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As most people may have read, the 4gb Microdrive from the Creative
Muvo is able to be extracted and used in other devices.. namely my
iPAQ 2210.

I successfully took one out and have been using it in my PDA for the
past month or so without any problems. Apart from getting it back out
again!

I read somewhere that someone said they stuck a bit of plastic or
something to the end so they could get a fingernail under it to pull
the microdrive out so thought I'd give it a try.

Firstly, the bit of plastic i planned to use would not stick to the
white sticker covering the microdrive, so i thought I'd cut a small
bit away to give the plastic a bit of metal to stick to. It looks
like the sticker is some sort of shielding as it's silver backed..
Anyway to cut a long story short, the thing never did stick, but my
microdrive did stop working. I noticed there were a couple of small
slots (smaller than a pin head width) at the top of the drive, and am
now wondering if perhaps the super glue fumes possibly got into the
drive and stuffed it somehow or whether me trying to pry the drive out
of the ipaq could have done the damage?.. I havent penetrated the
casing or anything so don't see how i could have pysically damaged the
drive?!

Needless to say, I can no longer read the drive in the ipaq or the
card reader, cant format it, can't create partitions or remove any etc
etc
Tried 7 Tools PArtition Manager and no luck.

The card reader tries to acess the drive, and i can hear it spinning
up etc but it just has no luck reading the damn thing.

Short of pulling the thing apart, does anyone have any suggestions
(besides binning it, even though it'll probably come to that) or have
any idea whether the tiny bit of super glue I used could have somehow
damaged it?? Maybe static???

Any thoughts appreciated.

Thanks

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You're supposed to apply the tape onto the flat side of the microdrive
BEFORE you insert the microdrive - taping the edge would never give you
enough surface area. It's not very reliable in any event - the tape tends
to break after a few uses. I'd be very surprised if you ever got the
microdrive functioning again. Superglue is extremely fluid, and undoubtedly
jammed the works, although cutting the edge of the microdrive probably
wrecked the alignment.




"Cameron_S" <mr_mytzlplik@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:71fe4155.0406042212.1543d353@posting.google.com...
> As most people may have read, the 4gb Microdrive from the Creative
> Muvo is able to be extracted and used in other devices.. namely my
> iPAQ 2210.
>
> I successfully took one out and have been using it in my PDA for the
> past month or so without any problems. Apart from getting it back out
> again!
>
> I read somewhere that someone said they stuck a bit of plastic or
> something to the end so they could get a fingernail under it to pull
> the microdrive out so thought I'd give it a try.
>
> Firstly, the bit of plastic i planned to use would not stick to the
> white sticker covering the microdrive, so i thought I'd cut a small
> bit away to give the plastic a bit of metal to stick to. It looks
> like the sticker is some sort of shielding as it's silver backed..
> Anyway to cut a long story short, the thing never did stick, but my
> microdrive did stop working. I noticed there were a couple of small
> slots (smaller than a pin head width) at the top of the drive, and am
> now wondering if perhaps the super glue fumes possibly got into the
> drive and stuffed it somehow or whether me trying to pry the drive out
> of the ipaq could have done the damage?.. I havent penetrated the
> casing or anything so don't see how i could have pysically damaged the
> drive?!
>
> Needless to say, I can no longer read the drive in the ipaq or the
> card reader, cant format it, can't create partitions or remove any etc
> etc
> Tried 7 Tools PArtition Manager and no luck.
>
> The card reader tries to acess the drive, and i can hear it spinning
> up etc but it just has no luck reading the damn thing.
>
> Short of pulling the thing apart, does anyone have any suggestions
> (besides binning it, even though it'll probably come to that) or have
> any idea whether the tiny bit of super glue I used could have somehow
> damaged it?? Maybe static???
>
> Any thoughts appreciated.
>
> Thanks

