>
> "Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
> news4fqm4$v82$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> It may not have bios extensions and may not be bootable.
>> The image linked to is too small to tell, but it appears as though there
> is
>> only significant 1 IC on the card - bios rom's / eeprom's are normally
>> separate chips.
>>
>> - Tim
>>
>> "MrGrumpy" <dl@spoofmail.notme> wrote in message
>> news:7mJae.5453$YF5.377@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
>> > There were no instructions included? differing manu. may have different
>> > install procedures.
>> > You need to create a Serial driver floppy disk
>> > You may have to alter/set the boot order in the bios, to detect the
>> > adapter
>> > When starting o/s installation there is an F6 option to install third
>> > party
>> > drivers ( serial driver) if you miss this you will have to start again.
>> > BTW It may be an idea, if installing o/s on the new serial, to
> disconnect
>> > any other pata devices, other than cd, untill o/s installed - can avoid
>> > problems with drive letters -
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Stuart Palmer" <tryandspamme@youcant.com> wrote in message
>> > news:jGHae.5429$YF5.790@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
>> >> Hi, I hope someone can help:
>> >> I have an ASUS P4b533-E motherboard and I have recently purchased a
>> >> Serial
>> >> Ata drive and adpater, on bootup the Serial Adapter Bios does not run
>> > (which
>> >> I believe should occur similar to a SCSI adapter) I am hoping someone
> can
>> >> tell me if I need to alter anything in the BIOS). I believe the
>> >> chipset
>> >> on
>> >> the adapter is a VIA VT6421 though I cannot find any manufacturer
> marking
>> > on
>> >> it. I flashed my system BIOS to 1014 with no success.
>> >> The adapter looks like the one on ebuyer -
>> >> http://image.ebuyer.com/UK/P006675 [...] 000000.jpg if that
>> >> helps
>> >> at
>> >> all.
>> >> When gettng to the stage of installing the OS, the drive is not
> detected
>> > (I
>> >> assume this is because my system bios does not recognise my sata
> adapter
>> > and
>> >> thus doesn't know the drive is there.)
>> >>
>> >> Many thx for any help you can offer
>> >> Stuart Palmer
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

In article <jGHae.5429$YF5.790@newsfe5-win.ntli.net>, "Stuart Palmer"
<tryandspamme@youcant.com> wrote:

> Hi, I hope someone can help:
> I have an ASUS P4b533-E motherboard and I have recently purchased a Serial
> Ata drive and adpater, on bootup the Serial Adapter Bios does not run (which
> I believe should occur similar to a SCSI adapter) I am hoping someone can
> tell me if I need to alter anything in the BIOS). I believe the chipset on
> the adapter is a VIA VT6421 though I cannot find any manufacturer marking on
> it. I flashed my system BIOS to 1014 with no success.
> The adapter looks like the one on ebuyer -
> http://image.ebuyer.com/UK/P006675 [...] 000000.jpg if that helps at
> all.
> When gettng to the stage of installing the OS, the drive is not detected (I
> assume this is because my system bios does not recognise my sata adapter and
> thus doesn't know the drive is there.)
>
> Many thx for any help you can offer
> Stuart Palmer

I have read a number of posts complaining about the
issue of adding a third party controller and trying to
boot from it. When RAID BIOSs load early in the POST process,
they use low memory. Apparently there are some pretty tight
limits and what that can mean, is when a third party card is
added to a system, there might not be enough low memory for the
add-in card BIOS to load.

To test this theory, you could try disabling any existing
RAID controller(s) in the system, so that your new card is
the only one attempting to load a BIOS. Over on forums.2cpu.com
where using controller cards is quite common, usually only
the boot disk controller is the only controller card that
has its BIOS enabled. Non-boot disks work fine, as long as
they get a driver loaded via the OS.

Some motherboards have an entry in the BIOS called "INT 19
capture", which is really nothing other than INT 0x13 (Asus
uses 19 decimal notation in the manual, while everyone else
uses 0x13 hexidecimal when talking about INTxx). INT13 services
are apparently what is used when the OS wants the BIOS to
read sectors for it. That should be one of the things that
a RAID BIOS does, as well as providing a GUI interface for
setting up disks at the BIOS level. For example, if you had
a striped boot volume, the RAID BIOS would know the layout
of the two disks, and would fetch the data from the right
area of each disk during the boot process.

So, the only thing I can suggest, is disabling the PDC20276
via the jumper on the board, and then see if the VT6421
RAID BIOS loads. Since your motherboard doesn't appear
to have an "INT 19 capture" option, I don't see any option
that might stop the VT6421 BIOS from loading.

The second post in this thread gives some details on what
devices chew up low memory. I didn't realize so many
device types are responsible:

http://forums.2cpu.com/showthread. [...] +scsi+bios

"Why doesn't the BIOS (Option ROM) for my PCI device show
during boot up?

