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....who would you choose for cell service? I'm thinking of switching.
I'm not unhappy with Verizon service, but they're behaving rather
scummishly by telemarketing to my home phone number, ignoring the fact
that I'm on the do-not-call list and using the "business relationship"
loophole to squeak past the legal barriers.

Don't need fancy phones, like America's Choice-type plans, need good
phone accessories (headsets, car kits, etc.). Currently buying 800 min
per month, don't use it all. Want some data capability without jumping
through hoops, don't need superfast yet.

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clifto wrote:
> ...who would you choose for cell service?

Really depends on the area. In Chicago, I've heard good things about US
Cellular. Here in Apple Valley, I use Sprint.

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clifto wrote:
>
> ...who would you choose for cell service? I'm thinking of switching.
> I'm not unhappy with Verizon service, but they're behaving rather
> scummishly by telemarketing to my home phone number, ignoring the fact
> that I'm on the do-not-call list and using the "business relationship"
> loophole to squeak past the legal barriers.
>
> Don't need fancy phones, like America's Choice-type plans, need good
> phone accessories (headsets, car kits, etc.). Currently buying 800 min
> per month, don't use it all. Want some data capability without jumping
> through hoops, don't need superfast yet.

Your decision on which carrier to use should be primarily based
on coverage, not "minutes," phones, accessories, etc.

Notan

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On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 16:10:07 -0600, clifto <clifto@clifto.com> wrote:

>...who would you choose for cell service? I'm thinking of switching.
>I'm not unhappy with Verizon service, but they're behaving rather
>scummishly by telemarketing to my home phone number, ignoring the fact
>that I'm on the do-not-call list and using the "business relationship"
>loophole to squeak past the legal barriers.
>
>Don't need fancy phones, like America's Choice-type plans, need good
>phone accessories (headsets, car kits, etc.). Currently buying 800 min
>per month, don't use it all. Want some data capability without jumping
>through hoops, don't need superfast yet.

It all depends.

The things I look for in a carrier are:

1) Coverage where I need it
2) Best rates for the services offered

I'm not into the phones and stuff myself. I have a middle of the road
voice only phone (well, it can do data but I don't use it for that
purpose). No camera phone, no wireless web. Just bare bones.

If Verizon was a PCS carrier (1900 MHz) band, I would probably not
choose them. That's one of the reasons I personally don't use Sprint.
Cingular is about the only other carrier that's half decent where I
live (they're the 800 MHz "A" carrier, Verizon is the 800 MHz "B"
carrier). In rural areas, they just don't have the coverage. They need
more towers to counteract the higher frequency (the higher the
frequency, the smaller the coverage for the same power). Nothing
against GSM or TDMA, its just that if I can't use the phone, why
bother having it?

I'd stay away from national carriers T-Mobile, Nextel and regional
carriers Suncom and nTelos because their coverage areas are small and
they're PCS 1900 MHz carriers.

If Alltel were offered, I would choose them. They have most of the
same roaming agreements as Verizon (National Freedom vs. America's
Choice). Overall a pretty darn good system.

US Cellular is OK, but only as a 800 MHz carrier. Not as good as
Verizon or Alltel on coverage though.

But as always, make sure the carrier does what you want them to do,
for the features you want, for the price you're willing to pay.

Dave

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I was very happy with Verizon but switched to Cingular last month. The
reason was that I wanted a Treo 600 (PDA-cell phone combo) without
paying for a data plan. I didn't want to e-mail and surf the web, I was
just tied of carrying a cell phone AND a PDA. Verizon would not
accomodate me, Cingular did. The other advantage for me is that Verizon
didn't work for me in my new office but Cingular does. Add rollover
minutes and I am very happy. Since you don't use all your minutes, you
lose them on Verizon, not on Cingular. Check their website for rate plans.

I you are otherwise happy with Verizon do want I did. Tell them that the
only marketing to you is by snail mail. No phone calls unless there is a
problem with the account. I did that with both Verizon and Verizon
Wireless and I don't get calls.

clifto wrote:

> ...who would you choose for cell service? I'm thinking of switching.
> I'm not unhappy with Verizon service, but they're behaving rather
> scummishly by telemarketing to my home phone number, ignoring the fact
> that I'm on the do-not-call list and using the "business relationship"
> loophole to squeak past the legal barriers.
>
> Don't need fancy phones, like America's Choice-type plans, need good
> phone accessories (headsets, car kits, etc.). Currently buying 800 min
> per month, don't use it all. Want some data capability without jumping
> through hoops, don't need superfast yet.
>

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It should be based on coverage in your area. For me, the phone must work
well at my home, office ,and all other locations that I regularly travel to.

