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I am sorely tempted to get a memory stick which I can attach to a
USB port and which gives the system access to the memory on the
drive. I have seen 512MB sticks and that seems nice.

The price of these devices seems to be constantly changing, so I
don't want to buy too early in a faling market unless there is a
real bargain to be had.

WHat good UK prices are avaialable for good deals on these devices?

--

BTW are there any problems with using these devices in practise:
magnetic fields, low robustness, incompatabilty, etc

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"Lem" <lem@mail.com> wrote in message
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> I am sorely tempted to get a memory stick which I can attach to a
> USB port and which gives the system access to the memory on the
> drive. I have seen 512MB sticks and that seems nice.
>
> The price of these devices seems to be constantly changing, so I
> don't want to buy too early in a faling market unless there is a
> real bargain to be had.
>
> WHat good UK prices are avaialable for good deals on these devices?
>
> --
>
> BTW are there any problems with using these devices in practise:
> magnetic fields, low robustness, incompatabilty, etc


Lem,

As with most technology things, there are "price points". Specifically, wrt
these memory dongles, I've found that at any given time, prices for certain
sizes are really good, and other sizes not so good.

In my case, I wanted to get one for awhile, and waited till the prices of
128MB dongles were (to me) good, and I bought one. A couple of months
later, the 128MB dongles were half what i paid, then they kind of levelled
off.

I think you wait until the size that will be most useful to you gets
relatively cheap, and then you get one .

Even with the price drops after I bought mine, I found that I used it a lot
more than I thought that I would, for moving files, etc., so I'm glad I did
get it, even though the same 128MB dongle is cheaper now.

JMHO....

Jim

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"Ohaya" <Ohaya@NO_SPAM.cox.net> wrote:

> As with most technology things, there are "price points".
> Specifically, wrt these memory dongles, I've found that at any
> given time, prices for certain sizes are really good, and
> other sizes not so good.
>
> In my case, I wanted to get one for awhile, and waited till
> the prices of 128MB dongles were (to me) good, and I bought
> one. A couple of months later, the 128MB dongles were half
> what i paid, then they kind of levelled off.
>
> I think you wait until the size that will be most useful to
> you gets relatively cheap, and then you get one .
>
> Even with the price drops after I bought mine, I found that I
> used it a lot more than I thought that I would, for moving
> files, etc., so I'm glad I did get it, even though the same
> 128MB dongle is cheaper now.


Good points. The thing in the back of my mind is that mainboard
memory has in the past gone up and down. Although the trend is
downward it seems that there are some pretty big swings either way
and these swings can last for something 6 months or so.

So I am not clear what to go for and when.

Does anyone have a better picture of the market than I do and who
can advise?

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Lem wrote:
> "Ohaya" <Ohaya@NO_SPAM.cox.net> wrote:
>
>> As with most technology things, there are "price points".
>> Specifically, wrt these memory dongles, I've found that at any
>> given time, prices for certain sizes are really good, and
>> other sizes not so good.
>>
>> In my case, I wanted to get one for awhile, and waited till
>> the prices of 128MB dongles were (to me) good, and I bought
>> one. A couple of months later, the 128MB dongles were half
>> what i paid, then they kind of levelled off.
>>
>> I think you wait until the size that will be most useful to
>> you gets relatively cheap, and then you get one .
>>
>> Even with the price drops after I bought mine, I found that I
>> used it a lot more than I thought that I would, for moving
>> files, etc., so I'm glad I did get it, even though the same
>> 128MB dongle is cheaper now.
>
>
> Good points. The thing in the back of my mind is that mainboard
> memory has in the past gone up and down. Although the trend is
> downward it seems that there are some pretty big swings either way
> and these swings can last for something 6 months or so.
>
> So I am not clear what to go for and when.
>
> Does anyone have a better picture of the market than I do and who
> can advise?



http://www.dabs.com/uk/templates/C [...] &catid=216

or http://tinyurl.com/2w6re

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"S.Heenan" <sheenan@wahs.ac> wrote:

>> memory has in the past gone up and down. Although the trend
>> is downward it seems that there are some pretty big swings
>> either way and these swings can last for something 6 months
>> or so.
>>
>> So I am not clear what to go for and when.
>>
>> Does anyone have a better picture of the market than I do and
>> who can advise?
>
>
>
> http://www.dabs.com/uk/templates/C [...] lts/Produc
> tResults1.aspx?NRMODE=Published&NRORIGINALURL=%2fuk%2fchannels%
> 2fcomponents%2fmemoryandaccessories%2fproducts%2ehtm%3fcatid%3d
> 216&NRNODEGUID=%7bBC25FDAB-4824-4B3C-8518-C250A5DDF68F%7d&NRCAC
> HEHINT=Guest&catid=216
>
> or http://tinyurl.com/2w6re


Does this sort of memory stick come in different speed memory?

