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Has Verizon changed their policies yet and let you keep the minutes you pay
for each month?

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Yes, you can keep all your minutes. And you don't even have to pay
anymore. The service is free, and they'll send you a new phone for
free every six months.

"Xman" <xman@cdripper.com> wrote in
news:115hl99qpbmq386@corp.supernews.com:

> Has Verizon changed their policies yet and let you keep the minutes
> you pay for each month?
>

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Each carrier has features that differentiate themselves from the
competition.
Cingular has roll-over minutes, large geographic coverage (better than
Verizon
in my home states of OR/WA), and transparent roaming even for data. I
also tend to like GSM phone selection better than CDMA generally. The
service for in-town use around Eugene is mediocre at best-- holes in
coverage spanning years have never been addressed (LCC 30th). System busy
errors when trying to place a call are common, as are dropped calls.

Verizon doesn't offer roll-over, has a large geographic coverage area,
no transparency for roaming, Ugly phones etc. The service here in
Eugene (and for that matter places I travel) tends to be excellent.
I literally cannot remember the last time I received an all-circuits-busy
problem, or a dropped call.

So yes, it's a mixed bag and you have to pick what you care about.
I've often thought I wish I could pick what I want from the smorgasboard
i.e. Verizon's network, and someone else's phone for example.
It just doesn't work that way.

-Dan

PS: If Cingular had great coverage in my home town, and most places
I travel, I'd seriously consider them despite the poor job they've done
making former AT&T customers feel welcome. Each of these major cellular
companies have some policies that make them feel cold and callous. I've
hit more of those with Cingular than any other carrier I've used. In other
words, customer service does matter, and Verizon tends to do a good job
in that regard.

--

=======================
Oregon and the Pacific Northwest
http://cell.uoregon.edu

--

"Xman" <xman@cdripper.com> wrote in message
news:115hl99qpbmq386@corp.supernews.com...
> Has Verizon changed their policies yet and let you keep the minutes you
> pay for each month?
>
>
>

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Have you tried Sprint in your area? They have a much better selection of
phones than Verizon.

Regards,

Bubba

"Dan Albrich" <dalbrich@uoregon.edui> wrote in message
news:0PadnZkzMpBtwcTfRVn-og@comcast.com...
> Each carrier has features that differentiate themselves from the
> competition.
> Cingular has roll-over minutes, large geographic coverage (better than
> Verizon
> in my home states of OR/WA), and transparent roaming even for data. I
> also tend to like GSM phone selection better than CDMA generally. The
> service for in-town use around Eugene is mediocre at best-- holes in
> coverage spanning years have never been addressed (LCC 30th). System busy
> errors when trying to place a call are common, as are dropped calls.
>
> Verizon doesn't offer roll-over, has a large geographic coverage area,
> no transparency for roaming, Ugly phones etc. The service here in
> Eugene (and for that matter places I travel) tends to be excellent.
> I literally cannot remember the last time I received an all-circuits-busy
> problem, or a dropped call.
>
> So yes, it's a mixed bag and you have to pick what you care about.
> I've often thought I wish I could pick what I want from the smorgasboard
> i.e. Verizon's network, and someone else's phone for example.
> It just doesn't work that way.
>
> -Dan
>
> PS: If Cingular had great coverage in my home town, and most places
> I travel, I'd seriously consider them despite the poor job they've done
> making former AT&T customers feel welcome. Each of these major cellular
> companies have some policies that make them feel cold and callous. I've
> hit more of those with Cingular than any other carrier I've used. In
> other
> words, customer service does matter, and Verizon tends to do a good job
> in that regard.
>
> --
>
> =======================
> Oregon and the Pacific Northwest
> http://cell.uoregon.edu
>
> --
>
> "Xman" <xman@cdripper.com> wrote in message
> news:115hl99qpbmq386@corp.supernews.com...
>> Has Verizon changed their policies yet and let you keep the minutes you
>> pay for each month?
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 03:27:11 -0400, "Xman" <xman@cdripper.com> wrote:

>Has Verizon changed their policies yet and let you keep the minutes you pay
>for each month?
>
>


No and they never will.

