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They had several Hi-Def tv's on display at the local WalMart, they were
playing Disney's Alladin on them. I noticed on all of them, there was a
noticeable jaggedness along all the edges. None of them looked as good to me
as a decent analog TV. I also noticed that some of the models looked like
rear-projection units, and had the same problem as other non-HiDef rear
projection tv's, that the image darkens at the edges and you have to be
directly in front of it to get any kind of decent image.

Are these just a bad example of hi-def?

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"Doc" <docsavage20@xhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> They had several Hi-Def tv's on display at the local WalMart, they were
> playing Disney's Alladin on them. I noticed on all of them, there was a
> noticeable jaggedness along all the edges. None of them looked as good to
> me
> as a decent analog TV. I also noticed that some of the models looked like
> rear-projection units, and had the same problem as other non-HiDef rear
> projection tv's, that the image darkens at the edges and you have to be
> directly in front of it to get any kind of decent image.
>
> Are these just a bad example of hi-def?
>
>

Yes.

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The video on the Disney DVD is 720x480, not Hi-Def at all. It is being
stretched to filll the 1280x720 screen, which is about the highest you can
get other than a few models that output 1366x768. The only way to judge
whether these are good displays would be to see actual Hi-Def video on them.


"Doc" <docsavage20@xhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> They had several Hi-Def tv's on display at the local WalMart, they were
> playing Disney's Alladin on them. I noticed on all of them, there was a
> noticeable jaggedness along all the edges. None of them looked as good to
> me
> as a decent analog TV. I also noticed that some of the models looked like
> rear-projection units, and had the same problem as other non-HiDef rear
> projection tv's, that the image darkens at the edges and you have to be
> directly in front of it to get any kind of decent image.
>
> Are these just a bad example of hi-def?
>
>

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:19:39 -0400, Doc wrote
(in article <%Vg7e.6470$sp3.3742@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> ):

> They had several Hi-Def tv's on display at the local WalMart, they were
> playing Disney's Alladin on them. I noticed on all of them, there was a
> noticeable jaggedness along all the edges. None of them looked as good to me
> as a decent analog TV. I also noticed that some of the models looked like
> rear-projection units, and had the same problem as other non-HiDef rear
> projection tv's, that the image darkens at the edges and you have to be
> directly in front of it to get any kind of decent image.
>
> Are these just a bad example of hi-def?
>
>

Yes. Good HD is rather amazing. I've had a 16x9 glass WEGA Sony since just
before the Utah Winter Olympics. That was two years ago. I wouldn't trust
Walmart to know what to do.

Regards,

Ty Ford

PS Be sure you get an HDTV (with tuner) instead of an "HD Ready" (no tuner)
set, unless you want to spend more for a tuner.




-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com

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Ty Ford wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:19:39 -0400, Doc wrote
> (in article <%Vg7e.6470$sp3.3742@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> ):
>
>
>>They had several Hi-Def tv's on display at the local WalMart, they were
>>playing Disney's Alladin on them. I noticed on all of them, there was a
>>noticeable jaggedness along all the edges. None of them looked as good to me
>>as a decent analog TV. I also noticed that some of the models looked like
>>rear-projection units, and had the same problem as other non-HiDef rear
>>projection tv's, that the image darkens at the edges and you have to be
>>directly in front of it to get any kind of decent image.
>>
>>Are these just a bad example of hi-def?
>>
>>
>
>
> Yes. Good HD is rather amazing. I've had a 16x9 glass WEGA Sony since just
> before the Utah Winter Olympics. That was two years ago. I wouldn't trust
> Walmart to know what to do.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ty Ford
>
> PS Be sure you get an HDTV (with tuner) instead of an "HD Ready" (no tuner)
> set, unless you want to spend more for a tuner.
>
>
>
>
> -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
> stuff are at www.tyford.com
>


Most stores don't have HD feed, just DVD (Lo-Fi) and animation is the
worse (sharp edges) to showcase HD. BestBuy used to have HD Discovery
Channel. That would be the place to see it for yourself if they still
have it.

