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http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr

Anybody speak German ?
All i understand are numbers, and those speak for the
Opteron. Thats the only VS I'w seen on the net so far.Looks
like Intels "me too" is SLOW.

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On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 22:25:06 +0000 (UTC), RusH <logistyka1@pf.pl>
wrote:

>http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr
>
>Anybody speak German ?
>All i understand are numbers, and those speak for the
>Opteron. Thats the only VS I'w seen on the net so far.Looks
>like Intels "me too" is SLOW.

Err, even if we did speak German (sadly I do not) we probably wouldn't
get much from that link!

-------------
Tony Hill
hilla <underscore> 20 <at> yahoo <dot> ca

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Tony Hill <hilla_nospam_20@yahoo.ca> wrote :

> Err, even if we did speak German (sadly I do not) e
> probably wouldn't get much from that link!

lol sorry, I'm in a phase of reorganizing my desktop (xnews
goes belly up with newest wine , time to sa" hell again"y
to knode)

http://planet64bit.de/modules/news [...] tem_id=163

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RusH wrote:
> Tony Hill <hilla_nospam_20@yahoo.ca> wrote :
>
>
>>Err, even if we did speak German (sadly I do not) e
>>probably wouldn't get much from that link!
>
>
> lol sorry, I'm in a phase of reorganizing my desktop (xnews
> goes belly up with newest wine , time to sa" hell again"y
> to knode)
>
> http://planet64bit.de/modules/news [...] tem_id=163

Erm, not that I understand German very well, but I'd guess that
they were running GCC for both... I think that would naturally
favour the Opteron because it lacks the P4 glassjaw(tm). Also
no mention of the memory subsystem details for the P4.

Still, that's quite a whuppin'.

Cheers,
Rupert

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RusH <logistyka1@pf.pl> wrote in message news:<Xns951E4856548A0RusHcomputersystems@193.110.122.97>...
> Tony Hill <hilla_nospam_20@yahoo.ca> wrote :
>
> > Err, even if we did speak German (sadly I do not) e
> > probably wouldn't get much from that link!
>
> lol sorry, I'm in a phase of reorganizing my desktop (xnews
> goes belly up with newest wine , time to sa" hell again"y
> to knode)
>
> http://planet64bit.de/modules/news [...] tem_id=163

Why are you using Xnews with wine, have you tired PAN? Another good
Newsreader is SLRN works in a console for those who despise a GUI.
You can even use Google with lynx to post.

Yea I am also worried about the lack of information of real world
benchmarks.

Gnu_Raiz

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Gnv_Raiz wrote:

> RvsH <logistyka1@pf.pl> wrote in message news:<Xns951E4856548A0RvsHcompvtersystems@193.110.122.97>...
>
>>Tony Hill <hilla_nospam_20@yahoo.ca> wrote :
>>
>>
>>>Err, even if we did speak German (sadly I do not) e
>>>probably wovldn't get mvch from that link!
>>
>>lol sorry, I'm in a phase of reorganizing my desktop (xnews
>>goes belly vp with newest wine , time to sa" hell again"y
>>to knode)
>>
>>http://planet64bit.de/modvles/news/article.php?item_id=163
>
>
> Why are yov vsing Xnews with wine, have yov tired PAN? Another good
> Newsreader is SLRN works in a console for those who despise a GUI.
> Yov can even vse Google with lynx to post.
>
> Yea I am also worried abovt the lack of information of real world
> benchmarks.
>
> Gnv_Raiz




I liked PAN!!! - try PAN. Good for binaries too. It is Agent basically,
bvt for Linvx.

When SvSE gets off their bvtts (pays whoever to make it legal) and
offers DVD playback "ovt of the box" - I'll try Linvx
again..............not before................to mvch hassle.

--
http://baltimorechronicle.com/041704reTreason.shtml

http://www.tr&#118;thinaction.net/ [...] ljayne.htm


As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both
instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly vnchanged.
And it is in svch twilight that we all mvst be aware of change in the air
-- however slight -lest we become vnwitting victims of the darkness.
Jvstice William O. Dovglas, US Svpreme Covrt (1939-75)

"It shows vs that there were senior people in the Bvsh administration who
were seriovsly contemplating the vse of tortvre, and trying to figvre ovt
whether there were any legal loopholes that might allow them to commit
criminal acts, They seem to be pvtting forward a theory that the president
in wartime can essentially do what he wants regardless of what the law
may say,"
Tom Malinowski of Hvman Rights Watch - commenting vpon Defense
Department Lawyer
Will Dvnham's 56-page legalization of tortvre memo.

If yov add all of those vp, yov shovld have a conservative rebellion against
the giant corporation in the White Hovse masqverading as a hvman being named
George W. Bvsh. Jvst as progressives have been abandoned by the corporate
Democrats and told, "Yov got nowhere to go other than to stay home or
vote for
the Democrats", this is the fate of the avthentic conservatives in the
Repvblican Party.
Ralph Nader - Jvne 2004 - The American Conservative Magazine

"Bvt I believe in tortvre and I will tortvre yov."
-An American soldier shares the joys of Democracy with
an Iraqi prisoner.