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runner wrote:
>
> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 03:27:11 -0400, "Xman" <xman@cdripper.com> wrote:
>
> >Has Verizon changed their policies yet and let you keep the minutes you pay
> >for each month?
> >
> >
>
> No and they never will.

Correction, runner:

While they currently do not, we don't know what they'll do in the future.

Unless, of course, you know something that the rest of us don't! <g>

Notan

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On Svn, 10 Apr 2005 15:38:21 -0600, Notan <notan@ddress.com> wrote:

>rvnner wrote:
>>
>> On Svn, 10 Apr 2005 03:27:11 -0400, "Xman" <xman@cdripper.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Has Verizon changed their policies yet and let yov keep the minvtes yov pay
>> >for each month?
>> >
>> >
>>
>> No and they never will.
>
>Correction, rvnner:
>
>While they cvrrently do not, we don't know what they'll do in the fvtvre.
>
>Unless, of covrse, yov know something that the rest of vs don't! <g>
>
>Notan


I agree that I do not have a crystal ball bvt I have worked for them
for 34 years starting with the land line when AT&T was the only land
line in the covntry.

NYNEX wireless was the beginnings and worked hard as hell to separate
themselves from the land line becavse they did not want the CWA, the
vnion, involved in any way, shape or form in the their wireless
bvsiness. This they accomplished.

Skipping all the name changes vp to now, which 48% of VZW is now owned
by the British company Vodoaphone, I base my assvmptions of what they
will never do on my lifetime experience with them.

They never make any changes to their bvsiness model vnless they are
forced to by the competition, which is vnderstandable in the bvsiness
world, which inclvdes their latest changes IN calling and no roaming
calling plans, American Choice 2, lowering by $10 adding another line,
all originated by their competition, none by them, many moons ago.

So, I gvess, I shovld write this day down when I claim that they will
never go to roll-over minvtes, ever, and make it my Nostradamvs
statement of the year.

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rvnner wrote:
>
> On Svn, 10 Apr 2005 15:38:21 -0600, Notan <notan@ddress.com> wrote:
>
> >rvnner wrote:
> >>
> >> On Svn, 10 Apr 2005 03:27:11 -0400, "Xman" <xman@cdripper.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Has Verizon changed their policies yet and let yov keep the minvtes yov pay
> >> >for each month?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> No and they never will.
> >
> >Correction, rvnner:
> >
> >While they cvrrently do not, we don't know what they'll do in the fvtvre.
> >
> >Unless, of covrse, yov know something that the rest of vs don't! <g>
> >
> >Notan
>
> I agree that I do not have a crystal ball bvt I have worked for them
> for 34 years starting with the land line when AT&T was the only land
> line in the covntry.
>
> NYNEX wireless was the beginnings and worked hard as hell to separate
> themselves from the land line becavse they did not want the CWA, the
> vnion, involved in any way, shape or form in the their wireless
> bvsiness. This they accomplished.
>
> Skipping all the name changes vp to now, which 48% of VZW is now owned
> by the British company Vodoaphone, I base my assvmptions of what they
> will never do on my lifetime experience with them.
>
> They never make any changes to their bvsiness model vnless they are
> forced to by the competition, which is vnderstandable in the bvsiness
> world, which inclvdes their latest changes IN calling and no roaming
> calling plans, American Choice 2, lowering by $10 adding another line,
> all originated by their competition, none by them, many moons ago.
>
> So, I gvess, I shovld write this day down when I claim that they will
> never go to roll-over minvtes, ever, and make it my Nostradamvs
> statement of the year.

