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For the computer knowledgable and savvy people.

Looking to get a new system and the company will be paying for it ( or most
of it) so im looking to put together an awesome system that could make me
the king of my block for awhile.....

.....so overkill is encouraged.

My current computer cost about $1000 a few years back, so if the 'dream'
system runs up to say $6000, i would like to know about. ( i know one can
assemble a system for $20 K so im trying to keep within reason )

Im asking if some of you hardware informed people may give me your 2 cents
on what I could shop for. Even if the component needs to be specially
ordered from the manufacturer because stores rarely carry it ( perhaps cause
its expensive or not in much demand), I still would like to hear about it. I
have a very good understanding of most components but not as in touch with
the highest-end performance parts

Im thinking something such as:

- Dual ( or even 4 ??) CPU MB
- fast cpu's to fill those multiple slots.
- 1 to 2 gigs ram
- the best gaming video card ( note that I want to support multiple
monitors..2 hopefully 3 and being able to video input cable tv at times)
- hard drive: running 4, 200gb drives in raid or something like that.. or
whatever gets the fastest speed

All ideas are welcome. thank you
Post thoughts here so others amy share in or email bwps (@) shaw.ca

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Brad wrote:

> For the computer knowledgable and savvy people.
>
> Looking to get a new system and the company will be paying for it ( or most
> of it) so im looking to put together an awesome system that could make me
> the king of my block for awhile.....
>
> ....so overkill is encouraged.
>
> My current computer cost about $1000 a few years back, so if the 'dream'
> system runs up to say $6000, i would like to know about. ( i know one can
> assemble a system for $20 K so im trying to keep within reason )
>
> Im asking if some of you hardware informed people may give me your 2 cents
> on what I could shop for. Even if the component needs to be specially
> ordered from the manufacturer because stores rarely carry it ( perhaps cause
> its expensive or not in much demand), I still would like to hear about it. I
> have a very good understanding of most components but not as in touch with
> the highest-end performance parts
>
> Im thinking something such as:
>
> - Dual ( or even 4 ??) CPU MB

Dual Opteron 250 processors would be nice.

>
> - fast cpu's to fill those multiple slots.
> - 1 to 2 gigs ram

2 gigs would be nice.

>
> - the best gaming video card

A 6800 Ultra card would be nice.

> ( note that I want to support multiple
> monitors..2 hopefully 3 and being able to video input cable tv at times)
> - hard drive: running 4, 200gb drives in raid or something like that.. or
> whatever gets the fastest speed

Some smaller 10,000 rpm drives for speed, and some 250 gig 7200
rpm drives might be an interesting idea.

>
>
> All ideas are welcome. thank you
> Post thoughts here so others amy share in or email bwps (@) shaw.ca

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Brad wrote:

> For the computer knowledgable and savvy people.
>
> Looking to get a new system and the company will be paying for it ( or most
> of it) so im looking to put together an awesome system that could make me
> the king of my block for awhile.....
>
> ....so overkill is encouraged.
>
> My current computer cost about $1000 a few years back, so if the 'dream'
> system runs up to say $6000, i would like to know about. ( i know one can
> assemble a system for $20 K so im trying to keep within reason )
>
> Im asking if some of you hardware informed people may give me your 2 cents
> on what I could shop for. Even if the component needs to be specially
> ordered from the manufacturer because stores rarely carry it ( perhaps cause
> its expensive or not in much demand), I still would like to hear about it. I
> have a very good understanding of most components but not as in touch with
> the highest-end performance parts
>
> Im thinking something such as:
>
> - Dual ( or even 4 ??) CPU MB
> - fast cpu's to fill those multiple slots.
> - 1 to 2 gigs ram
> - the best gaming video card ( note that I want to support multiple
> monitors..2 hopefully 3 and being able to video input cable tv at times)
> - hard drive: running 4, 200gb drives in raid or something like that.. or
> whatever gets the fastest speed
>
> All ideas are welcome. thank you
> Post thoughts here so others amy share in or email bwps (@) shaw.ca

My suggestion is don't get a PC, get a server.

