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Has VZW ever offered a technical explanation (or reason) that they do this
???


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"Remove This" <telcotech@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Has VZW ever offered a technical explanation (or reason) that they do this
> ???

The reasons is that they would prefer to charge for transferring pictures,
ringtones and video, and for syncing data. Bluetooth provides an easy,
direct way to do this, bypassing Verizon.

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> I work for the ILEC ...." stuff happens! "
>
>
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The following is copied from an email
from verizon tech support. Ha..

It is the intent of Verizon Wireless to
provide the best equipment and services
possible while maintaining reasonable
security measures to protect our
customers and the security of our
wireless network.

Hypothetically, someone walking by with
a PDA in there pocket or a laptop in a
car near you could pass a virus to your
phone, corrupting your phone, from there
you head home and your home network and
PC is corrupted and finally the virus
corrupts the network.

The limited use of mp3 is also due to
the same security measure's as
bluetooth. Layer 3 files or MP3's or
encrypted sound files that people can
download or even create there own using
there own software. The process in
creating or even downloading MP3's can
carry a virus that can cripple your
phones software. Therefore, we limited
or take out these features for the
safety of both our customers and the
network.

Due to an unusual large amount of
e-mails received, we are taking slightly
longer to respond and we apologize for
the delay. We appreciate your patience.

We appreciate your business. Thank you
for using Verizon Wireless products and
services.


KEn

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"Ken" <asken@att.net> wrote in message
news:j408f1l208jhcmfscjaqtmptntfhfj3u86@4ax.com...
> The following is copied from an email
> from verizon tech support. Ha..
>
> It is the intent of Verizon Wireless to
> provide the best equipment and services
> possible while maintaining reasonable
> security measures to protect our
> customers and the security of our
> wireless network.
>
> Hypothetically, someone walking by with
> a PDA in there pocket or a laptop in a
> car near you could pass a virus to your
> phone, corrupting your phone, from there
> you head home and your home network and
> PC is corrupted and finally the virus
> corrupts the network.
>
> The limited use of mp3 is also due to
> the same security measure's as
> bluetooth. Layer 3 files or MP3's or
> encrypted sound files that people can
> download or even create there own using
> there own software. The process in
> creating or even downloading MP3's can
> carry a virus that can cripple your
> phones software. Therefore, we limited
> or take out these features for the
> safety of both our customers and the
> network.
>
> Due to an unusual large amount of
> e-mails received, we are taking slightly
> longer to respond and we apologize for
> the delay. We appreciate your patience.
>
> We appreciate your business. Thank you
> for using Verizon Wireless products and
> services.
>
>
> KEn
>
MP3's are not an executable and therefore can carry a virus....

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"Remove This" <telcotech@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Has VZW ever offered a technical explanation (or reason) that they do this
> ???
$$$, nuff said.

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Does Verizon really think we believe this nonsense?

"Ken" <asken@att.net> wrote in message
news:j408f1l208jhcmfscjaqtmptntfhfj3u86@4ax.com...
> The following is copied from an email
> from verizon tech support. Ha..
>
> It is the intent of Verizon Wireless to
> provide the best equipment and services
> possible while maintaining reasonable
> security measures to protect our
> customers and the security of our
> wireless network.
>
> Hypothetically, someone walking by with
> a PDA in there pocket or a laptop in a
> car near you could pass a virus to your
> phone, corrupting your phone, from there
> you head home and your home network and
> PC is corrupted and finally the virus
> corrupts the network.
>
> The limited use of mp3 is also due to
> the same security measure's as
> bluetooth. Layer 3 files or MP3's or
> encrypted sound files that people can
> download or even create there own using
> there own software. The process in
> creating or even downloading MP3's can
> carry a virus that can cripple your
> phones software. Therefore, we limited
> or take out these features for the
> safety of both our customers and the
> network.
>
> Due to an unusual large amount of
> e-mails received, we are taking slightly
> longer to respond and we apologize for
> the delay. We appreciate your patience.
>
> We appreciate your business. Thank you
> for using Verizon Wireless products and
> services.
>
>
> KEn
>

