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At the moment I'm using NIS 2004 Pro. To my opinion it's using to much
resources during surfing the internet. I want to give another firewall
a try.

Although I know that firewalling is very much subject to personal
preferences, I want to ask: What is the best software firewall......
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]-[ans

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]-[ans wrote:

(snipped)

> Although I know that firewalling is very much subject to personal
> preferences, I want to ask: What is the best software firewall.


The best firewall is "Air Gap" manufactured by you.

This is an easy to employ firewall; simply disconnect
your computer from the internet, unplug it, "air gap."

Second best firewall is to turn your computer off.

I could not resist commenting.

Any up to debating those methods are not the best firewalls?

Zone Alarm 3.x series is the best "personal" firewall I have
tested, to date. That is the free version, not the pro version.

Yes, that is the 3.x series, not the 4.x series nor 5.x series.


Purl Gurl

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On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 09:12:37 -0700, Purl Gurl <purlgurl@purlgurl.net>
wrote:

> ]-[ans wrote:
>
> (snipped)
>
> > Although I know that firewalling is very much subject to personal
> > preferences, I want to ask: What is the best software firewall.
>
>
> The best firewall is "Air Gap" manufactured by you.
>
> This is an easy to employ firewall; simply disconnect
> your computer from the internet, unplug it, "air gap."
>
> Second best firewall is to turn your computer off.
>
> I could not resist commenting.
>
> Any up to debating those methods are not the best firewalls?
>
> Zone Alarm 3.x series is the best "personal" firewall I have
> tested, to date. That is the free version, not the pro version.
>
> Yes, that is the 3.x series, not the 4.x series nor 5.x series.
>
>
> Purl Gurl


Thanks, I'll give Air Gap a try. Seems to be a solid product.....

Do you think that switching off my computer improves it's specs?

I won't be able though to respond to your future messages due to
strick firewall settings. argh, argh.....
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]-[ans

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]-[ans wrote:

> Purl Gurl wrote:
> > ]-[ans wrote:

(snipped)

> > > Although I know that firewalling is very much subject to personal
> > > preferences, I want to ask: What is the best software firewall.

> > The best firewall is "Air Gap" manufactured by you.

> Thanks, I'll give Air Gap a try. Seems to be a solid product.....

> Do you think that switching off my computer improves it's specs?

Well, I dunno if your specs will improve but there is
always this excitement of,

"Will my computer boot or not?"

Fifty-fifty bet on that!


> I won't be able though to respond to your future messages due to
> strick firewall settings. argh, argh.....

Heh! I told you Air Gap is the best!


Besides Zone Alarm, I understand Sysgate is pretty good, as well.


Purl Gurl

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On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 09:38:02 -0700, Purl Gurl <purlgurl@purlgurl.net>
wrote:

> ]-[ans wrote:
>
> > Purl Gurl wrote:
> > > ]-[ans wrote:
>
> (snipped)
>
> > > > Although I know that firewalling is very much subject to personal
> > > > preferences, I want to ask: What is the best software firewall.
>
> > > The best firewall is "Air Gap" manufactured by you.
>
> > Thanks, I'll give Air Gap a try. Seems to be a solid product.....
>
> > Do you think that switching off my computer improves it's specs?
>
> Well, I dunno if your specs will improve but there is
> always this excitement of,
>
> "Will my computer boot or not?"
>
> Fifty-fifty bet on that!
To boot or not to boot, that's the question...
(shakespeertopeer 2004)
>
>
> > I won't be able though to respond to your future messages due to
> > strick firewall settings. argh, argh.....
>
> Heh! I told you Air Gap is the best!
>
>
> Besides Zone Alarm, I understand Sysgate is pretty good, as well.
>
I'm looking at it right now.
>
> Purl Gurl

Thanks
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]-[ans

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]-[ans wrote:

> Purl Gurl wrote:
> > ]-[ans wrote:
> > > Purl Gurl wrote:
> > > > ]-[ans wrote:

]-snipped-[

> > Well, I dunno if your specs will improve but there is
> > always this excitement of,

> > "Will my computer boot or not?"

> > Fifty-fifty bet on that!

> To boot or not to boot, that's the question...
> (shakespeertopeer 2004)

"I boot, therefore I am."
- HAL


Purl Gurl

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On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 17:21:05 +0200, ]-[ans spoketh

>At the moment I'm using NIS 2004 Pro. To my opinion it's using to much
>resources during surfing the internet. I want to give another firewall
>a try.
>
>Although I know that firewalling is very much subject to personal
>preferences, I want to ask: What is the best software firewall......
>_______________________
>]-[ans

There is no "best" firewall.