The cause of the problem is that in order to be PC Compatible,
the Option Rom space is limited to 128K. this is true for any
motherboard with PC compatible BIOS'.

In the common configurations, a newer AGP card (such as any
GeForce4) will require 64K of Option Rom space, so you have only
64K of Option Rom space left to work with for other devices.
Many SCSI , NIC (w/ PXE), IDE Raid and etc., can easily use
another 40 to 64K of Option Rom space for their needs.

By design the Option Rom should shrink down to a smaller run
time code after the initialization code has run. For example,
some Adaptec cards will require 32K to initialize. Then they
shrink down to 12K at run time; whereas some GeForce4 cards
require 64K to initialize and never release to a smaller
amount. Please check with the device manufacturer for the
latest firmware upgrade or ask if they have a smaller Option
Rom available. Again this is a limitation of the PC compatible
specification and not a failure of the motherboard BIOS
itself."

The shrink down thing may mean, that if you have several controller
cards, the slot position each one occupies may play a part in
whether the (dynamically changing) memory map of that 128K area
allows enough space for all "option ROM" to load. If the PDC20276
was given an address decode somewhere in the "middle" of the
PCI slots, then the slot position of your adapter would have made
a difference. However, I don't think motherboards are typically
set up that way - onboard chips are likely outside the slot space,
with an address decode lower than or higher than, all the PCI slot
connectors. Which means, no matter how much you move a PCI card
around, its enumeration order might not change with respect to a
fixed chip like the PDC20276.

If you make any progress, please post back, as I get to read
very few success stories when this problem happens.

HTH,
Paul

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On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:40:13 GMT, "Stuart Palmer"
<tryandspamme@youcant.com> wrote:

>Tim,
> There are two Sata connectors each side of the IDE one on the image
>(Same as mine).
> If the drive isn't 'Bootable' how do I get the machine to detect my new
>drive? I have this HD I'm using now, with win2K on but when I have installed
>thr drivers for the 'Raid controller' that is detected, and leave the card
>in, the mahine hangs at the win2K bootup screen (with about 4 block to go) I
>have the remove the SATA card and then it boots up fine.

A little clarification please. In your original post, you stated that
you were trying to install an OS, but you didn't tell us what you're
really trying to do with this card and drive. Did you mean that you
were trying to REinstall Windows 2K or were you trying to install a
second OS for dual boot?

Also, if you're trying to install an OS (as you said), Mr.Grumpy
already pointed out the fact that you need to hit F6 and feed that
driver disk to the setup program, but you never told us if you'd tried
that.

If there's a "'Raid controller' that is detected," and you've
installed a driver, have you, in fact, created an array of any kind?

What's the brand and model of the card? Have you checked the
manufacturer's Web site for a new driver and to make sure it's
compatible with your MB, Windows 2K, your SATA drive, and to see if
they've an updated driver?

Lastly, you've stated that the new controller card's BIOS doesn't
install, but you haven't stated that the drive is never recognized
during POST. Is the drive, in fact, totally unrecognized, even before
you get into Windows 2K? You mentioned that there is RAID controller
recognized; WHERE is it recognized, in the POST or in the OS?
>
>From a conv I have had with a friend, usually the Sata adapter has an
>onboard BIOS and that initiates after the system bios, but he suggested that
>I may have to mess about with the BIOS, I set my primary Boot item as
>'Other/onboard boot device' but still my new HDD isn't detected, i don't
>know fi there are other items I need to switch in the main system bios for
>my HDD.
>
>Cheers for any more advice
>Stu
>
>"Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> wrote in message news4fqm4$v82$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> It may not have bios extensions and may not be bootable.
>> The image linked to is too small to tell, but it appears as though there
>is
>> only significant 1 IC on the card - bios rom's / eeprom's are normally
>> separate chips.
>>
>> - Tim
>>
>> "MrGrumpy" <dl@spoofmail.notme> wrote in message
>> news:7mJae.5453$YF5.377@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
>> > There were no instructions included? differing manu. may have different
>> > install procedures.
>> > You need to create a Serial driver floppy disk
>> > You may have to alter/set the boot order in the bios, to detect the
>> > adapter
>> > When starting o/s installation there is an F6 option to install third
>> > party
>> > drivers ( serial driver) if you miss this you will have to start again.
>> > BTW It may be an idea, if installing o/s on the new serial, to
>disconnect
>> > any other pata devices, other than cd, untill o/s installed - can avoid
>> > problems with drive letters -
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Stuart Palmer" <tryandspamme@youcant.com> wrote in message
>> > news:jGHae.5429$YF5.790@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
>> >> Hi, I hope someone can help:
>> >> I have an ASUS P4b533-E motherboard and I have recently purchased a
>> >> Serial
>> >> Ata drive and adpater, on bootup the Serial Adapter Bios does not run
>> > (which
>> >> I believe should occur similar to a SCSI adapter) I am hoping someone
>can
>> >> tell me if I need to alter anything in the BIOS). I believe the chipset
>> >> on
>> >> the adapter is a VIA VT6421 though I cannot find any manufacturer
>marking
>> > on
>> >> it. I flashed my system BIOS to 1014 with no success.
>> >> The adapter looks like the one on ebuyer -
>> >> http://image.ebuyer.com/UK/P006675 [...] 000000.jpg if that helps
>> >> at
>> >> all.
>> >> When gettng to the stage of installing the OS, the drive is not
>detected
>> > (I
>> >> assume this is because my system bios does not recognise my sata
>adapter
>> > and
>> >> thus doesn't know the drive is there.)
>> >>
>> >> Many thx for any help you can offer
>> >> Stuart Palmer
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>

