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On the Verizon America's Choice plan (with VX4500 phone) I
have the annoying problem of needing to dial the area code
on virtually every number, even when calling "down the
block". I've had cell phones/plans for years with different
carriers and this is definitely not normal compared to my
previous experience. Does anyone know what would cause
this? Could it have something to do with a phone setting?
I plan to talk with Verizon customer service about it, but I
thought I'd ask around a little first. TIA

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Swingman wrote:
> On the Verizon America's Choice plan (with VX4500 phone) I
> have the annoying problem of needing to dial the area code
> on virtually every number

Even on phone numbers in the same area code as the phone?

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Swingman <sbt@silcom.com> wrote:
: On the Verizon America's Choice plan (with VX4500 phone) I
: have the annoying problem of needing to dial the area code
: on virtually every number, even when calling "down the
: block". I've had cell phones/plans for years with different
: carriers and this is definitely not normal compared to my
: previous experience. Does anyone know what would cause
: this? Could it have something to do with a phone setting?
: I plan to talk with Verizon customer service about it, but I
: thought I'd ask around a little first. TIA

In most major cities in America, ten digit dialing is already the
norm. I didn't realize you could still do seven digit dialing
anywhere in the US, but I guess I was wrong. In any case, I'm not
surprised Verizon AC requires ten digit dialing given that all domestic
numbers are "free long distance" in the AC network.

I whined about ten digit dialing for a while when it was first imposed
on us here, but since I usually need to program frequently-called
numbers into my phone only once, I don't worry much about it anymore.
Anyway, because of number portability, the concept of an area code
will soon be a thing of the past.

Andrew
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Andrew wrote:

> In most major cities in America, ten digit dialing is already the
> norm. I didn't realize you could still do seven digit dialing
> anywhere in the US, but I guess I was wrong. In any case, I'm not
> surprised Verizon AC requires ten digit dialing given that all domestic
> numbers are "free long distance" in the AC network.

There are several places that still have 7-digit dialing. Annoyingly, the NPA
that includes Apple Valley, California, even allows 7-digit dialing for toll
calls. (or at least Verizon's landline switches allow it in my immediate area.)

I can dial 760-301-xxxx in Ridgecrest, an hour north of here and definitely
long distance, with seven digits. I'm also in 760. I've misdialed long distance
numbers quite a few times when I meant to call local numbers.

That having been said, I've never used a carrier (not Verizon, not Sprint, not
Alltel nor GTE nor Northcoast PCS) that *always* required ten digits to dial.
It's always been seven if you're dialing to the same area code, ten otherwise,
with the initial "1" being optional.

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Steve Sobol wrote:
> Swingman wrote:
>> On the Verizon America's Choice plan (with VX4500 phone) I
>> have the annoying problem of needing to dial the area code
>> on virtually every number
>
> Even on phone numbers in the same area code as the phone?

Depending on where you live, they have added new area codes to some areas
lately. When a local calling area goes to multiple area codes, they usually
go to 10 digit dialing when there are multiple area codes in the same local
areas, and it get really strange when a cell exchange is in a different area
code.
Where are you located at?

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Steve Sobol wrote:
> Andrew wrote:
>
>> In most major cities in America, ten digit dialing is already the
>> norm. I didn't realize you could still do seven digit dialing
>> anywhere in the US, but I guess I was wrong. In any case, I'm not
>> surprised Verizon AC requires ten digit dialing given that all
>> domestic numbers are "free long distance" in the AC network.
>
> There are several places that still have 7-digit dialing. Annoyingly,
> the NPA that includes Apple Valley, California, even allows 7-digit
> dialing for toll calls. (or at least Verizon's landline switches
> allow it in my immediate area.)
> I can dial 760-301-xxxx in Ridgecrest, an hour north of here and
> definitely long distance, with seven digits. I'm also in 760. I've
> misdialed long distance numbers quite a few times when I meant to
> call local numbers.
> That having been said, I've never used a carrier (not Verizon, not
> Sprint, not Alltel nor GTE nor Northcoast PCS) that *always* required
> ten digits to dial. It's always been seven if you're dialing to the
> same area code, ten otherwise, with the initial "1" being optional.