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i got a virus from an mp3 before. I've gotten several viruses from mp3s
before. But I get my mp3s legally now so no worries about viruses.
"Phillip" <phillipdevoll@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Ken" <asken@att.net> wrote in message
> news:j408f1l208jhcmfscjaqtmptntfhfj3u86@4ax.com...
>> The following is copied from an email
>> from verizon tech support. Ha..
>>
>> It is the intent of Verizon Wireless to
>> provide the best equipment and services
>> possible while maintaining reasonable
>> security measures to protect our
>> customers and the security of our
>> wireless network.
>>
>> Hypothetically, someone walking by with
>> a PDA in there pocket or a laptop in a
>> car near you could pass a virus to your
>> phone, corrupting your phone, from there
>> you head home and your home network and
>> PC is corrupted and finally the virus
>> corrupts the network.
>>
>> The limited use of mp3 is also due to
>> the same security measure's as
>> bluetooth. Layer 3 files or MP3's or
>> encrypted sound files that people can
>> download or even create there own using
>> there own software. The process in
>> creating or even downloading MP3's can
>> carry a virus that can cripple your
>> phones software. Therefore, we limited
>> or take out these features for the
>> safety of both our customers and the
>> network.
>>
>> Due to an unusual large amount of
>> e-mails received, we are taking slightly
>> longer to respond and we apologize for
>> the delay. We appreciate your patience.
>>
>> We appreciate your business. Thank you
>> for using Verizon Wireless products and
>> services.
>>
>>
>> KEn
>>
> MP3's are not an executable and therefore can carry a virus....
>

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In article <jIedndtTNqGrsWjfRVn-jA@comcast.com>, mnmma@comcast.net
says...
> i got a virus from an mp3 before. I've gotten several viruses from mp3s
> before. But I get my mp3s legally now so no worries about viruses.

Hmmm.... imagine Microsoft disable Internet access because thats the way
you can get viruses or illigal software )))


AP

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"AP" <cat@eveningstar.dyndns.org> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d5fc8f838c8b63a9898da@news.dallas.sbcglobal.net...
> In article <jIedndtTNqGrsWjfRVn-jA@comcast.com>, mnmma@comcast.net
> says...
> > i got a virus from an mp3 before. I've gotten several viruses from mp3s
> > before. But I get my mp3s legally now so no worries about viruses.
>
> Hmmm.... imagine Microsoft disable Internet access because thats the way
> you can get viruses or illigal software )))
>
>
But to make the analogy more comparable, Microsoft would then have to be
your ISP and have sold you hardware for use on their system. This being
said, many ISP's limit or cap certain functionality. Interestingly enough,
many that complain about cellphone network or hardware restrictions never
bat an eye at what the ISP's do.

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"Scott" <how.do@you.do> wrote in message
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|
| > > i got a virus from an mp3 before. I've gotten several viruses from
mp3s
| > > before. But I get my mp3s legally now so no worries about viruses.
| >
| > Hmmm.... imagine Microsoft disable Internet access because that's the
way
| > you can get viruses or illegal software )))
| >
| >
| But to make the analogy more comparable, Microsoft would then have to be
| your ISP and have sold you hardware for use on their system. This being
| said, many ISP's limit or cap certain functionality. Interestingly
enough,
| many that complain about cellphone network or hardware restrictions never
| bat an eye at what the ISP's do.

Could that be the things that ISP's do aren't intentionally designed to miss
lead / nickel and dime the customer base?

To my view the only real difference between VZN's business plan and that of
Ken Lay's ENRON is that VZN's is not so blatantly illegal.

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In a word?

YES!!!

"PTravel" <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message
news:Z19Je.273$911.18@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
| Does Verizon really think we believe this nonsense?
|
| "Ken" <asken@att.net> wrote in message
| news:j408f1l208jhcmfscjaqtmptntfhfj3u86@4ax.com...
| > The following is copied from an email
| > from verizon tech support. Ha..
| >
| > It is the intent of Verizon Wireless to
| > provide the best equipment and services
| > possible while maintaining reasonable
| > security measures to protect our
| > customers and the security of our
| > wireless network.
| >
| > Hypothetically, someone walking by with
| > a PDA in there pocket or a laptop in a
| > car near you could pass a virus to your
| > phone, corrupting your phone, from there
| > you head home and your home network and
| > PC is corrupted and finally the virus
| > corrupts the network.
| >
| > The limited use of mp3 is also due to
| > the same security measure's as
| > bluetooth. Layer 3 files or MP3's or
| > encrypted sound files that people can
| > download or even create there own using
| > there own software. The process in
| > creating or even downloading MP3's can
| > carry a virus that can cripple your
| > phones software. Therefore, we limited
| > or take out these features for the
| > safety of both our customers and the
| > network.
| >
| > Due to an unusual large amount of
| > e-mails received, we are taking slightly
| > longer to respond and we apologize for
| > the delay. We appreciate your patience.
| >
| > We appreciate your business. Thank you
| > for using Verizon Wireless products and
| > services.
| >
| >
| > KEn