-mij


"Notan" <notan@ddress.com> wrote in message
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> clifto wrote:
>>
>> ...who would you choose for cell service? I'm thinking of switching.
>> I'm not unhappy with Verizon service, but they're behaving rather
>> scummishly by telemarketing to my home phone number, ignoring the fact
>> that I'm on the do-not-call list and using the "business relationship"
>> loophole to squeak past the legal barriers.
>>
>> Don't need fancy phones, like America's Choice-type plans, need good
>> phone accessories (headsets, car kits, etc.). Currently buying 800 min
>> per month, don't use it all. Want some data capability without jumping
>> through hoops, don't need superfast yet.
>
> Your decision on which carrier to use should be primarily based
> on coverage, not "minutes," phones, accessories, etc.
>
> Notan

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1900 MHz is not a problem if it is well deployed. I understand that more
cell sites at 1900 MHz are needed than at 800 MHZ to provide the same level
of coverage since 1900 MHz does not penetrate building as well. Sprint seems
to work very well in SoCal. I recently ditched Verizon and switched to
Sprint because the Verizon coverage at my home was very poor and since I
have a home office, I require my phone to work well when I am at home.
-mij


"Diamond Dave" <dmine45.NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 16:10:07 -0600, clifto <clifto@clifto.com> wrote:
>
>>...who would you choose for cell service? I'm thinking of switching.
>>I'm not unhappy with Verizon service, but they're behaving rather
>>scummishly by telemarketing to my home phone number, ignoring the fact
>>that I'm on the do-not-call list and using the "business relationship"
>>loophole to squeak past the legal barriers.
>>
>>Don't need fancy phones, like America's Choice-type plans, need good
>>phone accessories (headsets, car kits, etc.). Currently buying 800 min
>>per month, don't use it all. Want some data capability without jumping
>>through hoops, don't need superfast yet.
>
> It all depends.
>
> The things I look for in a carrier are:
>
> 1) Coverage where I need it
> 2) Best rates for the services offered
>
> I'm not into the phones and stuff myself. I have a middle of the road
> voice only phone (well, it can do data but I don't use it for that
> purpose). No camera phone, no wireless web. Just bare bones.
>
> If Verizon was a PCS carrier (1900 MHz) band, I would probably not
> choose them. That's one of the reasons I personally don't use Sprint.
> Cingular is about the only other carrier that's half decent where I
> live (they're the 800 MHz "A" carrier, Verizon is the 800 MHz "B"
> carrier). In rural areas, they just don't have the coverage. They need
> more towers to counteract the higher frequency (the higher the
> frequency, the smaller the coverage for the same power). Nothing
> against GSM or TDMA, its just that if I can't use the phone, why
> bother having it?
>
> I'd stay away from national carriers T-Mobile, Nextel and regional
> carriers Suncom and nTelos because their coverage areas are small and
> they're PCS 1900 MHz carriers.
>
> If Alltel were offered, I would choose them. They have most of the
> same roaming agreements as Verizon (National Freedom vs. America's
> Choice). Overall a pretty darn good system.
>
> US Cellular is OK, but only as a 800 MHz carrier. Not as good as
> Verizon or Alltel on coverage though.
>
> But as always, make sure the carrier does what you want them to do,
> for the features you want, for the price you're willing to pay.
>
> Dave
>

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If I could change anything about my Verizon contact it would be the
unlimited minutes starting at 9:01 PM.

I wish it was earlier, say... 7:01pm, even 8:01.

Other than that I'd stay with them.

Hunter

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I believe you can tell them when they call next time to "please remove me
from your calling list". If they do not, then they are in trouble with the
FCC.
Tim
"clifto" <clifto@clifto.com> wrote in message
news:vaeqd2-trf.ln1@remote.clifto.com...
> ...who would you choose for cell service? I'm thinking of switching.
> I'm not unhappy with Verizon service, but they're behaving rather
> scummishly by telemarketing to my home phone number, ignoring the fact
> that I'm on the do-not-call list and using the "business relationship"
> loophole to squeak past the legal barriers.
>
> Don't need fancy phones, like America's Choice-type plans, need good
> phone accessories (headsets, car kits, etc.). Currently buying 800 min
> per month, don't use it all. Want some data capability without jumping
> through hoops, don't need superfast yet.
>
> --
>
> In Memoriam: Julius the cat April 1, 1993 - February 3, 2005