Carter

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JK wrote:
> Brad wrote:
>
>> For the computer knowledgable and savvy people.
>>
>> Looking to get a new system and the company will be paying for it (
>> or most of it) so im looking to put together an awesome system that
>> could make me the king of my block for awhile.....
>>
>> ....so overkill is encouraged.
>>
>> My current computer cost about $1000 a few years back, so if the
>> 'dream' system runs up to say $6000, i would like to know about. ( i
>> know one can assemble a system for $20 K so im trying to keep within
>> reason )
>>
>> Im asking if some of you hardware informed people may give me your 2
>> cents on what I could shop for. Even if the component needs to be
>> specially ordered from the manufacturer because stores rarely carry
>> it ( perhaps cause its expensive or not in much demand), I still
>> would like to hear about it. I have a very good understanding of
>> most components but not as in touch with the highest-end performance
>> parts
>>
>> Im thinking something such as:
>>
>> - Dual ( or even 4 ??) CPU MB
>
> Dual Opteron 250 processors would be nice.
>
>>
>> - fast cpu's to fill those multiple slots.
>> - 1 to 2 gigs ram
>
> 2 gigs would be nice.
>
>>
>> - the best gaming video card
>
> A 6800 Ultra card would be nice.


You mad?! The X800XT blows it out of the water!

>
>> ( note that I want to support multiple
>> monitors..2 hopefully 3 and being able to video input cable tv at
>> times) - hard drive: running 4, 200gb drives in raid or something
>> like that.. or whatever gets the fastest speed
>
> Some smaller 10,000 rpm drives for speed, and some 250 gig 7200
> rpm drives might be an interesting idea.
>
>>
>>
>> All ideas are welcome. thank you
>> Post thoughts here so others amy share in or email bwps (@) shaw.ca

Here's the system I've just built

ASUS SK8V Deluxe board
FX-55
2GB PC3200 OCZ
X800 Pro (couldn't get the XT)
SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro
2x75GB 10K Raptors
1x250GB Caviar (all SATA obviously)
Plextor DVD burner (though this will be replaced at the beginning of next
year with one of the new 8.5GB units)
Samsung combi (for convenience and when I need to burn a CD in a hurry -
it's twice as fast as the Plextor)
Coolermaster WaveMaster case
Tagan SilentPower 500W PSU (and it *IS* silent!)
Logitech iTouch combi (Bluetooth)
If you're a gamer (which you obviously are) - the you owe it to yourself to
get a MX700 or MX900 (Bluetooth) - they are the most accurate and most
responsive gaming mice currently available. Coupled with a RatpadzGS (Gaming
Surface) - they will (sorry for the advertising cliche) take your gaming
experience to a whole new level.

Whilst I'm not really a gamer (not in the sense of FPS, flight sims, RTS,
etc) I do play (OK, I guess adventures, RPGs and management don't really
count - I can't wait for /Rollercoaster Tycoon 3/ or /The Sims 2/ for
example).

Just my 2p (inc. VAT)'s worth.

--
My great-grandfather was born and raised in Elgin - did he eventually
lose his marbles?

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> Here's the system I've just built
>
> ASUS SK8V Deluxe board
> FX-55
> 2GB PC3200 OCZ
> X800 Pro (couldn't get the XT)
> SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro
> 2x75GB 10K Raptors
> 1x250GB Caviar (all SATA obviously)
> Plextor DVD burner (though this will be replaced at the beginning of next
> year with one of the new 8.5GB units)
> Samsung combi (for convenience and when I need to burn a CD in a hurry -
> it's twice as fast as the Plextor)
> Coolermaster WaveMaster case
> Tagan SilentPower 500W PSU (and it *IS* silent!)
> Logitech iTouch combi (Bluetooth)
> If you're a gamer (which you obviously are) - the you owe it to yourself
> to get a MX700 or MX900 (Bluetooth) - they are the most accurate and most
> responsive gaming mice currently available. Coupled with a RatpadzGS
> (Gaming Surface) - they will (sorry for the advertising cliche) take your
> gaming experience to a whole new level.
>
> Whilst I'm not really a gamer (not in the sense of FPS, flight sims, RTS,
> etc) I do play (OK, I guess adventures, RPGs and management don't really
> count - I can't wait for /Rollercoaster Tycoon 3/ or /The Sims 2/ for
> example).
>
> Just my 2p (inc. VAT)'s worth.
>
> --
> My great-grandfather was born and raised in Elgin - did he eventually
> lose his marbles?
WTF Would you want a system like that for if you don't use it for FPS or
Flight Sims/Racing Sims.

