I'm trying to think of ways to increase the effectiveness of my watercooling system. Not to go overboard mind you, just enough to get the processor around room temp.

My first thought was running a long length of copper pipe down to the sump-pump area. There's always a small pool of water down there that gets replenished by ground water.

Problem is, I'm about 60 feet from that area, and I don't think my Eheim water pump would appreciate that.

Why don't you just hook the waterbocks up to your city water supply trough a filter and let the other side drain into the sewer... No pump, no radiator, no electrical connections, nothing... just lotsa plain ole water flowing through the computer at something less than room temperature.

No joke... I actually know one guy who did this... worked pretty good too.




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Yeah, but that uses a lot of water, and it can get expensive.

Alternatively, you could use a combination. Use the sump pump to feed a tank in the room with the computer, and then use the pump in your computer to feed a length of hose in the sump water, so that the cold sump water cools the computer water. That might work a bit better, and be a bit more economical.

You could also use an old fridge/freezer/air conditioner compressor to cool a bunch of water, and use that through the cooling system. Having 1-2 degree water (add antifreeze so it won't be circulating ice) running through there instead of 25 degree water would make for some nice cooling, and a fun project too.

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I was over at an auto wreckers a little while ago and saw the most beautiful collection of possible water radiators... all stripped from cars.

Some were intercoolers, some oil coolers, some heater cores. all wonderful possibilities for mounting multiple 92mm or 120mm fans.
And most having very low path resistance.

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thats what i will be setting up my watercooling setup from (going to be welding barbs onto it tomorrow) - a 1967 Buick heater-core, its 12 1/2" long by 6 wide and 2 1/2" thick, and no corrosion, no dirt, nothing... just a matter of building a stylin' (lol) retention mechanism... i've even seen someone cool with no fan by using a massive radiator (probably about 24" on all sides, and about 3" thick)... might be an option - or use the "fish tank" idea - fill a tank with the water you'll use, and since its a huge pool of the water it'll cool alot easier and closer to room temp

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I'm not a CPU water cooling expert by any means, but have you ever added something like <A HREF="http://www.redlineoil.com/redlineoil/wwti.htm" target="_new">Red Line's Water Wetter?</A> to your system? Racers use it to improve heat transfer in their car's cooling system, and lower their engine block temps.


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au contraire, it doesn't lower temps, it just prevents corrosion and algae build up. if it created lower temps, you'd run nothing BUT that in your engine/computer
it doesn't hurt the thermal properties of the water too badly though, so it's good stuff

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I use Sodium Hydroxide. It's the same thing as Water Wetter just without the pretty packaging.

Au contraire, yourself. But you go ahead and believe that if you want.

Nobody's going to use JUST that, because it doesn't lower the freezing point of water, and thus doesn't do the job of an antifreeze. Its proper use means mixing it WITH water; one bottle per about every 14 quarts.


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Well, in theory it should help in cooling. Since it decreases the water's surface tension. But we're talking on the order of a few degrees. not very spectacular.

I hear that Methanol is the best coolant to use. But it releases toxic fumes so you'll have to have a sealed cooling circut.

I'm still brainstorming on increasing the effectivness on my system.

The "tapwater running thought the waterblocks then into the sewer" idea is out of the question, there are harsh water restrictions here. So even the sump water may dry up eventually.

However, water or no water, the ground still maintains a year-round temp of around 55*F.

Ummm... you do realize that was posted in keeping with the "hairbrained shemes" subject of the thread... I do know one guy who tried it, but I certainly would never recommend it.




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i'm talking about using PURE water wetter. if it's a great thermal conductor, and you're not dealing with freezing water (as you wouldn't be in a water cooling system), why not use only water wetter in your system? it's cheap enough, anyone could do it
but they don't
because it doesn't have as good of thermal properties as water
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Umm, yeah, I know you were talking about that. But I think I'll take the word of racing professionals over that of some unknown person on a PC message board. Thanks, anyway.

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Man forget the watercooling and tie into your homes AC freon line using high pressure hose and a circulating pump, all you have to do is circulate the freon to gain its cooling capabilities, beats the heck out of watercooling.



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you mean you'll take the word of water wetter MARKETING professionals
sure thing, go for it

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No, that's not what I meant at all, actually. I was talking about a few guys I know that spend more time on the track than off of it. I've never talked to anybody that works for Red Line Oil.

Look dude, I'm just throwing out ideas for LCARS, which is what the whole thread was supposed to be about. If you don't want to use the idea, then fine, don't use it. I really couldn't care less.

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War Eagle<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Auburn9698 on 04/28/03 11:35 AM.</EM></FONT></P>