The best firewall is the one you are most familiar with. There's plenty
of free options out there, including ZoneAlarm, Tiny, Kerio and Outpost.

It should be noted that NIS is more than just a firewall. If you opt to
remove it, you should also consider getting a new anti-virus solution.

Lars M. Hansen
www.hansenonline.net
Remove "bad" from my e-mail address to contact me.
"If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done?"

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On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 17:54:19 GMT, Lars M. Hansen
<badnews@hansenonline.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 17:21:05 +0200, ]-[ans spoketh
>
> >At the moment I'm using NIS 2004 Pro. To my opinion it's using to much
> >resources during surfing the internet. I want to give another firewall
> >a try.
> >
> >Although I know that firewalling is very much subject to personal
> >preferences, I want to ask: What is the best software firewall......
> >_______________________
> >]-[ans
>
> There is no "best" firewall.
>
> The best firewall is the one you are most familiar with. There's plenty
> of free options out there, including ZoneAlarm, Tiny, Kerio and Outpost.
>
> It should be noted that NIS is more than just a firewall.

I fully agree with that. But still, I notice that it considerably
slows down my connection surfing the internet due to large resource
consumption. That's why I would like to have some feedback from users
with other firewall experiences. The two things though I like about
NIS is the very well working options ad-blocking and password manager.

> If you opt to remove it, you should also consider getting a new
> anti-virus solution.

Of couse.....

>
> Lars M. Hansen
> www.hansenonline.net
> Remove "bad" from my e-mail address to contact me.
> "If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done?"

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]-[ans

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"Lars M. Hansen" <badnews@hansenonline.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 17:21:05 +0200, ]-[ans spoketh
>
>> At the moment I'm using NIS 2004 Pro. To my opinion it's using to
>> much resources during surfing the internet. I want to give another
>> firewall a try.

>>
>> Although I know that firewalling is very much subject to personal
>> preferences, I want to ask: What is the best software firewall......
>> _______________________
>> ]-[ans
>
> There is no "best" firewall.
>
> The best firewall is the one you are most familiar with. There's
> plenty of free options out there, including ZoneAlarm, Tiny, Kerio
> and Outpost.
>
> It should be noted that NIS is more than just a firewall. If you opt
> to remove it, you should also consider getting a new anti-virus
> solution.
>
> Lars M. Hansen
> www.hansenonline.net
> Remove "bad" from my e-mail address to contact me.
> "If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done?"

Why does everyone always assume that the best software is free software?
That is crock of horse hockey. When people get paid for their work, they
do a much better job.

PAY FOR YOUR SOFTWARE, you GREEDY BIRD!!!

As the Dutch are fond of saying, "There's no such thing as a free lunch."

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On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 20:20:38 +0200, "]-[ans" <nomail@nomail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 17:54:19 GMT, Lars M. Hansen
><badnews@hansenonline.net> wrote:

<SNIP>

>> It should be noted that NIS is more than just a firewall.
>
>I fully agree with that. But still, I notice that it considerably
>slows down my connection surfing the internet due to large resource
>consumption. That's why I would like to have some feedback from users
>with other firewall experiences. The two things though I like about
>NIS is the very well working options ad-blocking and password manager.
>
>> If you opt to remove it, you should also consider getting a new
>> anti-virus solution.
>
>Of couse.....
>
>>
>> Lars M. Hansen
>> www.hansenonline.net
>> Remove "bad" from my e-mail address to contact me.
>> "If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done?"
>
>______________________________________________________________________
>]-[ans

]-[ans,

One of the reasons why NIS (and ZA has been noted to also) uses resources is
from having to identify, resolve, and log the trash traffic from thousands of
infected computers on the internet, some of which generate probes that hit your
LAN.

Protect yourself behind a hardware firewall (NAT router), and all that trash
gets blocked by the router. Your computer will run cleaner, even with NIS (or
ZA) running, it will do less work. And it will be safer from zero-day exploits,
which are going to become more common.

With a NAT router costing about as much as one or two months internet fees, you
can't afford not to use one.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

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On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 11:35:48 -0700, Donald McDaniel spoketh

>
>Why does everyone always assume that the best software is free software?
>That is crock of horse hockey. When people get paid for their work, they
>do a much better job.
>
>PAY FOR YOUR SOFTWARE, you GREEDY BIRD!!!
>

The problem with security suites such as NIS and McAfee ISS is that they
are bloated. They are huge, both on disk and in memory, and that taxes
the system more than it has to.

The "alternative" solutions, such as Kerio and Tiny, aren't trying to be
all things to all people, but rather a small, fast desktop firewall
solution. Thus, they take up less resources, and doesn't slow down
things as much as a larger application.