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"Mij Adyaw" <mijadyaw@nospamforme.com> wrote in message
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> It should be based on coverage in your area. For me, the phone must work
> well at my home, office ,and all other locations that I regularly travel
> to.
>
> -mij

I completely agree. If Cingular has coverage wherever you go then more
power to you. I just left Cingular because they have very poor coverage
from middle to East Tennessee. If they didn't roam along the interstate off
of T-Mobile towers they wouldn't have coverage a lot of the way between
Nashville to Knoxville. This is completely ridiculous IMO. Cingular used
to be Bellsouth Mobility and you would think that coverage here in the South
East would have been very good. It isn't and that's exactly why I left
Cingular. I actually was on a special plan "GAIT" that Cingular offers that
required you to use 1 of 2 older model phones that had non-color displays.
Those phones would let you use GSM, TDMA, or Analog and did have pretty good
coverage but, you are forced to use an antiquated phone and pay more than it
costs with my new Verizon plans with almost identical coverage. Cingular in
no way offered to reduce their price of that GAIT plan and thus lost my $80
a month. If they had more modern phones to use with their GAIT plan or
offered those plans for less money then I would have stayed with Cingular.
I used to have ADSL through Bellsouth and could have had my cell phone, home
phone, and ADSL bills all combined but, they screwed up their internet
routing me through New Orleans instead of Atlanta like it used to be so my
ping was more than doubled overnight and I went to better ADSL with another
ISP through Bellsouth's own copper lines. So all I have left is my home
phone through Bellsouth and I may drop that next. I don't know why Cingular
bought AT&T since they both have almost the identical coverage areas. They
may have more customers now but, still the same coverage in my area at
least. They need to offer better coverage period. I had over 3,000
rollover minutes on Cingular plan when I left and don't care since I
couldn't use Cingular in most of the places I wanted to go around my area.
If Cingular did have coverage it was often Analog while my friend who had
Verizon was all digital and high signal and I had scratchy Analog with
Cingular on the high priced GAIT plan. I like the spiffy GSM phones that
can be used with Cingular but, I'd rather be able to use my phone where I
want to instead of looking at a spiffy phone with no signal. My new
VX6100's are feature packed and the only thing I miss with my old GSM phones
was blue tooth. No biggie since I just bought a USB data cable for my
Verizon phones off Ebay for under $20.

Ben

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In another couple of years it's going to be two companies competing
for your business. Viva la monopoly.

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The FCC calling list removal doesn't apply if you have an existing
relationship with a company. What does apply is "If you call me again I am
switching companies and will no longer do business with you." Works every
time.

"slim stick" <tim.2.pender.xspamz@verizon.net.not> wrote in message
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>I believe you can tell them when they call next time to "please remove me
> from your calling list". If they do not, then they are in trouble with the
> FCC.
> Tim

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Notan wrote:
> clifto wrote:
>> Don't need fancy phones, like America's Choice-type plans,
>
> Your decision on which carrier to use should be primarily based
> on coverage, not "minutes," phones, accessories, etc.

Sorry, wasn't clear. When I mentioned liking AC-type plans, I was implying
that I have (occasional) need for widespread coverage. I get the impression
that T-Mobile is mainly for people who are always in large cities.

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Hunter wrote:
> If I could change anything about my Verizon contact it would be the
> unlimited minutes starting at 9:01 PM.
>
> I wish it was earlier, say... 7:01pm, even 8:01.

This is another reason I'm tempted to look elsewhere. US Cellular starts
nights at 7 PM.

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clifto wrote:
> ...who would you choose for cell service? I'm thinking of switching.
> I'm not unhappy with Verizon service, but they're behaving rather
> scummishly by telemarketing to my home phone number, ignoring the fact
> that I'm on the do-not-call list and using the "business relationship"
> loophole to squeak past the legal barriers.
>
> Don't need fancy phones, like America's Choice-type plans, need good
> phone accessories (headsets, car kits, etc.). Currently buying 800 min
> per month, don't use it all. Want some data capability without jumping
> through hoops, don't need superfast yet.
>
If you're peeved about the abuse of the relationship, let them know. Me
personally, I have caller ID on my lines, and when it shows unknown, as
most slimy sellusomething folks do, I just dont pick up.

Brian