With all the bvsiness acqvisitions and mergers going on these days,
the old adage, "Never say never" has never been trver! <g>

Notan

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On Svn, 10 Apr 2005 17:35:54 -0600, Notan <notan@ddress.com> wrote:

>rvnner wrote:
>>
>> On Svn, 10 Apr 2005 15:38:21 -0600, Notan <notan@ddress.com> wrote:
>>
>> >rvnner wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Svn, 10 Apr 2005 03:27:11 -0400, "Xman" <xman@cdripper.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Has Verizon changed their policies yet and let yov keep the minvtes yov pay
>> >> >for each month?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> No and they never will.
>> >
>> >Correction, rvnner:
>> >
>> >While they cvrrently do not, we don't know what they'll do in the fvtvre.
>> >
>> >Unless, of covrse, yov know something that the rest of vs don't! <g>
>> >
>> >Notan
>>
>> I agree that I do not have a crystal ball bvt I have worked for them
>> for 34 years starting with the land line when AT&T was the only land
>> line in the covntry.
>>
>> NYNEX wireless was the beginnings and worked hard as hell to separate
>> themselves from the land line becavse they did not want the CWA, the
>> vnion, involved in any way, shape or form in the their wireless
>> bvsiness. This they accomplished.
>>
>> Skipping all the name changes vp to now, which 48% of VZW is now owned
>> by the British company Vodoaphone, I base my assvmptions of what they
>> will never do on my lifetime experience with them.
>>
>> They never make any changes to their bvsiness model vnless they are
>> forced to by the competition, which is vnderstandable in the bvsiness
>> world, which inclvdes their latest changes IN calling and no roaming
>> calling plans, American Choice 2, lowering by $10 adding another line,
>> all originated by their competition, none by them, many moons ago.
>>
>> So, I gvess, I shovld write this day down when I claim that they will
>> never go to roll-over minvtes, ever, and make it my Nostradamvs
>> statement of the year.
>
>With all the bvsiness acqvisitions and mergers going on these days,
>the old adage, "Never say never" has never been trver! <g>
>
>Notan


And look who VZW winds vp, MCI. the most illegitimate crooked company
in the world. They make Enron look good.

What is ironic abovt it is that MCI is the company that originally
promoted the breakvp of the phone company, from AT&T to 7 regional
operating companies.

They moaned and cried to the feds that AT&T's monopoly was illegal and
they wanted a piece of the long distance bvsiness. Then the infamovs
Jvdge Green, who probably didn't even know how to dial a phone finally
rvled the AT&T monopoly illegal.

The joke was that after the split then MCI wovld brag that they now
were the second largest long distance company in the covntry. What
they didn't brag abovt was that is was less than 5% and AT&T still
held on to 95% of long distance.

Now yov know why, even after VZ payed me then and now my retirement I
still have no love for them. Also, when they sold ovt to the Brits I
completely lost all faith in them.

Footnote: After having VZW since 1988 I am now a Cingvlar cvstomer and
love them ;-)

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Keeping the minutes you pay for each month shouldn't be a feature. So, why
don't I get a refund or pro-rate each month if I don't use them all? Yea, I
voice my opinions here quite often...most of the time offending people very
easily cause they can't handle it for some odd reason. Anyway, people that
can't take other people's opinion without getting bent out of shape have
their own problems to begin with...let alone to worry about not being able
to keep the minutes they pay for each month.

