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I have recently acquired a new Samsung SP1614C because (if I'm not
mistaken) it's one of the quietest 3.5" drives currently available.
 
When I compare the decal on the drive to the one pictured in this web
link:
 
http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/spinpoint160.html
 
or this one:
 
http://www.digit-life.com/articles [...] ndex2.html
 
I notice that my drive does not have the "noise guard" logo.
 
Nor does it have what looks like "Impac Guard" logo.
 
My drive has all the other logo's on that line, and an addition one
(looks like the leters VCI inside 2 concentric boxes.
 
The drive in that picture was manufactured 2004 / 03, and mine was
2005 / 04.
 
The S/N of mine is slighty different. The P/N is quite a bit
different. Mine says "P/V FS" where the one in the picture has "P/V
MS".
 
Why would Samsung remove the Noise Guard (and Impac Guard) logo's from
their new drives? How do I know if my drive has these features?
 
This page:
 
http://www.samsung.com/Products/Ha [...] P1614C.htm
 
Says that the SP1614C has Noise Guard (but not Impac Guard).
 
So what's the scoop?

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Drive Guy <Drive@Guy.com> wrote in message
news:42CB19CE.22DD5319@Guy.com...
 
> I have recently acquired a new Samsung SP1614C because (if I'm
> not mistaken) it's one of the quietest 3.5" drives currently available.
 
Correct.
 
> When I compare the decal on the drive to the one pictured in this web link:
 
> http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/spinpoint160.html
 
> or this one:
 
> http://www.digit-life.com/articles [...] ndex2.html
 
> I notice that my drive does not have the "noise guard" logo.
 
Since the web site says it has that, they've just changed the logo detail.
 
> Nor does it have what looks like "Impac Guard" logo.
 
> My drive has all the other logo's on that line, and an addition
> one (looks like the leters VCI inside 2 concentric boxes.
 
> The drive in that picture was manufactured
> 2004 / 03, and mine was 2005 / 04.
 
> The S/N of mine is slighty different. The P/N is quite a bit different.
> Mine says "P/V FS" where the one in the picture has "P/V MS".
 
> Why would Samsung remove the Noise Guard
> (and Impac Guard) logo's from their new drives?
 
Logos change over time.
 
> How do I know if my drive has these features?
 
The web site says it has noise guard.
 
> This page:
 
> http://www.samsung.com/Products/Ha [...] P1614C.htm
 
> Says that the SP1614C has Noise Guard (but not Impac Guard).
 
> So what's the scoop?
 
You've got what you wanted, one of the quietest drives around.

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On Wed 06 Jul 2005 00:37:50, Drive Guy wrote:
>
> I have recently acquired a new Samsung SP1614C because (if I'm
> not mistaken) it's one of the quietest 3.5" drives currently
> available.  
>  
> When I compare the decal on the drive to the one pictured in
> this web link:
> http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/spinpoint160.html
> or this one:
> http://www.digit-life.com/articles [...] ndex2.html
>  
> I notice that my drive does not have the "noise guard" logo.
> Nor does it have what looks like "Impac Guard" logo.
>  
> My drive has all the other logo's on that line, and an addition
> one (looks like the leters VCI inside 2 concentric boxes.
>  
> The drive in that picture was manufactured 2004 / 03, and mine
> was 2005 / 04.
>  
> The S/N of mine is slighty different. The P/N is quite a bit
> different. Mine says "P/V FS" where the one in the picture has
> "P/V MS".
>  
> Why would Samsung remove the Noise Guard (and Impac Guard)
> logo's from their new drives? How do I know if my drive has
> these features?  
>  
> This page:
> http://www.samsung.com/Products/Ha [...] tPSeries/H
> ardDiskDrive_SpinPointPSeries_SP1614C.htm  
> Says that the SP1614C has Noise Guard (but not Impac Guard).
> So what's the scoop?
 
 
Noise Guard is not much more carefully matched acoustic damping.  
However the noise source this damping works on has varied in  
Samsung HDDs and in the P80 series (includes 160 GB, 7200rpm)  
Samsung has used two different manufacturers of the motors (NIDEC  
and JVC).  Some users say they can hear a difference and that  
Nidec is better. http://www.autocrossing.com/misc/junk/fdb.jpg
 
Also see http://forums.silentpcreview.com/viewtopic.php?t=11832
 
Alternatively you may have a drive made for the OEM market (as  
opposed to not being I a retail box).  These OEM-only drives are  
not always the same spec.  ISTR there was a drive Samsung made a  
few years ago with FDB bearings for the OEM market but only non-
FDB for other markets.