Ron

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There are instructions on the cd (but no manual) in a readme.txt file of
which here it below:

----------------
2. Install Windows NT 4.0, 2000, XP, or Server 2003
* Copy all files and directories from the DriverDisk folder to a
floppy disk.
Make sure the following directories and files are copied into the
floppy disk.
A:\
\2003IA32
VIAsprid.inf
VIAsprid.sys
VIAsprid.cat
\Win2000
VIAsprid.inf
VIAsprid.sys
VIAsprid.cat
\Winnt40
VIAsprid.inf
VIAsprid.sys
\WinXP
VIAsprid.inf
VIAsprid.sys
VIAsprid.cat
Txtsetup.oem
VT6421

* Boot system from OS installing CD-ROM.
* Make sure VT6421 BIOS is executed by the system BIOS when POST.
* Press "F6" when OS installer starts running.
* Insert floppy disk.
* Choose the OS device driver wanted for loading.
* Install OS.
* Install RAID utility after OS is installed.

------------------
Everything is fine except the 'Make sure VT6421 BIOS is executed by the
system BIOS when POST.' This is what I don't think is happening and I'm
hoping it's a setting in my ASUS bios to make this action occur.

TIA for any more suggestions
Stu

"MrGrumpy" <dl@spoofmail.notme> wrote in message
news:7mJae.5453$YF5.377@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> There were no instructions included? differing manu. may have different
> install procedures.
> You need to create a Serial driver floppy disk
> You may have to alter/set the boot order in the bios, to detect the
adapter
> When starting o/s installation there is an F6 option to install third
party
> drivers ( serial driver) if you miss this you will have to start again.
> BTW It may be an idea, if installing o/s on the new serial, to disconnect
> any other pata devices, other than cd, untill o/s installed - can avoid
> problems with drive letters -
>
>
>
>
> "Stuart Palmer" <tryandspamme@youcant.com> wrote in message
> news:jGHae.5429$YF5.790@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> > Hi, I hope someone can help:
> > I have an ASUS P4b533-E motherboard and I have recently purchased a
Serial
> > Ata drive and adpater, on bootup the Serial Adapter Bios does not run
> (which
> > I believe should occur similar to a SCSI adapter) I am hoping someone
can
> > tell me if I need to alter anything in the BIOS). I believe the chipset
on
> > the adapter is a VIA VT6421 though I cannot find any manufacturer
marking
> on
> > it. I flashed my system BIOS to 1014 with no success.
> > The adapter looks like the one on ebuyer -
> > http://image.ebuyer.com/UK/P006675 [...] 000000.jpg if that helps
at
> > all.
> > When gettng to the stage of installing the OS, the drive is not detected
> (I
> > assume this is because my system bios does not recognise my sata adapter
> and
> > thus doesn't know the drive is there.)
> >
> > Many thx for any help you can offer
> > Stuart Palmer
> >
> >
>
>

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

Thx Milleron, I'll try to give more info.

Task - Trying to upgrade to winXP (so after I have completed this will
reformat the win2K drive for storage).

When Hitting F6 during the install procedure I can select my raid
controlelr, but then xp installer doesn't display my new drive.
I haven't created an array, I have no idea how to do this.
I also have no idea of the brand of the card, but visually appears to be the
same as the ebuyer image I stated earlier (which indicate it's a microsol
one (on ebuyers site), however, the chip set and driver disk that came
withit indicates it's an VIA VT6421. When I initially booted up in win2k
with this card in, it detected it, I installed thr driver, but now the
machine hangs during the bootup process at the win2K screen (Just trying
different ways to get it to work).

I can't find the new 120gb western digital (WD1200JD) drive being detected
this is what my initial post was about, I imagine I should get a BIOS sata
drive detection message on the screen that detects the drive, I think this
is what is not happening, thus causing all my other problems (i.e drive not
being foudn in XP installtion process even though I have selected the 3rd
party driver.