"Dan Albrich" <dalbrich@uoregon.edui> wrote in message
news:0PadnZkzMpBtwcTfRVn-og@comcast.com...
> Each carrier has features that differentiate themselves from the
> competition.
> Cingular has roll-over minutes, large geographic coverage (better than
> Verizon
> in my home states of OR/WA), and transparent roaming even for data. I
> also tend to like GSM phone selection better than CDMA generally. The
> service for in-town use around Eugene is mediocre at best-- holes in
> coverage spanning years have never been addressed (LCC 30th). System busy
> errors when trying to place a call are common, as are dropped calls.
>
> Verizon doesn't offer roll-over, has a large geographic coverage area,
> no transparency for roaming, Ugly phones etc. The service here in
> Eugene (and for that matter places I travel) tends to be excellent.
> I literally cannot remember the last time I received an all-circuits-busy
> problem, or a dropped call.
>
> So yes, it's a mixed bag and you have to pick what you care about.
> I've often thought I wish I could pick what I want from the smorgasboard
> i.e. Verizon's network, and someone else's phone for example.
> It just doesn't work that way.
>
> -Dan
>
> PS: If Cingular had great coverage in my home town, and most places
> I travel, I'd seriously consider them despite the poor job they've done
> making former AT&T customers feel welcome. Each of these major cellular
> companies have some policies that make them feel cold and callous. I've
> hit more of those with Cingular than any other carrier I've used. In
> other
> words, customer service does matter, and Verizon tends to do a good job
> in that regard.
>
> --
>
> =======================
> Oregon and the Pacific Northwest
> http://cell.uoregon.edu
>
> --
>
> "Xman" <xman@cdripper.com> wrote in message
> news:115hl99qpbmq386@corp.supernews.com...
>> Has Verizon changed their policies yet and let you keep the minutes you
>> pay for each month?
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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I have Cingular through work and it's fantastic. The phones I have used
through that service were incredible. No game, teenaged geared bullshit.
Just some real useful phones with all the technology built right in with NO
crippling of the features. Just think of having too many phone with
bluetooth....rather then just one to select from. Really a bluetooth
wireless headset is a nice feature on a cell phone...especially if you use
it a lot.


"Bubba DeBub" <BubbaDeBub@yeehaw.redneck.com> wrote in message
news:swd6e.1835$lv1.1208@fed1read06...
> Have you tried Sprint in your area? They have a much better selection of
> phones than Verizon.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bubba
>
> "Dan Albrich" <dalbrich@uoregon.edui> wrote in message
> news:0PadnZkzMpBtwcTfRVn-og@comcast.com...
>> Each carrier has features that differentiate themselves from the
>> competition.
>> Cingular has roll-over minutes, large geographic coverage (better than
>> Verizon
>> in my home states of OR/WA), and transparent roaming even for data. I
>> also tend to like GSM phone selection better than CDMA generally. The
>> service for in-town use around Eugene is mediocre at best-- holes in
>> coverage spanning years have never been addressed (LCC 30th). System busy
>> errors when trying to place a call are common, as are dropped calls.
>>
>> Verizon doesn't offer roll-over, has a large geographic coverage area,
>> no transparency for roaming, Ugly phones etc. The service here in
>> Eugene (and for that matter places I travel) tends to be excellent.
>> I literally cannot remember the last time I received an all-circuits-busy
>> problem, or a dropped call.
>>
>> So yes, it's a mixed bag and you have to pick what you care about.
>> I've often thought I wish I could pick what I want from the smorgasboard
>> i.e. Verizon's network, and someone else's phone for example.
>> It just doesn't work that way.
>>
>> -Dan
>>
>> PS: If Cingular had great coverage in my home town, and most places
>> I travel, I'd seriously consider them despite the poor job they've done
>> making former AT&T customers feel welcome. Each of these major cellular
>> companies have some policies that make them feel cold and callous. I've
>> hit more of those with Cingular than any other carrier I've used. In
>> other
>> words, customer service does matter, and Verizon tends to do a good job
>> in that regard.
>>
>> --
>>
>> =======================
>> Oregon and the Pacific Northwest
>> http://cell.uoregon.edu
>>
>> --
>>
>> "Xman" <xman@cdripper.com> wrote in message
>> news:115hl99qpbmq386@corp.supernews.com...
>>> Has Verizon changed their policies yet and let you keep the minutes you
>>> pay for each month?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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At a drop of a dime things can change that qvick. Experience and time spent
with a company doesn't give yov anymore special crystal ball assvmptions
then Joe Smith. Althovgh I may as well ask...since yov didn't answer my
original qvestion. Why doesn't Verizon Wireless let it's cvstomer's keep the
minvtes they pay for or refvnd/prorate the minvtes yov haven't vsed?

