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I am looking to take an old system and turn it into a video server
running Beyond TV and 3 or 4 TV tuners.

Has anyone else done this yet? I thought the TV tuner had to be
connected to the sound card in order to record sound. Obviously you can
only connect one card to Line In, so what about the others?

I'm looking for a recommendation on a cheap TV tuner that has hardware
MPG encoding. So far I'm looking at the WinTV PVR 150 for $60 each.
Any other recomendations?

Thanks!

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Dave Navarro wrote:
> I am looking to take an old system and turn it into a video server
> running Beyond TV and 3 or 4 TV tuners.
>
> Has anyone else done this yet? I thought the TV tuner had to be
> connected to the sound card in order to record sound. Obviously you can
> only connect one card to Line In, so what about the others?
>
> I'm looking for a recommendation on a cheap TV tuner that has hardware
> MPG encoding. So far I'm looking at the WinTV PVR 150 for $60 each.
> Any other recomendations?
>
> Thanks!


Sapphire Theater 550 Pro - $85

The ATI Theater 550 Pro chip rocks. video and sound pass through PCI
bus. No cables needed.

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Dave,

I have an AMD K6 500 256mb ram 4 gig system drive 80 gig cature drive
running BTV 4.5 slow slow sytem but it works very well as a recoder
it is too slow to play back. It sits in a closet connected to the
cable and records my shows i use the web interface for doing the
scheduling and upkeep. then play back using anohter PC or my
Hauppauge media MVP

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In article <1110997053.450502.128110@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
josh@starsick.com says...
> Dave,
>
> I have an AMD K6 500 256mb ram 4 gig system drive 80 gig cature drive
> running BTV 4.5 slow slow sytem but it works very well as a recoder
> it is too slow to play back. It sits in a closet connected to the
> cable and records my shows i use the web interface for doing the
> scheduling and upkeep. then play back using anohter PC or my
> Hauppauge media MVP

Thanks! I have an old system that I can reconfigure and put two or
three PVR cards in it to record shows. I can then just copy the
recorded shows to my PC to play them or burn them to VCD/DVD if I want
to keep anything.

I emailed Hauppauge and was pleasantly surprised to get a fairly quickly
response from their sales people telling me that the sound does not go
through the sound card any more for recording.

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>I emailed Hauppauge and was pleasantly surprised to get a fairly quickly
>response from their sales people telling me that the sound does not go
>through the sound card any more for recording.

Question.....

Does Hauppauge have a PCI Express version of their PVR
card yet?

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In article <9luh31ta00imk4i2vc81132q69qd7usj0m@4ax.com>, me@privacy.net
says...
> >I emailed Hauppauge and was pleasantly surprised to get a fairly quickly
> >response from their sales people telling me that the sound does not go
> >through the sound card any more for recording.
>
> Question.....
>
> Does Hauppauge have a PCI Express version of their PVR
> card yet?

Not that I have seen. Although since it's not a "video card", I don't
see why they would make a PCI Express version. Not many systems have
more than one PCI Express slot from what I've read.

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>Not that I have seen. Although since it's not a "video card", I don't
>see why they would make a PCI Express version. Not many systems have
>more than one PCI Express slot from what I've read.

Im wanting to put a Hauupage TV and PVR card in Dell
470 which is typically used as a computer aided
drafting "workstation.

Do you think the Hauppuage card will be ok in the Dell
470?

Here is link on 470 specs

http://tinyurl.com/5kvxf

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In article <a3lo319pqosrj45tjdc2m830o945b74fec@4ax.com>, me@privacy.net
says...
> >Not that I have seen. Although since it's not a "video card", I don't
> >see why they would make a PCI Express version. Not many systems have
> >more than one PCI Express slot from what I've read.
>
> Im wanting to put a Hauupage TV and PVR card in Dell
> 470 which is typically used as a computer aided
> drafting "workstation.
>
> Do you think the Hauppuage card will be ok in the Dell
> 470?

Yes. I work at Dell and I asked one of our engineers. He said the
Hauppauge card should work fine.

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>> Do you think the Hauppuage card will be ok in the Dell
>> 470?
>
>Yes. I work at Dell and I asked one of our engineers. He said the
>Hauppauge card should work fine.