Does this information help at all? I am totally stuck now. If I try to run
the machine up in win2K with the driver installed, the machine hangs, if I
just try to install XP on this new Sata drive the machine doesn't detect it,
but the fact that win2K detected the card makes me think the cardis working,
just not initallising properly when initially booting.

Cheers for your help with this one,
Stu





"milleron" <millerdot90@SPAMlessosu.edu> wrote in message
newsg4n619o5tnh1gvbn408bm35238b0b97ts@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:40:13 GMT, "Stuart Palmer"
> <tryandspamme@youcant.com> wrote:
>
> >Tim,
> > There are two Sata connectors each side of the IDE one on the image
> >(Same as mine).
> > If the drive isn't 'Bootable' how do I get the machine to detect my
new
> >drive? I have this HD I'm using now, with win2K on but when I have
installed
> >thr drivers for the 'Raid controller' that is detected, and leave the
card
> >in, the mahine hangs at the win2K bootup screen (with about 4 block to
go) I
> >have the remove the SATA card and then it boots up fine.
>
> A little clarification please. In your original post, you stated that
> you were trying to install an OS, but you didn't tell us what you're
> really trying to do with this card and drive. Did you mean that you
> were trying to REinstall Windows 2K or were you trying to install a
> second OS for dual boot?
>
> Also, if you're trying to install an OS (as you said), Mr.Grumpy
> already pointed out the fact that you need to hit F6 and feed that
> driver disk to the setup program, but you never told us if you'd tried
> that.
>
> If there's a "'Raid controller' that is detected," and you've
> installed a driver, have you, in fact, created an array of any kind?
>
> What's the brand and model of the card? Have you checked the
> manufacturer's Web site for a new driver and to make sure it's
> compatible with your MB, Windows 2K, your SATA drive, and to see if
> they've an updated driver?
>
> Lastly, you've stated that the new controller card's BIOS doesn't
> install, but you haven't stated that the drive is never recognized
> during POST. Is the drive, in fact, totally unrecognized, even before
> you get into Windows 2K? You mentioned that there is RAID controller
> recognized; WHERE is it recognized, in the POST or in the OS?
> >
> >From a conv I have had with a friend, usually the Sata adapter has an
> >onboard BIOS and that initiates after the system bios, but he suggested
that
> >I may have to mess about with the BIOS, I set my primary Boot item as
> >'Other/onboard boot device' but still my new HDD isn't detected, i don't
> >know fi there are other items I need to switch in the main system bios
for
> >my HDD.
> >
> >Cheers for any more advice
> >Stu
> >
> >"Tim" <Tim@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news4fqm4$v82$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> >> It may not have bios extensions and may not be bootable.
> >> The image linked to is too small to tell, but it appears as though
there
> >is
> >> only significant 1 IC on the card - bios rom's / eeprom's are normally
> >> separate chips.
> >>
> >> - Tim
> >>
> >> "MrGrumpy" <dl@spoofmail.notme> wrote in message
> >> news:7mJae.5453$YF5.377@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> >> > There were no instructions included? differing manu. may have
different
> >> > install procedures.
> >> > You need to create a Serial driver floppy disk
> >> > You may have to alter/set the boot order in the bios, to detect the
> >> > adapter
> >> > When starting o/s installation there is an F6 option to install third
> >> > party
> >> > drivers ( serial driver) if you miss this you will have to start
again.
> >> > BTW It may be an idea, if installing o/s on the new serial, to
> >disconnect
> >> > any other pata devices, other than cd, untill o/s installed - can
avoid
> >> > problems with drive letters -
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Stuart Palmer" <tryandspamme@youcant.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:jGHae.5429$YF5.790@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> >> >> Hi, I hope someone can help:
> >> >> I have an ASUS P4b533-E motherboard and I have recently purchased a
> >> >> Serial
> >> >> Ata drive and adpater, on bootup the Serial Adapter Bios does not
run
> >> > (which
> >> >> I believe should occur similar to a SCSI adapter) I am hoping
someone
> >can
> >> >> tell me if I need to alter anything in the BIOS). I believe the
chipset
> >> >> on
> >> >> the adapter is a VIA VT6421 though I cannot find any manufacturer
> >marking
> >> > on
> >> >> it. I flashed my system BIOS to 1014 with no success.
> >> >> The adapter looks like the one on ebuyer -
> >> >> http://image.ebuyer.com/UK/P006675 [...] 000000.jpg if that
helps
> >> >> at
> >> >> all.
> >> >> When gettng to the stage of installing the OS, the drive is not
> >detected
> >> > (I
> >> >> assume this is because my system bios does not recognise my sata
> >adapter
> >> > and
> >> >> thus doesn't know the drive is there.)
> >> >>
> >> >> Many thx for any help you can offer
> >> >> Stuart Palmer
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
>
> Ron