Do all memory stick/flash drives initialise as quickly as one
another?

Also http://makeashorterlink.com/?L2F6326F7

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Max wrote:
>> or http://tinyurl.com/2w6re
>
>
> Does this sort of memory stick come in different speed memory?
>
> Do all memory stick/flash drives initialise as quickly as one
> another?


http://makeashorterlink.com/?L2F6326F7
The products listed here are all USB1.1, according to this:
what is the transfer speed of the Flash usb Drive - Martin Collins
Max 12mbs (USB speed)


Maplins doesn't offer a great price at all.




This unit from Dabs is a good bargain at £45 VAT inc., especially if it is
USB2 (480Mbits/sec) as advertised. Even if it was USB1.1, it's a better
bargain than Maplins.
http://www.dabs.com/uk/channels/co [...] klinx=319M

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"Lem" <lem@mail.com> wrote in message
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> "Ohaya" <Ohaya@NO_SPAM.cox.net> wrote:
>
> > As with most technology things, there are "price points".
> > Specifically, wrt these memory dongles, I've found that at any
> > given time, prices for certain sizes are really good, and
> > other sizes not so good.
> >
> > In my case, I wanted to get one for awhile, and waited till
> > the prices of 128MB dongles were (to me) good, and I bought
> > one. A couple of months later, the 128MB dongles were half
> > what i paid, then they kind of levelled off.
> >
> > I think you wait until the size that will be most useful to
> > you gets relatively cheap, and then you get one .
> >
> > Even with the price drops after I bought mine, I found that I
> > used it a lot more than I thought that I would, for moving
> > files, etc., so I'm glad I did get it, even though the same
> > 128MB dongle is cheaper now.
>
>
> Good points. The thing in the back of my mind is that mainboard
> memory has in the past gone up and down. Although the trend is
> downward it seems that there are some pretty big swings either way
> and these swings can last for something 6 months or so.
>
> So I am not clear what to go for and when.
>
> Does anyone have a better picture of the market than I do and who
> can advise?

You have to remember that these Dongles all use flash memory, not DRAM, and
my gut feel tells me that you won't see the kinds of "swings" that you might
see in DRAM/DIMM markets.

Such swings are usually an abberation in most cases anyway, IMHO, e.g., a
couple of years ago, when there was a fire in a Toshiba factory and the
prices of LCD panels went up... for awhile, then started dropping again.

So my advice is still the same: Decide if you can use it, and if so, how
much memory you'd need, watch for price points vs. memory size, then get it.

If you try to chase prices down, you'll never get the "best" price, and if
you don't have a real use for it, it'll never be "worth" whatever price you
paid for it... The only exception to this is when manufacturers "end of
life" products, but the products still have demand, then you'll see the
prices start climbing again (e.g., older, slower Duron chips ), I
wouldn't anticipate that to happen with these dongles since USB 1.1 is
backwards compatible with 2.0. I would note that I have seen some posts
about people having problems with one of the USB2.0/256MB dongles
compatibility.

Also, MaximumPC had an article where they "tortured" a bunch of dongles...

Jim

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> I am sorely tempted to get a memory stick which I can attach to a
> USB port and which gives the system access to the memory on the
> drive. I have seen 512MB sticks and that seems nice.
>
> The price of these devices seems to be constantly changing, so I
> don't want to buy too early in a faling market unless there is a
> real bargain to be had.
>
> WHat good UK prices are avaialable for good deals on these devices?


Unbelievably the best prices for these things appear to be on EBAY. You may
have to search around a bit as they are listed under different headings i.e.
flash drives, memory etc.

MJP

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You probably waited too long already, memory just jumped in price worldwide.

--Dan

"Lem" <lem@mail.com> wrote in message
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> I am sorely tempted to get a memory stick which I can attach to a
> USB port and which gives the system access to the memory on the
> drive. I have seen 512MB sticks and that seems nice.
>
> The price of these devices seems to be constantly changing, so I
> don't want to buy too early in a faling market unless there is a
> real bargain to be had.
>
> WHat good UK prices are avaialable for good deals on these devices?
>

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Hi,

I asked the same question about two months ago, and someone here recommended
me the CRUCIAL range. I bought a 128MB GIZMO! and it works very well, just
USBv1.1 but its fine. If you want to get a bigger capacity than 128MB then
make sure you opt for a USBv2.0 stick (which CRUCIAL don't do).