Must be a small city.. Heck, when I was living in LA we had at least 5 Area
codes, when I visit mom in NYC there are like 7 or 8...

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Peter Pan wrote:
> Steve Sobol wrote:
>
>>Swingman wrote:
>>
>>>On the Verizon America's Choice plan (with VX4500 phone) I
>>>have the annoying problem of needing to dial the area code
>>>on virtually every number
>>
>>Even on phone numbers in the same area code as the phone?
>
>
> Depending on where you live, they have added new area codes to some areas
> lately. When a local calling area goes to multiple area codes, they usually

SOMETIMES. For example, 909/951 here was a split, not an overlay, and 10D
dialing isn't required. 909 stayed in lower San Bernardino County, basically;
Riverside County got 951. (More or less.)

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Peter Pan wrote:

> Must be a small city..

AC 760 extends south from Ridgecrest a few hundred miles to the Mexican border.
Ridgecrest, Apple Valley/Victorville, Barstow, Palm Springs/Indio, and several
suburbs of San Diego are all in 760. San Diego's at least a three-hour drive
from my house.

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Steve Sobol wrote:
> Peter Pan wrote:
>
>> Must be a small city..
>
> AC 760 extends south from Ridgecrest a few hundred miles to the
> Mexican border. Ridgecrest, Apple Valley/Victorville, Barstow, Palm
> Springs/Indio, and several suburbs of San Diego are all in 760. San
> Diego's at least a three-hour drive from my house.

Okay.. sorry.. a bunch of small cities

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Peter Pan wrote:
> Steve Sobol wrote:
>
>>Peter Pan wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Must be a small city..
>>
>>AC 760 extends south from Ridgecrest a few hundred miles to the
>>Mexican border. Ridgecrest, Apple Valley/Victorville, Barstow, Palm
>>Springs/Indio, and several suburbs of San Diego are all in 760. San
>>Diego's at least a three-hour drive from my house.
>
>
> Okay.. sorry.. a bunch of small cities

Define small

Apple Valley: population of around 60,000
Victorville: around 80,000
Hesperia: also around 60,000




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Steve Sobol wrote:
> Peter Pan wrote:
>> Steve Sobol wrote:
>>
>>> Peter Pan wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Must be a small city..
>>>
>>> AC 760 extends south from Ridgecrest a few hundred miles to the
>>> Mexican border. Ridgecrest, Apple Valley/Victorville, Barstow, Palm
>>> Springs/Indio, and several suburbs of San Diego are all in 760. San
>>> Diego's at least a three-hour drive from my house.
>>
>>
>> Okay.. sorry.. a bunch of small cities
>
> Define small
>
> Apple Valley: population of around 60,000
> Victorville: around 80,000
> Hesperia: also around 60,000
>
>

If it's less than 1 million (funny, that's 7 digits!) it's small....... But
to answer your definition, I grew up in a town in Indiana that had a
population of about 2,500... We were big compared to some of the other
places nearby pop 100-200 <--- that's micro!

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On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 00:08:52 -0700, "Peter Pan"
<PeterPanNOSPAM@AkamailNOSPAM.com> wrote:
>Must be a small city.. Heck, when I was living in LA we had at least 5 Area
>codes, when I visit mom in NYC there are like 7 or 8...

We have 7-digit dialing, even for toll calls, here in New Jersey, the
most densely-populated state in the country.

What's really annoying is that at least one wireless company in Canada
(Telus?) requires a '1' to be dialed before the 10 digits. This is a
major pain when roaming and you only have the 10-digit numbers in the
phone's address book.

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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:25:19 GMT, Bob Scheurle
<njtbob@X-verizon-X.net> wrote:

>We have 7-digit dialing, even for toll calls, here in New Jersey, the
>most densely-populated state in the country.
>
>What's really annoying is that at least one wireless company in Canada
>(Telus?) requires a '1' to be dialed before the 10 digits. This is a
>major pain when roaming and you only have the 10-digit numbers in the
>phone's address book.