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:19:39 GMT, "Doc" <docsavage20@xhotmail.com>
wrote:

>They had several Hi-Def tv's on display at the local WalMart, they were
>playing Disney's Alladin on them. I noticed on all of them, there was a
>noticeable jaggedness along all the edges. None of them looked as good to me
>as a decent analog TV. I also noticed that some of the models looked like
>rear-projection units, and had the same problem as other non-HiDef rear
>projection tv's, that the image darkens at the edges and you have to be
>directly in front of it to get any kind of decent image.
>
>Are these just a bad example of hi-def?

Yeah, they are. First of all, the only rear projection HD
set I've seen that comes vaguely close to a good picture is the Sony
Grand Wega, and I doubt WalMart was showing one of those off. Second,
DVDs aren't an HD source, so you have to scale them up to HD
resolutions. Third, very often the stores have set up their DVD
players for display on a 3:4 set, so the 16:9 sets are showing a
zoomed in, low res picture. Finally, I'll lay odds that the store DVD
player isn't outputting a progressive picture, so that leaves the TV
to deinterlace a low res image AND zoom in on it. The results can
look pretty awful.

The long and the short of it is you need to see an actual HD
signal on an HD set in order to judge how good it looks.

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Neil Nadelman arvy@navzr-genafyngbe.pbz (ROT13)
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I have no fears in life,
for I have already survived Theta-G!

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"Neil Nadelman" <arvy@navzr-genafyngbe.pbz (ROT13)> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:19:39 GMT, "Doc" <docsavage20@xhotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>They had several Hi-Def tv's on display at the local WalMart, they were
>>playing Disney's Alladin on them. I noticed on all of them, there was a
>>noticeable jaggedness along all the edges. None of them looked as good to
>>me
>>as a decent analog TV. I also noticed that some of the models looked like
>>rear-projection units, and had the same problem as other non-HiDef rear
>>projection tv's, that the image darkens at the edges and you have to be
>>directly in front of it to get any kind of decent image.
>>
>>Are these just a bad example of hi-def?
>
> Yeah, they are. First of all, the only rear projection HD
> set I've seen that comes vaguely close to a good picture is the Sony
> Grand Wega, and I doubt WalMart was showing one of those off. Second,
> DVDs aren't an HD source, so you have to scale them up to HD
> resolutions. Third, very often the stores have set up their DVD
> players for display on a 3:4 set, so the 16:9 sets are showing a
> zoomed in, low res picture. Finally, I'll lay odds that the store DVD
> player isn't outputting a progressive picture, so that leaves the TV
> to deinterlace a low res image AND zoom in on it. The results can
> look pretty awful.
>
> The long and the short of it is you need to see an actual HD
> signal on an HD set in order to judge how good it looks.
>

So true. I just bought the Hitachi 32"LCD HDTV. And I had NO IDEA what it
looked like until I got it home. The picture at every store was horrible,
and some places.. well I have no idea how they sold any TVs.. so I just
read up on it and patiently researched it until I had the information I
needed to try it out. It looks awesome with DV and fantastic with HD.

This unit has a media box, which made interfacing with my edit suite patch
bay easy.







> -----------------------------------------------------
> Neil Nadelman arvy@navzr-genafyngbe.pbz (ROT13)
> -----------------------------------------------------
> I have no fears in life,
> for I have already survived Theta-G!

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In article <%Vg7e.6470$sp3.3742@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
docsavage20@xhotmail.com says...
> Subject: Dubious about hi-def TV
> From: "Doc" <docsavage20@xhotmail.com>
> Newsgroups: rec.video.desktop
>
> They had several Hi-Def tv's on display at the local WalMart, they were
> playing Disney's Alladin on them. I noticed on all of them, there was a
> noticeable jaggedness along all the edges. None of them looked as good to me
> as a decent analog TV. I also noticed that some of the models looked like
> rear-projection units, and had the same problem as other non-HiDef rear
> projection tv's, that the image darkens at the edges and you have to be
> directly in front of it to get any kind of decent image.
>
> Are these just a bad example of hi-def?
>
>
>

If I may generalize about Walmart, and I am required to by law, I have
seen what Walmart calls high end and it is always made by the lowest
Chinese bidder, so I wouldn't expect it to be a good example.
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