What Frame Rate do you get with Solitare ?
Do you suffer from Lag with Internet Hearts.?

Why don't you get an 8 Meg Bonded SDSL connection for your e-mail. ?

Have you got some £2.50 headphones for your soundblaster ?

How's the 14" Monitor running at 640 * 480 ?

What a fookin Tosser you are ?

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Brad wrote:

> For the computer knowledgable and savvy people.
>
> Looking to get a new system and the company will be paying for it ( or
> most
> of it) so im looking to put together an awesome system that could make me
> the king of my block for awhile.....
>
> ....so overkill is encouraged.
>
> My current computer cost about $1000 a few years back, so if the 'dream'
> system runs up to say $6000, i would like to know about. ( i know one can
> assemble a system for $20 K so im trying to keep within reason )
>
> Im asking if some of you hardware informed people may give me your 2 cents
> on what I could shop for. Even if the component needs to be specially
> ordered from the manufacturer because stores rarely carry it ( perhaps
> cause its expensive or not in much demand), I still would like to hear
> about it. I have a very good understanding of most components but not as
> in touch with the highest-end performance parts
>
> Im thinking something such as:
>
> - Dual ( or even 4 ??) CPU MB

Forget the 4 CPU unless you're running Linux--the only Windows versions that
support more than 2 are Advanced Server and above and you're not going to
get those within your $6K budget.

For duals the Opterons are a better deal than Xeons, but you're still
looking at 1500 or so bucks worth of CPUs if you go with the highest clock
speed. Running Windows you won't see a whole lot of difference between
Opteron and Xeon unless you want to try the 64-bit beta (free download from
Microsoft, 1-year time-bomb).

> - fast cpu's to fill those multiple slots.
> - 1 to 2 gigs ram
> - the best gaming video card ( note that I want to support multiple
> monitors..2 hopefully 3 and being able to video input cable tv at times)

Not going to get 3 with good performance on all of them until somebody ships
a motherboard with 2 PCI Express 16X slots--the only AGP boards that
support 3 or more monitors are from Matrox and their gaming performance is
marginal at best. Duals with AGP just pick whatever's hot right now. Note
that you can get dual DVI with nvidia boards for a good deal less than with
ATI boards.

> - hard drive: running 4, 200gb drives in raid or something like that.. or
> whatever gets the fastest speed

Within your budget 15K SCSI drives are probably out--a couple of WD Raptors,
one for boot and one for swap, plus 3 250s RAID-5ed for data would be a
good combo. Hook them all to an Intel or LSI Logic or 3Ware RAID
controller, not a Promise cheapie.

> All ideas are welcome. thank you
> Post thoughts here so others amy share in or email bwps (@) shaw.ca

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

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"liam" <lm2000uk@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > Here's the system I've just built
> >
> > ASUS SK8V Deluxe board
> > FX-55
> > 2GB PC3200 OCZ
> > X800 Pro (couldn't get the XT)
> > SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro
> > 2x75GB 10K Raptors
> > 1x250GB Caviar (all SATA obviously)
> > Plextor DVD burner (though this will be replaced at the beginning of
next
> > year with one of the new 8.5GB units)
> > Samsung combi (for convenience and when I need to burn a CD in a hurry -
> > it's twice as fast as the Plextor)
> > Coolermaster WaveMaster case
> > Tagan SilentPower 500W PSU (and it *IS* silent!)
> > Logitech iTouch combi (Bluetooth)
> > If you're a gamer (which you obviously are) - the you owe it to yourself
> > to get a MX700 or MX900 (Bluetooth) - they are the most accurate and
most
> > responsive gaming mice currently available. Coupled with a RatpadzGS
> > (Gaming Surface) - they will (sorry for the advertising cliche) take
your
> > gaming experience to a whole new level.
> >
> > Whilst I'm not really a gamer (not in the sense of FPS, flight sims,
RTS,
> > etc) I do play (OK, I guess adventures, RPGs and management don't really
> > count - I can't wait for /Rollercoaster Tycoon 3/ or /The Sims 2/ for
> > example).
> >
> > Just my 2p (inc. VAT)'s worth.
> >
> > --
> > My great-grandfather was born and raised in Elgin - did he eventually
> > lose his marbles?
> WTF Would you want a system like that for if you don't use it for FPS or
> Flight Sims/Racing Sims.
>
> What Frame Rate do you get with Solitare ?
> Do you suffer from Lag with Internet Hearts.?
>
> Why don't you get an 8 Meg Bonded SDSL connection for your e-mail. ?
>
> Have you got some £2.50 headphones for your soundblaster ?
>
> How's the 14" Monitor running at 640 * 480 ?
>
> What a fookin Tosser you are ?