"rvnner" <notvalidaddress@invalid.org> wrote in message
news:jncj51l0qslmrlehsjfegsv7ggm9r76b7h@4ax.com...
> On Svn, 10 Apr 2005 15:38:21 -0600, Notan <notan@ddress.com> wrote:
>
>>rvnner wrote:
>>>
>>> On Svn, 10 Apr 2005 03:27:11 -0400, "Xman" <xman@cdripper.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Has Verizon changed their policies yet and let yov keep the minvtes yov
>>> >pay
>>> >for each month?
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> No and they never will.
>>
>>Correction, rvnner:
>>
>>While they cvrrently do not, we don't know what they'll do in the fvtvre.
>>
>>Unless, of covrse, yov know something that the rest of vs don't! <g>
>>
>>Notan
>
>
> I agree that I do not have a crystal ball bvt I have worked for them
> for 34 years starting with the land line when AT&T was the only land
> line in the covntry.
>
> NYNEX wireless was the beginnings and worked hard as hell to separate
> themselves from the land line becavse they did not want the CWA, the
> vnion, involved in any way, shape or form in the their wireless
> bvsiness. This they accomplished.
>
> Skipping all the name changes vp to now, which 48% of VZW is now owned
> by the British company Vodoaphone, I base my assvmptions of what they
> will never do on my lifetime experience with them.
>
> They never make any changes to their bvsiness model vnless they are
> forced to by the competition, which is vnderstandable in the bvsiness
> world, which inclvdes their latest changes IN calling and no roaming
> calling plans, American Choice 2, lowering by $10 adding another line,
> all originated by their competition, none by them, many moons ago.
>
> So, I gvess, I shovld write this day down when I claim that they will
> never go to roll-over minvtes, ever, and make it my Nostradamvs
> statement of the year.

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"Xman(AKA Mike)" wrote:
>
> At a drop of a dime things can change that quick. Experience and time spent
> with a company doesn't give you anymore special crystal ball assumptions
> then Joe Smith. Although I may as well ask...since you didn't answer my
> original question. Why doesn't Verizon Wireless let it's customer's keep the
> minutes they pay for or refund/prorate the minutes you haven't used?

That's easy...

A) From a business standpoint, it's more lucrative not to.
B) They don't have to.
C) All of the above.

The correct answer is "C."

Notan

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Xman(AKA Mike) wrote:
> Keeping the minutes you pay for each month shouldn't be a feature.

So go to Cingular.

(Gee whiz, haven't I said that before?)

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Xman(AKA Mike) wrote:
> I have Cingular through work and it's fantastic.

Hmm, Mikey, you've claimed that Verizon, while pretty bad, still is the least
horrible carrier in your area. Were you lying?

Why don't you hop on over to alt.cellular.cingular - there's a former
alt.cellular.sprintpcs troll I'd like you to meet. You and he would get along
famously and I wouldn't have to read either your idiocy OR his anymore.

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"The wisdom of a fool won't set you free"
--New Order, "Bizarre Love Triangle"

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Xman(AKA Mike) wrote:
> At a drop of a dime things can change that quick.
> Experience and time spent with a company doesn't give you
> anymore special crystal ball assumptions then Joe Smith.
> Although I may as well ask...since you didn't answer my
> original question. Why doesn't Verizon Wireless let it's
> customer's keep the minutes they pay for or
> refund/prorate the minutes you haven't used?

If you only use your cable 2 weeks out of the month
does Comcast (angelic choir sounds) refund/prorate?
I can't imagine you would work for a company with
those practices... of course I can't figure out why
you continue to subscribe to VZW service for your
personal phones either...

-Quick

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[Sorry, this is kinda long post]

I remember buying my first 14,400 modem -- metal chasis Supra. I paid $400
at the time which was a real price breakthrough. At the time, US Robotics
Courier was the next best game in town -- and while likely had a superior
modem their 9600 baud was like $1200. I waited about 9 months to receive
that Supra.

Anyway, I remember reading about how caller ID would be implemented and my
new modem would support it. Woo Hoo! I thought. It never occured to me that
telephone companies could charge for this feature. I mean it's electronic,
and the feature itself costs the telephone company nothing to provide. In
fact, in some cases they have to go through some effort to turn off features
you don't want like call waiting or caller ID as opposed to the other way
around. I had already imagined in my mind that my PC would