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"Cameron_S" <mr_mytzlplik@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:71fe4155.0406042212.1543d353@posting.google.com...
> As most people may have read, the 4gb Microdrive from the Creative
> Muvo is able to be extracted and used in other devices.. namely my
> iPAQ 2210.
>
> I successfully took one out and have been using it in my PDA for the
> past month or so without any problems. Apart from getting it back out
> again!
>
> I read somewhere that someone said they stuck a bit of plastic or
> something to the end so they could get a fingernail under it to pull
> the microdrive out so thought I'd give it a try.
>
> Firstly, the bit of plastic i planned to use would not stick to the
> white sticker covering the microdrive, so i thought I'd cut a small
> bit away to give the plastic a bit of metal to stick to. It looks
> like the sticker is some sort of shielding as it's silver backed..
> Anyway to cut a long story short, the thing never did stick, but my
> microdrive did stop working. I noticed there were a couple of small
> slots (smaller than a pin head width) at the top of the drive, and am
> now wondering if perhaps the super glue fumes possibly got into the
> drive and stuffed it somehow or whether me trying to pry the drive out
> of the ipaq could have done the damage?.. I havent penetrated the
> casing or anything so don't see how i could have pysically damaged the
> drive?!
>

Not everthing has to be inside a casing.
Maybe the 'silver' paper isn't silver paper. Maybe it carries data or signal
tracks.
You may not be able to see how you've damaged the drive, but stop and think.
You *have* damaged the drive.

> Needless to say, I can no longer read the drive in the ipaq or the
> card reader, cant format it, can't create partitions or remove any etc
> etc
> Tried 7 Tools PArtition Manager and no luck.
>
> The card reader tries to acess the drive, and i can hear it spinning
> up etc but it just has no luck reading the damn thing.
>

That is power to the drive motor, not necasarily data or positioning
signals. Perhaps the signals are sent by a different route to the data /
positioning signals.

> Short of pulling the thing apart, does anyone have any suggestions
> (besides binning it, even though it'll probably come to that) or have
> any idea whether the tiny bit of super glue I used could have somehow
> damaged it?? Maybe static???


You've decided it's the glue? Maybe, maybe not.
Why not email the maker and ask? You may get a positive response, although I
wouldn't rely on that following self inflicted physical damage.

Bin it, or send it for repair. I doubt cutting the casing would be warranty
though.

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hmm.. funny enough, it actually started working again for about 5
mins. I was able to see it again in exporer, and also copy some files
across. Copied about 5 albums across no worries, then when it got to
the 6th the time remaining kept getting higher and higher from about
30 seconds up to 160mins.
I figured the drive had locked up or something so i cancelled.

Ran 7tools Partition manager again, and it could see it and let me
create the partititon again and format no worries.. but the surface
test then gets stuck part way through, and again I can't see my drive
in my card reader..

I dont know whats going on with this thing.. one second its there, the
next its not.

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"Cameron_S" <mr_mytzlplik@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> hmm.. funny enough, it actually started working again for about 5
> mins. I was able to see it again in exporer, and also copy some files
> across. Copied about 5 albums across no worries, then when it got to
> the 6th the time remaining kept getting higher and higher from about
> 30 seconds up to 160mins.
> I figured the drive had locked up or something so i cancelled.
>
> Ran 7tools Partition manager again, and it could see it and let me
> create the partititon again and format no worries.. but the surface
> test then gets stuck part way through, and again I can't see my drive
> in my card reader..
>
> I dont know whats going on with this thing.. one second its there, the
> next its not.

Unreliable storage media is worse than no
storage media at all.

Scrap it before you *depend* on it and
it fails again.

Chalk it up to a "learning experience".

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dude you obviously deformed the shell and made a bunch bad sectors.

Cameron_S wrote:


> hmm.. funny enough, it actually started working again for about 5
> mins. I was able to see it again in exporer, and also copy some files
> across. Copied about 5 albums across no worries, then when it got to
> the 6th the time remaining kept getting higher and higher from about
> 30 seconds up to 160mins.
> I figured the drive had locked up or something so i cancelled.

> Ran 7tools Partition manager again, and it could see it and let me
> create the partititon again and format no worries.. but the surface
> test then gets stuck part way through, and again I can't see my drive
> in my card reader..

> I dont know whats going on with this thing.. one second its there, the
> next its not.