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"NotMe" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>
> --
>
> "Scott" <how.do@you.do> wrote in message
> news:F8KdndcAo95TjmvfRVn-3w@adelphia.com...
> |
> | > > i got a virus from an mp3 before. I've gotten several viruses from
> mp3s
> | > > before. But I get my mp3s legally now so no worries about viruses.
> | >
> | > Hmmm.... imagine Microsoft disable Internet access because that's the
> way
> | > you can get viruses or illegal software )))
> | >
> | >
> | But to make the analogy more comparable, Microsoft would then have to be
> | your ISP and have sold you hardware for use on their system. This being
> | said, many ISP's limit or cap certain functionality. Interestingly
> enough,
> | many that complain about cellphone network or hardware restrictions
never
> | bat an eye at what the ISP's do.
>
> Could that be the things that ISP's do aren't intentionally designed to
miss
> lead / nickel and dime the customer base?

Really? Speed caps (to generate more revenue), Usenet caps, port blocks, no
guarantee of service........... all are designed to either nickel and dime
or mislead.

>
> To my view the only real difference between VZN's business plan and that
of
> Ken Lay's ENRON is that VZN's is not so blatantly illegal.
>

Please elaborate- I don't remember the part of Business 101 that makes it a
crime to actually charge for services rendered. Unless you re talking about
the limited functionality of the network if you don't want to pay extra, and
then you need to point me to successful companies that give away their
services for free.

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On 8/7/05 11:53 AM, in article QoednVAmFazCxWvfRVn-og@adelphia.com, "Scott"
wrote:

<snip>

>> To my view the only real difference between VZN's business plan and that
> of
>> Ken Lay's ENRON is that VZN's is not so blatantly illegal.
>>
>
> Please elaborate- I don't remember the part of Business 101 that makes it a
> crime to actually charge for services rendered. Unless you re talking about
> the limited functionality of the network if you don't want to pay extra, and
> then you need to point me to successful companies that give away their
> services for free.

You've nailed the seminal point - Verizon is in business to sell a product
to those who are willing to buy it....!

The commonly held notion that Verizon has "crippled" Bluetooth is silly in
the extreme. Words mean things.

Verizon made a business decision to selectively implement some, but not all,
of the features Bluetooth can provide. They implemented all the features
that matter, IMO. Complaining endlessly about being unable to transfer
photos and ring tones without paying for the privilege strikes me as puerile
whining. Most folks neither need nor want those "kiddy" functions.....

I like my v710 - it's a great phone, which I use as a phone and data modem,
I don't take pictures with it, I have a digital SLR for that purpose, and I
don't play MP3's on it, I have an iPod for that purpose and I could care
less about childish ring tones......

Soooooo, if someone wants those childish features, other carriers will
happily accommodate them, but they won't do it for free.....

PC

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In article <BF1BA926.401C%nospam@nospam.com>, nospam@nospam.com says...
>
> Verizon made a business decision to selectively implement some, but not all,
> of the features Bluetooth can provide. They implemented all the features
> that matter, IMO. Complaining endlessly about being unable to transfer
> photos and ring tones without paying for the privilege strikes me as puerile
> whining. Most folks neither need nor want those "kiddy" functions.....
>
> I like my v710 - it's a great phone, which I use as a phone and data modem,
> I don't take pictures with it, I have a digital SLR for that purpose, and I
> don't play MP3's on it, I have an iPod for that purpose and I could care
> less about childish ring tones......

You see.... so why you can not use E815 as datamodem? It is not hardware
issue. Verizon disabled this option .... and yes ... you can enable it
yourself.

AP