Now now keep the claws in girls. :-)

>
>
>
>
>
>

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"Brad" <nospam@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> For the computer knowledgable and savvy people.
>
> Looking to get a new system and the company will be paying for it ( or most
> of it) so im looking to put together an awesome system that could make me
> the king of my block for awhile.....
>
> ....so overkill is encouraged.
>
If you wanna see extreme overkill, check these out:

http://www.go-l.com/desktops/index.htm

<drool>

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Well if the system is for fun and work

Get the VapoChill Extreme Edition Case, it will keep your CPU @ -25C
MOBO - ABIT AV8 3rd Eye (should be on the street next week)
Athlon FX-53 939
OCZ 1024MB Kit PC-3200 Dual Channel EL DDR (512 x 2) 2-3-2-6
ATI x800XT PE
WD 740GD 74GB 10K RPM 5.2ms RAPTOR S-ATA (run 2 of these bad boys in RAID 1)

This setup should deliver some EXTREME fun and performance.








"Brad" <nospam@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> For the computer knowledgable and savvy people.
>
> Looking to get a new system and the company will be paying for it ( or
> most
> of it) so im looking to put together an awesome system that could make me
> the king of my block for awhile.....
>
> ....so overkill is encouraged.
>
> My current computer cost about $1000 a few years back, so if the 'dream'
> system runs up to say $6000, i would like to know about. ( i know one can
> assemble a system for $20 K so im trying to keep within reason )
>
> Im asking if some of you hardware informed people may give me your 2 cents
> on what I could shop for. Even if the component needs to be specially
> ordered from the manufacturer because stores rarely carry it ( perhaps
> cause
> its expensive or not in much demand), I still would like to hear about it.
> I
> have a very good understanding of most components but not as in touch with
> the highest-end performance parts
>
> Im thinking something such as:
>
> - Dual ( or even 4 ??) CPU MB
> - fast cpu's to fill those multiple slots.
> - 1 to 2 gigs ram
> - the best gaming video card ( note that I want to support multiple
> monitors..2 hopefully 3 and being able to video input cable tv at times)
> - hard drive: running 4, 200gb drives in raid or something like that.. or
> whatever gets the fastest speed
>
> All ideas are welcome. thank you
> Post thoughts here so others amy share in or email bwps (@) shaw.ca
>
>
>
>

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Brad wrote:
>
.... snip ...
>
> Im thinking something such as:
>
> - Dual ( or even 4 ??) CPU MB
> - fast cpu's to fill those multiple slots.
> - 1 to 2 gigs ram
> - the best gaming video card ( note that I want to support multiple
> monitors..2 hopefully 3 and being able to video input cable tv at times)
> - hard drive: running 4, 200gb drives in raid or something like that.. or
> whatever gets the fastest speed
>
> All ideas are welcome. thank you
> Post thoughts here so others amy share in or email bwps (@) shaw.ca

Just insist on ECC memory (and an ECC capable chipset). You also
want to be sure you can mount Linux, or FreeBSD, etc.

--
Chuck F (cbfalconer@yahoo.com) (cbfalconer@worldnet.att.net)
Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems.
<http://cbfalconer.home.att.net> USE worldnet address!

