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I bought a USB data cable from Eforcity and it works fine using Bitpim
to download phonebook, wallpaper etc. and even claims to be a wireless
modem. I tried to use it with my laptop to dial a dialup ISP, but of
cource there is no dialtone and the Windows XP gives a "no dialtone"
message. Other than buying Verizon's Mobile Office Kit, what can I do?

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jimh said the following on 2/7/2005 7:59 AM:
> I bought a USB data cable from Eforcity and it works fine using Bitpim
> to download phonebook, wallpaper etc. and even claims to be a wireless
> modem. I tried to use it with my laptop to dial a dialup ISP, but of
> cource there is no dialtone and the Windows XP gives a "no dialtone"
> message. Other than buying Verizon's Mobile Office Kit, what can I do?
>

You need to have the drivers for your phone installed to use it as a
modem. If you go to the Yahoo group InternetByCellPhone they will have
the software needed in the files section. I believe it is the QuickLink
software. Install that and it should get you up and running. There is
also a LGVX6100 group at Yahoo. Both very helpful.

--

Kirk

"Screw the planes, take a train", Me

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jimh wrote:
> I bought a USB data cable from Eforcity and it works fine using Bitpim
> to download phonebook, wallpaper etc. and even claims to be a wireless
> modem. I tried to use it with my laptop to dial a dialup ISP, but of
> cource there is no dialtone and the Windows XP gives a "no dialtone"
> message. Other than buying Verizon's Mobile Office Kit, what can I do?

Create a new entry in dialup, use a standard modem, and make sure you
UNCHECK the box that says "check for dial tone before dialing". You can't
change it in properties for an existing entry, you have to add a new one and
make sure to uncheck the box.

You already have XP, and the Standard modem should work with low speed, as
long as you uncheck the box..

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Does it work if you connect to VZW network using #777 for the number?
Google for the details.

Connecting to modems is iffy anyway and often slower than using the VZW
network, even if you are stuck on Q2N @ 14,400.

"jimh" <jdh449@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1107791950.611647.290940@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>I bought a USB data cable from Eforcity and it works fine using Bitpim
> to download phonebook, wallpaper etc. and even claims to be a wireless
> modem. I tried to use it with my laptop to dial a dialup ISP, but of
> cource there is no dialtone and the Windows XP gives a "no dialtone"
> message. Other than buying Verizon's Mobile Office Kit, what can I do?
>

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I haven't found a cable or driver that *WON'T* work with #777 yet, (as long
as you are in a verizon native area and some extended's).. Even when using
QWK2NET you can use #777.
If you use the standard driver in XP you can only use Q2N though (max baud
rate of the standard driver is usually 19,200.

(as per the previous post, also have always used the standard driver to
directly dial my ISP.. hey free Long Distance, so what if I call a direct
number thousands of miles away)


cricket wrote:
> Does it work if you connect to VZW network using #777 for the number?
> Google for the details.
>
> Connecting to modems is iffy anyway and often slower than using the
> VZW network, even if you are stuck on Q2N @ 14,400.
>
> "jimh" <jdh449@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1107791950.611647.290940@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>> I bought a USB data cable from Eforcity and it works fine using
>> Bitpim to download phonebook, wallpaper etc. and even claims to be a
>> wireless modem. I tried to use it with my laptop to dial a dialup
>> ISP, but of cource there is no dialtone and the Windows XP gives a
>> "no dialtone" message. Other than buying Verizon's Mobile Office
>> Kit, what can I do?

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Thanks... I tried Quicklink and had the VX6100/laptop working in 5
minutes.
jimh

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"Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in
news:36qaehF56oflaU1@individual.net:
> (as per the previous post, also have always used the standard
> driver to directly dial my ISP.. hey free Long Distance, so what
> if I call a direct number thousands of miles away)

Hey thanks for that tip, I didn't think about instead of using the #777
connection, to just dial my ISP's modem pool. It sure solves that
email sending and newsgroup server problem.

I was just wondering, about those #777 connections. They have 2
different AT commands that you enter at the modem's properties, not the
dialer properties. Can the dialer specify the AT commands instead of
needing to go to the modem Advance tab in Control Panel?

Luckily, the modem AT commands don't interfere with my ability to
dialup my ISP, but it does affect the ability to change connections
between Q2N and NationalAccess.