I have found 128Mb enough, and after some research into the prices of the
larger units (256MB/512MB etc) it worked out cheaper to buy a small 2.5"
based portable HDD, then you would have 30GB of USB2.0, BUS-Powered storage
space, pretty neat.

Of course you may really need the tiny size of a flash-thumb-drive, but the
portable USBv2.0/Firewire caddies are pretty small also!
--
Wayne ][
<Intel® Pentium® 4 - Online! >

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"Wayne Youngman" <waynes.spamtrap@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> I asked the same question about two months ago, and someone
> here recommended me the CRUCIAL range. I bought a 128MB
> GIZMO! and it works very well, just USBv1.1 but its fine. If
> you want to get a bigger capacity than 128MB then make sure
> you opt for a USBv2.0 stick (which CRUCIAL don't do).

What sort of price (UK pounds) was the Crucial 128 MB device?

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www.7dayshop.com works for me

"dg" <dan_gus@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> You probably waited too long already, memory just jumped in price
worldwide.
>
> --Dan
>
> "Lem" <lem@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:94C452F9CA55091F3A2@130.133.1.4...
> > I am sorely tempted to get a memory stick which I can attach to a
> > USB port and which gives the system access to the memory on the
> > drive. I have seen 512MB sticks and that seems nice.
> >
> > The price of these devices seems to be constantly changing, so I
> > don't want to buy too early in a faling market unless there is a
> > real bargain to be had.
> >
> > WHat good UK prices are avaialable for good deals on these devices?
> >
>
>

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"Mark M" wrote
> What sort of price (UK pounds) was the Crucial 128 MB device?


Crucial Gizmo! 64MB USB flash drive
£16.44 inc. VAT

Crucial Gizmo! 128MB USB flash drive
£25.84 inc. VAT

Crucial Gizmo! 256MB USB flash drive
£49.34 inc. VAT

http://www.crucial.com/uk/index.asp
--
Wayne ][
<Intel® Pentium® 4 - Online! >

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"Wayne Youngman" <waynes.spamtrap@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Crucial Gizmo! 64MB USB flash drive
> £16.44 inc. VAT
>
> Crucial Gizmo! 128MB USB flash drive
> £25.84 inc. VAT
>
> Crucial Gizmo! 256MB USB flash drive
> £49.34 inc. VAT
>
> http://www.crucial.com/uk/index.asp



This is very good pricing from Crucial.

Do other UK retailers sell these Crucial USB memory sticks?

If so then do they undercut Crucial's price?

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"Lem"wrote
> This is very good pricing from Crucial.
> Do other UK retailers sell these Crucial USB memory sticks?
> If so then do they undercut Crucial's price?


Lol. . . . .No they don't!
--
Wayne ][
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"Wayne Youngman" <waynes.spamtrap@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>> This is very good pricing from Crucial.
>> Do other UK retailers sell these Crucial USB memory sticks?
>> If so then do they undercut Crucial's price?
>
>
> Lol. . . . .No they don't!


If so, then surely Crucial is undercutting its own distribution
channels?

It makes it less worthwhile for the distributors to bother selling
the product.

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"Lem" wrote
> If so, then surely Crucial is undercutting its own distribution
> channels?
>
> It makes it less worthwhile for the distributors to bother selling
> the product.


Hi,
Crucial sells direct from its own website! Prices include VAT and P&P. I
seen a few companies carry stuff from the Crucial range but they are always
more expensive than buying direct.
--
Wayne ][
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I think the "cheapest" solution might cost a bit more up-front, but doesn't
become obsolete so quick. My complaint with all the USB flash devices out
there is that they are all sealed and not upgradable. So as soon as the
device becomes too small for you, you need to get a new one.

Instead, if they spent a slight amount more to leave open a cheap slot for
a cheap flash card, like compact flash, then you can just add newer, bigger
compact flash cards at will.

So my suggestion is just to get the cheapest, smallest, CF card reader you
can find, and add to it the cheapest CF cards in the sizes you need.


Lem <lem@mail.com> wrote in news:94C452F9CA55091F3A2@130.133.1.4:

> I am sorely tempted to get a memory stick which I can attach to a
> USB port and which gives the system access to the memory on the
> drive. I have seen 512MB sticks and that seems nice.
>
> The price of these devices seems to be constantly changing, so I
> don't want to buy too early in a faling market unless there is a
> real bargain to be had.
>
> WHat good UK prices are avaialable for good deals on these devices?