It's not a question of best, it's a question of which does a better job
on a given system without taxing it to death.

Lars M. Hansen
www.hansenonline.net
Remove "bad" from my e-mail address to contact me.
"If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done?"

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In article <6jgmc0pse4e8ra3ktktp6ah1qjgek03s99@4ax.com>, badnews@hansenonline.net says...
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 17:21:05 +0200, ]-[ans spoketh
>
> >At the moment I'm using NIS 2004 Pro. To my opinion it's using to much
> >resources during surfing the internet. I want to give another firewall
> >a try.
> >
> >Although I know that firewalling is very much subject to personal
> >preferences, I want to ask: What is the best software firewall......
> >_______________________
> >]-[ans
>
> There is no "best" firewall.
>
> The best firewall is the one you are most familiar with. There's plenty
> of free options out there, including ZoneAlarm, Tiny, Kerio and Outpost.
>
> It should be noted that NIS is more than just a firewall. If you opt to
> remove it, you should also consider getting a new anti-virus solution.
>
> Lars M. Hansen
> www.hansenonline.net
> Remove "bad" from my e-mail address to contact me.
> "If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done?"
>
There's plenty
of free options out there, including Sygate, ZoneAlarm, Tiny, Kerio
and Outpost.

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"Purl Gurl" <purlgurl@purlgurl.net> schreef in bericht
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> ]-[ans wrote:
>
> (snipped)
>
> > Although I know that firewalling is very much subject to personal
> > preferences, I want to ask: What is the best software firewall.
>
>
> The best firewall is "Air Gap" manufactured by you.


I'm afraid "Air Gap" isn't going to give you much protection when using a
wireless network.




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In article <jbbnc0ho8n7tio5tp27obfh42r8hg673sl@4ax.com>,
badnews@hansenonline.net says...
> Companies can offer free software because it is a great way to advertise
> their products. People download and use their free products, and then
> decide the need the advanced features of the full products. Essentially,
> free advertising. Those who doesn't upgrade to the pay-for full version
> probably wouldn't have paid for any such product anyway.

I agree with Lars - that's the same tactic that Apple used to almost get
the Apple PC into the homes and business ahead of the IBM type PC.

People that use a free product know it's limited, but those people act
as mini-advertisers for others and the end result is that more people
purchase their pay products because of it.


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"Donald McDaniel" <orthocrossNOSPAMPLEASE@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
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> "Lars M. Hansen" <badnews@hansenonline.net> wrote in message
> news:6jgmc0pse4e8ra3ktktp6ah1qjgek03s99@4ax.com
> > On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 17:21:05 +0200, ]-[ans spoketh
> >
> >> At the moment I'm using NIS 2004 Pro. To my opinion it's using to
> >> much resources during surfing the internet. I want to give another
> >> firewall a try.
>
> >>
> >> Although I know that firewalling is very much subject to personal
> >> preferences, I want to ask: What is the best software firewall......
> >> _______________________
> >> ]-[ans
> >
> > There is no "best" firewall.
> >
> > The best firewall is the one you are most familiar with. There's
> > plenty of free options out there, including ZoneAlarm, Tiny, Kerio
> > and Outpost.
> >
> > It should be noted that NIS is more than just a firewall. If you opt
> > to remove it, you should also consider getting a new anti-virus
> > solution.
> >
> > Lars M. Hansen
> > www.hansenonline.net
> > Remove "bad" from my e-mail address to contact me.
> > "If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done?"
>
> Why does everyone always assume that the best software is free software?
> That is crock of horse hockey. When people get paid for their work, they
> do a much better job.

What a load of bollocks. Zone Alarm for example has a free version that is
in all respects the same as the paid for version. It just lacks some
features that a home user might not need. It may be free but it was still
written by people that get paid a wage. Having said that, reading some of
the reports of problems on the latest version they perhaps shouldn't have
been paid quite so much:-)

You have mis-read and twisted what Lars said.

Just as it is true that the best software is not free, neither is every
commercial application the best.

The best software is the one that does the job within the budget constraints
of the customer. I have clients that have huge Watchguard firewalls and
others that have secondhand PCs running IPcop. Each solution is the best for
them.


> PAY FOR YOUR SOFTWARE, you GREEDY BIRD!!!

Why when an open source solution will do the job better than a commercial
solution?

I wonder why the top web server is Apache and not IIS?

I wonder why most ISP mail servers are sendmail and postfix and not
Exchange?

The answer is simple. They are the right tools for the job.

> As the Dutch are fond of saying, "There's no such thing as a free lunch."

Quite right. Op