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Sharon Westfall wrote:
> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in
> news:36qaehF56oflaU1@individual.net:
>> (as per the previous post, also have always used the standard
>> driver to directly dial my ISP.. hey free Long Distance, so what
>> if I call a direct number thousands of miles away)
>
> Hey thanks for that tip, I didn't think about instead of using the
> #777 connection, to just dial my ISP's modem pool. It sure solves
> that email sending and newsgroup server problem.
>
> I was just wondering, about those #777 connections. They have 2
> different AT commands that you enter at the modem's properties, not
> the dialer properties. Can the dialer specify the AT commands
> instead of needing to go to the modem Advance tab in Control Panel?
>
> Luckily, the modem AT commands don't interfere with my ability to
> dialup my ISP, but it does affect the ability to change connections
> between Q2N and NationalAccess.

Not sure what you mean /have.. On my XP, I just create a Dial-up networking
entry with the standard modem and the number to call as #777.

if you are in a verizon area (and many extended areas) it actually connects
to the local server rather than call a LD number (usually takes a second or
less), so it is also much faster and doesn't take long for redial if the
connection drops (no modem negoting speeds etc).

Just out of the blue, a neuron fired in my brain and I remembered some AT
commands for setting the connection speed. If you only use the slower
Quick2Net, you don't need them, if however you actually want to create two
entries (one for Q2N and one for 1X/NA/Express) you can do that, but you not
only have to add the setup strings, but have to change the connect speed
(faster than dialup) and the server login.

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Peter Pan wrote:
> Sharon Westfall wrote:
>> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in
>> news:36qaehF56oflaU1@individual.net:
>>> (as per the previous post, also have always used the standard
>>> driver to directly dial my ISP.. hey free Long Distance, so what
>>> if I call a direct number thousands of miles away)
>>
>> Hey thanks for that tip, I didn't think about instead of using the
>> #777 connection, to just dial my ISP's modem pool. It sure solves
>> that email sending and newsgroup server problem.
>>
>> I was just wondering, about those #777 connections. They have 2
>> different AT commands that you enter at the modem's properties, not
>> the dialer properties. Can the dialer specify the AT commands
>> instead of needing to go to the modem Advance tab in Control Panel?
>>
>> Luckily, the modem AT commands don't interfere with my ability to
>> dialup my ISP, but it does affect the ability to change connections
>> between Q2N and NationalAccess.
>
> Not sure what you mean /have.. On my XP, I just create a Dial-up
> networking entry with the standard modem and the number to call as
> #777.
> if you are in a verizon area (and many extended areas) it actually
> connects to the local server rather than call a LD number (usually
> takes a second or less), so it is also much faster and doesn't take
> long for redial if the connection drops (no modem negoting speeds
> etc).
> Just out of the blue, a neuron fired in my brain and I remembered
> some AT commands for setting the connection speed. If you only use
> the slower Quick2Net, you don't need them, if however you actually
> want to create two entries (one for Q2N and one for 1X/NA/Express)
> you can do that, but you not only have to add the setup strings, but
> have to change the connect speed (faster than dialup) and the server
> login.

PS Sorry, forgot to paste the strings...
>>
>>> try putting this in as your init string: AT$QCMDR=2
>>
>>> change it to AT$QCMDR=3 for the express/1X/NA network
>>

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"Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in
news:36thmsF57nc59U1@individual.net:

>> Just out of the blue, a neuron fired in my brain and I remembered
>> some AT commands for setting the connection speed. If you only use
>> the slower Quick2Net, you don't need them, if however you actually
>> want to create two entries (one for Q2N and one for 1X/NA/Express)
>> you can do that, but you not only have to add the setup strings, but
>> have to change the connect speed (faster than dialup) and the server
>> login.
>
> PS Sorry, forgot to paste the strings...
>>>> try putting this in as your init string: AT$QCMDR=2
>>>> change it to AT$QCMDR=3 for the express/1X/NA network

Yes, that's the AT commands I'm talking about. I have to enter it in
Control Panel under the "Phone and Modem Options" icon. If I wanted to
switch between Q2N & NA, I have to go back to Control Panel to change
that string. Or is there a way to save it in the Network Connections
dialers?

Regardless, the above 2 options don't work when I'm trying to send
email using Eudora, or accessing the Usenet, using Xnews. I like your
idea of going back to my ISP's dialup, it's like being home, except
much much slower.... but still better than nothing, and after 9pm, it
doesn't even cost minutes.