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Mark M wrote:
 
> Noise Guard is not much more carefully matched acoustic damping.
> However the noise source this damping works on has varied in
> Samsung HDDs and in the P80 series (includes 160 GB, 7200rpm)
> Samsung has used two different manufacturers of the motors (NIDEC
> and JVC).  Some users say they can hear a difference and that
> Nidec is better. http://www.autocrossing.com/misc/junk/fdb.jpg
 
Yes, I have the Nidec.  Mine is stamped "F0510611F"  and "FDB" (fluid
dynamic bearing?).
 
> Also see http://forums.silentpcreview.com/viewtopic.php?t=11832
>  
> Alternatively you may have a drive made for the OEM market (as
> opposed to not being I a retail box).  These OEM-only drives are
> not always the same spec.  ISTR there was a drive Samsung made a
> few years ago with FDB bearings for the OEM market but only non-
> FDB for other markets.
 
I haven't powered it up yet, so I can't say how it compares to my
Barracuda 7200.7 (my Barracuda is acceptible except for the periodic
buzzing it does - which is called "offline seek" - which I can't get
any verification if the newer 7200.8 Barracuda's also do or not.

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"Mark M" <CANT_RECEIVE_MAIL@com.invalid> wrote in message news:9690B86DF31CA01A4D@204.153.244.156
> On Wed 06 Jul 2005 00:37:50, Drive Guy wrote:
> >  
> > I have recently acquired a new Samsung SP1614C because (if I'm
> > not mistaken) it's one of the quietest 3.5" drives currently
> > available.
> >  
> > When I compare the decal on the drive to the one pictured in
> > this web link:
> > http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/spinpoint160.html
> > or this one:
> > http://www.digit-life.com/articles [...] ndex2.html
> >  
> > I notice that my drive does not have the "noise guard" logo.
> > Nor does it have what looks like "Impac Guard" logo.
> >  
> > My drive has all the other logo's on that line, and an addition
> > one (looks like the letters VCI inside 2 concentric boxes.
> >  
> > The drive in that picture was manufactured 2004 / 03, and mine
> > was 2005 / 04.
> >  
> > The S/N of mine is slightly different. The P/N is quite a bit
> > different. Mine says "P/V FS" where the one in the picture has
> > "P/V MS".
> >  
> > Why would Samsung remove the Noise Guard (and Impac Guard)
> > logo's from their new drives? How do I know if my drive has
> > these features?
> >  
> > This page:
> > http://www.samsung.com/Products/Ha [...] tPSeries/H
> > ardDiskDrive_SpinPointPSeries_SP1614C.htm
 
Congrats, Mark M.  
Microsoft finally taught OE not to break links anymore and you found  
it necessary to undo that. You must have studied real hard on that.
 
> > Says that the SP1614C has Noise Guard (but not Impac Guard).
> > So what's the scoop?
>  
>  
> Noise Guard is not much more carefully matched acoustic damping.
> However the noise source this damping works on has varied in
> Samsung HDDs and in the P80 series (includes 160 GB, 7200rpm)
> Samsung has used two different manufacturers of the motors (NIDEC
> and JVC). Some users say they can hear a difference and that
> Nidec is better. http://www.autocrossing.com/misc/junk/fdb.jpg
>  
> Also see http://forums.silentpcreview.com/viewtopic.php?t=11832
>  
> Alternatively you may have a drive made for the OEM market (as
> opposed to not being I a retail box). These OEM-only drives are
> not always the same spec. ISTR there was a drive Samsung made a
> few years ago with FDB bearings for the OEM market but only non-
> FDB for other markets.

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On Mon 11 Jul 2005 23:52:38, Folkert Rienstra wrote:
<news:42d31ea3$1$14575$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net>
 
>> >  
>> > This page:
>> > http://www.samsung.com/Products/Ha [...] intPSeries
>> > /H ardDiskDrive_SpinPointPSeries_SP1614C.htm
>  
> Congrats, Mark M.  
> Microsoft finally taught OE not to break links anymore and you
> found it necessary to undo that. You must have studied real hard
> on that.  
 
 
Hi Folkie.  And why do you think I am using OE?  Just because I stick  
in a header which says "OE 6.00.2800"?
 
Give me a break.  Even the dumbest kid on the block can see my  
headers look nothing like real OE headers.  Look at your own headers  
if you want to compare.  Of course I am not using OE.
 
Your problem, dear Folkie, is that you are using a newsreader which  
can not automatically join up a wrapped URL.  Blame yourself for  
making that poor decision.  M<y newsreader has no such difficulty.