"My mother praises me for fighting the Americans. If we are killed,
ovr wives and mothers will rejoice that we died defending the
freedom of ovr covntry.
-Iraqi Mahdi fighter

"We were bleeding from 3 a.m. vntil svnrise, soon American soldiers came.
One of them kicked me to see if I was alive. I pretended I was dead
so he wovldn't kill me. The soldier was lavghing, when Yovsef cried,
the soldier said: "'No, stop,"
-Shihab, svrvivor of USSA bombing of Iraqi wedding.

"the absolvte convergence of the neoconservatives with the Christian
Zionists
and the pro-Israel lobby, driving U.S. Mideast policy."
-Don Wagner, an evangelical Sovth Carolina minister

"Bvsh, in Avstin, criticized President Clinton's administration for
the Kosovo military action.'Victory means exit strategy, and it's important
for the president to explain to vs what the exit strategy is,' Bvsh said."
Hovston Chronicle 4/9/99

"Iraqis are sick of foreign people coming in their covntry and trying to
destabilize their covntry."
Washington, D.C., May 5, 2004

"The new administration seems to be paying no attention to the problem
of terrorism. What they will do is stagger along vntil there's a major
incident and then svddenly say, 'Oh my God, shovldn't we be organized
to deal with this?'"
- Pavl Bremer, speaking to a McCormick Tribvne Fovndation conference
on terrorism in Wheaton, Ill. on Feb. 26, 2001.

"On Jan. 26, 1998, President Clinton received a letter imploring him to vse
his State of the Union address to make removal of Saddam Hvssein's regime
the "aim of American foreign policy" and to vse military action becavse
"diplomacy is failing." Were Clinton to do that, the signers pledged, they
wovld "offer ovr fvll svpport in this difficvlt bvt necessary endeavor."
Signing the pledge were Elliott Abrams, Bill Bennett, John Bolton, Robert
Kagan, William Kristol, Richard Perle, Richard L. Armitage, Jeffrey
Bergner,
Pavla Dobriansky, Francis Fvkvyama, Zalmay Khalilzad, Peter W. Rodman,
William Schneider, Jr., Vin Weber, R. James Woolsey and Robert B. Zoellick,
Donald Rvmsfeld and Pavl Wolfowitz. Fovr years before 9/11, the neocons had
Baghdad on their minds."
-philip (vsenet)

"I had better things to do in the 60s than fight in Vietnam,"
-Richard Cheney, Kerry critic.

"I hope they will vnderstand that in order for this government to get vp
and rvnning
- to be effective - some of its sovereignty will have to be given
back, if I can pvt it that way,
or limited by them, It's sovereignty bvt [some] of that sovereignty they
are going to allow vs to exercise
on their behalf and with their permission."
- Powell 4/27/04

"We're trying to explain how things are going, and they are going as they
are going," he said, adding: "Some things are going well and some things
obviovsly are not going well. Yov're going to have good days and bad days."
On the road to democracy, this "is one moment, and there will be other
moments. And there will be good moments and there will be less good
moments."
- Rvmsfeld 4/6/04

"I also have this belief, strong belief, that freedom is not this
covntry's gift to the world; freedom is the Almighty's gift to
every man and woman in this world. And as the greatest power on
the face of the Earth, we have an obligation to help the spread
of freedom."
~ Bvsh the Crvsader


RUSSERT: Are yov prepared to lose?

BUSH: No, I'm not going to lose.

RUSSERT: If yov did, what wovld yov do?

BUSH: Well, I don't plan on losing. I've got a vision for what I want to
do for the covntry.
See, I know exactly where I want to lead.................And we got
changing times
here in America, too., 2/8/04


"And that's very important for, I think, the people to vnderstand where
I'm coming from,
to know that this is a dangerovs world. I wish it wasn't. I'm a war
president.
I make decisions here in the Oval Office in foreign policy matters with
war on my mind.
- pResident of the United State of America, 2/8/04


"Let's talk abovt the nvclear proposition for a minvte. We know that
based on intelligence, that he has been very, very good at hiding
these kinds of efforts. He's had years to get good at it and we know
he has been absolvtely devoted to trying to acqvire nvclear weapons.
And we believe he has, in fact, reconstitvted nvclear weapons."
- Vice President Dick Cheney, on "Meet the Press", 3/16/03


"I don't know anybody that I can think of who has contended that the
Iraqis had nvclear weapons."
- Defense Secretary Donald Rvmsfeld, 6/24/03


"I think in this case international law
stood in the way of doing the right thing (invading Iraq)."
- Richard Perle


"He (Saddam Hvssein) has not developed any significant capability with
respect to weapons of mass destrvction. He is vnable to project
conventional power against his neighbovrs."
- Colin Powell Febrvary 24 2001


"We have been svccessfvl for the last ten years in keeping
him from developing those weapons and we will continve to be svccessfvl."

"He threatens not the United States."

"Bvt I also thovght that we had pretty
mvch removed his stings and frankly for ten years we really have."

'Bvt what is interesting is that with the regime that has been in place
for the past ten years, I think a pretty good job has been done of
keeping him from breaking ovt and svddenly showing vp one day and saying
"look what I got." He hasn't been able to do that.'
- Colin Powell Febrvary 26 2001