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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 12:54:38 GMT, "Brad" <nospam@shaw.ca> wrote:

>For the computer knowledgable and savvy people.
>
>Looking to get a new system and the company will be paying for it ( or most
>of it) so im looking to put together an awesome system that could make me
>the king of my block for awhile.....
>
>....so overkill is encouraged.
>
>My current computer cost about $1000 a few years back, so if the 'dream'
>system runs up to say $6000, i would like to know about. ( i know one can
>assemble a system for $20 K so im trying to keep within reason )
>
>Im asking if some of you hardware informed people may give me your 2 cents
>on what I could shop for. Even if the component needs to be specially
>ordered from the manufacturer because stores rarely carry it ( perhaps cause
>its expensive or not in much demand), I still would like to hear about it. I
>have a very good understanding of most components but not as in touch with
>the highest-end performance parts
>
>Im thinking something such as:
>
>- Dual ( or even 4 ??) CPU MB
>- fast cpu's to fill those multiple slots.
>- 1 to 2 gigs ram
>- the best gaming video card ( note that I want to support multiple
>monitors..2 hopefully 3 and being able to video input cable tv at times)
>- hard drive: running 4, 200gb drives in raid or something like that.. or
>whatever gets the fastest speed
>
>All ideas are welcome. thank you
>Post thoughts here so others amy share in or email bwps (@) shaw.ca


Remember that in a few years, whatever you get will seem a little
sub-par again. Start with a good foundation, parts you will want
to reuse in the future.

For example, a very thick-walled aluminum, nearly full tower case
supporting BTX regardless of which ATX/BTX you build "today". PC
Power & Cooling PSU. 19-21" LCD monitor, nice speakers. 4 years
from now those will still be a nice start to rebuild from.

As for the rest, depends on where you need max performance,
keeping in mind that max performance in areas you'll never
exploit, will just be added heat and noise, power usage. I would
go for 2GB memory though, on a machine with that budget.

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liam ur a dick.... just cause u cant get one.

--
Almeyda

AMD2500XP @3200XP-11X200-2.21Ghz
A7N8X-E Deluxe > Corsair TWINX1024 XMS3200LL DualChannel
HIS Excalibur 9800XT 256mb @463/399 (Omegas 2.5.51 & ATI tool 0.20 No
Artifacts)
1x80GB SATA Seagate 8mg cache > 2x40GB ATA Seagate
SB AudigyES > ANTEC SuperLanboy 350 Case (350W SmartBlue PS)


"liam" <lm2000uk@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Here's the system I've just built
>>
>> ASUS SK8V Deluxe board
>> FX-55
>> 2GB PC3200 OCZ
>> X800 Pro (couldn't get the XT)
>> SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro
>> 2x75GB 10K Raptors
>> 1x250GB Caviar (all SATA obviously)
>> Plextor DVD burner (though this will be replaced at the beginning of next
>> year with one of the new 8.5GB units)
>> Samsung combi (for convenience and when I need to burn a CD in a hurry -
>> it's twice as fast as the Plextor)
>> Coolermaster WaveMaster case
>> Tagan SilentPower 500W PSU (and it *IS* silent!)
>> Logitech iTouch combi (Bluetooth)
>> If you're a gamer (which you obviously are) - the you owe it to yourself
>> to get a MX700 or MX900 (Bluetooth) - they are the most accurate and most
>> responsive gaming mice currently available. Coupled with a RatpadzGS
>> (Gaming Surface) - they will (sorry for the advertising cliche) take your
>> gaming experience to a whole new level.
>>
>> Whilst I'm not really a gamer (not in the sense of FPS, flight sims, RTS,
>> etc) I do play (OK, I guess adventures, RPGs and management don't really
>> count - I can't wait for /Rollercoaster Tycoon 3/ or /The Sims 2/ for
>> example).
>>
>> Just my 2p (inc. VAT)'s worth.
>>
>> --
>> My great-grandfather was born and raised in Elgin - did he eventually
>> lose his marbles?
> WTF Would you want a system like that for if you don't use it for FPS or
> Flight Sims/Racing Sims.
>
> What Frame Rate do you get with Solitare ?
> Do you suffer from Lag with Internet Hearts.?
>
> Why don't you get an 8 Meg Bonded SDSL connection for your e-mail. ?
>
> Have you got some £2.50 headphones for your soundblaster ?
>
> How's the 14" Monitor running at 640 * 480 ?
>
> What a fookin Tosser you are ?
>
>
>
>
>
>