I can dial a local number any of four ways. 7D (NXX-XXXX), 10D
(NXX-NXX-XXXX), 1+10D (1-NXX-NXX-XXXX) or +1 NXX NXX XXXX and it all
gets billed as a local call. (T-Mobile)

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Steve Sobol wrote:
> Peter Pan wrote:
>> Steve Sobol wrote:
>>
>>> Peter Pan wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Must be a small city..
>>>
>>> AC 760 extends south from Ridgecrest a few hundred
>>> miles to the Mexican border. Ridgecrest, Apple
>>> Valley/Victorville, Barstow, Palm Springs/Indio, and
>>> several suburbs of San Diego are all in 760. San
>>> Diego's at least a three-hour drive from my house.
>>
>>
>> Okay.. sorry.. a bunch of small cities
>
> Define small
>
> Apple Valley: population of around 60,000
> Victorville: around 80,000
> Hesperia: also around 60,000

Ummm, I live in San Jose, CA. Not so small.
Area code: 408
Land Line: SBC (Pac*bell), 7 digit dialing
Cellular: VZW, 7 digit dialing

-Quick

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"Peter Pan" <PeterPanNOSPAM@AkamailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
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> Steve Sobol wrote:
>> Swingman wrote:
>>> On the Verizon America's Choice plan (with VX4500 phone) I
>>> have the annoying problem of needing to dial the area code
>>> on virtually every number
>>
>> Even on phone numbers in the same area code as the phone?
>
> Depending on where you live, they have added new area codes to some areas
> lately. When a local calling area goes to multiple area codes, they
> usually go to 10 digit dialing when there are multiple area codes in the
> same local areas, and it get really strange when a cell exchange is in a
> different area code.
> Where are you located at?

Well, this has become a lively discussion <g>. I'm located in Ventura,
California - area code 805.

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swingman wrote:
> "Peter Pan" <PeterPanNOSPAM@AkamailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:3beo0nF6h02ngU1@individual.net...
>> Steve Sobol wrote:
>>> Swingman wrote:
>>>> On the Verizon America's Choice plan (with VX4500 phone) I
>>>> have the annoying problem of needing to dial the area code
>>>> on virtually every number
>>>
>>> Even on phone numbers in the same area code as the phone?
>>
>> Depending on where you live, they have added new area codes to some
>> areas lately. When a local calling area goes to multiple area codes,
>> they usually go to 10 digit dialing when there are multiple area
>> codes in the same local areas, and it get really strange when a cell
>> exchange is in a different area code.
>> Where are you located at?
>
> Well, this has become a lively discussion <g>. I'm located in
> Ventura, California - area code 805.

Not sure on that one. I live in Baltimore, and when they split area codes
they went to 10 digit dialing, even in my house (have to dial 10 digits even
to call my sister downstairs in the laundry room). Did have to use 10 digit
in ventura hills, and when I was in Tampa, but that may have been cuz I was
from out of state.

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swingman wrote:

> Well, this has become a lively discussion <g>. I'm located in Ventura,
> California - area code 805.

alt.cellular.verizon.california, anyone? ;p


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Actually north up to Lone Pine, Bishop, Mammoth Lakes, to Topaz Lake, and
east to Death Valley too. The 760 is the largest area code in California.
We old timers can remember when it was part of the 619 (now San Diego) and
714 (now south Orange County) area codes.


"Steve Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
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> Peter Pan wrote:
>
>> Must be a small city..
>
> AC 760 extends south from Ridgecrest a few hundred miles to the Mexican
> border. Ridgecrest, Apple Valley/Victorville, Barstow, Palm Springs/Indio,
> and several suburbs of San Diego are all in 760. San Diego's at least a
> three-hour drive from my house.
>
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>
> "The wisdom of a fool won't set you free"
> --New Order, "Bizarre Love Triangle"