Thanks Dave

Well let me ask you this..... Im not sure what "type"
of PC I want and need

My uses would be general computing...... word
processing, Internet surfing, etc

But Im also interested in using it as a "television" or
PVR. And maybe using it with voice recognition software
such as Dragon Naturally Speaking to dictate what I say
in news groups instead of typing it (need to reduce
typing)

Having said that..... Im wondering if a Dell server
wouldn't actually be a better fit for me. Could I use
a server as "desktop" when needed such as for word
processing and Net surfing..... but also put a TV card
in it and make a PVR out of it? As well as use it for
voice recognition?

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Dave Navarro wrote:
> In article <9luh31ta00imk4i2vc81132q69qd7usj0m@4ax.com>, me@privacy.net
> says...
>
>>>I emailed Hauppauge and was pleasantly surprised to get a fairly quickly
>>>response from their sales people telling me that the sound does not go
>>>through the sound card any more for recording.
>>
>>Question.....
>>
>>Does Hauppauge have a PCI Express version of their PVR
>>card yet?
>
>
> Not that I have seen. Although since it's not a "video card", I don't
> see why they would make a PCI Express version. Not many systems have
> more than one PCI Express slot from what I've read.


I think he's refering to PCI-E 1x or 4x, not 16x (or 8x SLI) slot which
is reserved for video. I am also waiting for a PCI-E version of a
multi-track sound card.

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>I think he's refering to PCI-E

yes that is what I was referring to

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me@privacy.net wrote:
>>I think he's refering to PCI-E
>
>
> yes that is what I was referring to

My motherboard has three PCI-E slots, 1X, 4X and 16X.

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me@privacy.net wrote:

> But Im also interested in using it as a "television" or
> PVR. And maybe using it with voice recognition software
> such as Dragon Naturally Speaking to dictate what I say
> in news groups instead of typing it (need to reduce
> typing)

> Having said that..... Im wondering if a Dell server
> wouldn't actually be a better fit for me. Could I use
> a server as "desktop" when needed such as for word
> processing and Net surfing..... but also put a TV card
> in it and make a PVR out of it? As well as use it for
> voice recognition?

I use an older Dell server (Intel 875 chipset, 2.8 Ghz w/HT, 800fsb) and have
the Haup PVR-250 in a PCI slot, and on the same box use a Plextor 402U as an
external usb2 tuner. I don't experience any problems or bottlenecks when
either one or both tuners are recording. My drives are simple WD IDE, 7200
speed with 8 meg buffers, nothing fancy.

As an experiment I've used the Plextor external tuner on my laptop - Pentium M
1.6 Ghz with just 512 ram and a slow 5400 hard drive - with no problems at
all. I might have had problems had I stuck Two external tuners on and been
recording two shows at once; haven't tried it.

But on any halfway decent desktop system you shouldn't run into problems
running a couple of tuners simultaneously *and* doing other stuff at the same
time, because encoding's done on the cards leaving the processor relatively
free. I regularly encode large mpg files to divx or xvid while a tv program's
recording on one of the cards. No problemo. Nex

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>I use an older Dell server (Intel 875 chipset, 2.8 Ghz w/HT, 800fsb) and have
>the Haup PVR-250 in a PCI slot,

Any particular reason why you used a server for this?

Im asking cause Im wondering if a server has some
inherit advantages to being a "media" server?

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me@privacy.net wrote:

> Any particular reason why you used a server for this?


Cost, and because it's my fastest system at the moment. Got it brand new and
dirt cheap on a special Dell was running (400sc). It came semi-naked, so I
added the os, a better video card, a gig of fast ram (from the paltry 256mb it
came with) replaced the 1 hd with two faster, bigger ones and replaced the 1
cd reader with two dvd burners, and of course the pvr-250. It's been my main
system for a year and still runs like a charm.

Stuck the hd it came with into a 1Ghz celery left over from the punic wars.
Match made in heaven.

So no, no special reason to use a server or anything else for that matter as
long as it sports a relatively decent mobo, a good warranty, and that you add
the requisite drives, mem, vid card and anything else you'll need. Faster bus
is better, a g of fast ram always helps, and *never* forget to bonk the thing
at first boot with a bottle of passable supermarket champagne. Nex

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>> Any particular reason why you used a server for this?
>
>
>Cost, and because it's my fastest system at the moment. Got it brand new and
>dirt cheap on a special Dell was running

OK

I was thinking of doing the very same thing you've
done. Use it as a cheap PVR computer

But i think the latest "cheap" Dell servers don't have
AGP or PCI slots for the Hauupauge card. No?