I feel so high tech with my cell phone modem! My daughter's phone
would be even more amazing... she's got the V710 and she won't even
have to physically attach the phone to the computer. Now if we could
just get free broadband.... :-)

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Sharon Westfall wrote:
> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in
> news:36thmsF57nc59U1@individual.net:
>
>>> Just out of the blue, a neuron fired in my brain and I remembered
>>> some AT commands for setting the connection speed. If you only use
>>> the slower Quick2Net, you don't need them, if however you actually
>>> want to create two entries (one for Q2N and one for 1X/NA/Express)
>>> you can do that, but you not only have to add the setup strings, but
>>> have to change the connect speed (faster than dialup) and the server
>>> login.
>>
>> PS Sorry, forgot to paste the strings...
>>>>> try putting this in as your init string: AT$QCMDR=2
>>>>> change it to AT$QCMDR=3 for the express/1X/NA network
>
> Yes, that's the AT commands I'm talking about. I have to enter it in
> Control Panel under the "Phone and Modem Options" icon. If I wanted
> to switch between Q2N & NA, I have to go back to Control Panel to
> change that string. Or is there a way to save it in the Network
> Connections dialers?
>
Depends on what version of windows you are using (forgot or never knew what
you had). In XP at least, you can put them in as extra info for each dial up
entry, so the proper string is sent automatically as part of each Dial up
entry.


> Regardless, the above 2 options don't work when I'm trying to send
> email using Eudora, or accessing the Usenet, using Xnews. I like your
> idea of going back to my ISP's dialup, it's like being home, except
> much much slower.... but still better than nothing, and after 9pm, it
> doesn't even cost minutes.
>

(again depends on which version of windows you have.) Most people use the
default connections in each program. I set them up so they never dial a
connection, which forces them to use the internal lan buffers (ie you can
connect via dial-up/WiFi/cellphone/network/etc) and the programs always work
the same no matter how you connect. I'm using the internal card right now).
In your programs, check the options/connections tab

As for the dial to the ISP idea, maybe I didn't explain that real well. I
travel a lot for work, and While the QNC and higher speed always works in
Verizon areas, and sometimes in extended areas, they are both packet
switched and require a network at the provider. For the times I am stuck
somewhere in a digital extended area but the local provider has no network
(for the #777 to connect to) I keep a backup DUN entry for Quick2Net direct
to my ISP (I have 3 entries, one High speed to #777, one low speed to #777,
and the third to my isp's long distance number). Luckily I have only had to
use it a few times.... It is way way slow compared to my NationalAccess and
BroadbandAccess connects, but even if you can use #777 locally, it is a
whole lot faster than dialing, and since I travel a lot, saves me from
changing to local phone numbers everytime I travel (which is about 99.427%
of the time, I don't travel on holidays)


> I feel so high tech with my cell phone modem! My daughter's phone
> would be even more amazing... she's got the V710 and she won't even
> have to physically attach the phone to the computer. Now if we could
> just get free broadband.... :-)

Just to annoy you, I'm on vacation in Las Vegas in motel, with my wireless
network, and have a card in one of my laptops that is always on, with EVDO
connections (broadband and cell combo, about 500 kb... they call it
BroadbandAccess, and since it's a card in the computer, I don't have my
phone near the computer either (in case you or anyone lurking is curious,
I decided that besides xmas, new years, and turkey day, the Superbowl rated
a vacation this year too)

While there are a few new phones out now that do Broadband (came out feb
1st), it's not the VX6100

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"Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in
news:36ucmbF56foucU1@individual.net:

> Sharon Westfall wrote:
>> Yes, that's the AT commands I'm talking about. I have to enter
>> it in Control Panel under the "Phone and Modem Options" icon. If
>> I wanted to switch between Q2N & NA, I have to go back to Control
>> Panel to change that string. Or is there a way to save it in the
>> Network Connections dialers?
>>
> Depends on what version of windows you are using (forgot or never
> knew what you had). In XP at least, you can put them in as extra
> info for each dial up entry, so the proper string is sent
> automatically as part of each Dial up entry.

I use XP; where do you enter the xtra info in the dialup entry?

>> Regardless, the above 2 options don't work when I'm trying to
>> send email using Eudora, or accessing the Usenet, using Xnews.
>
> (again depends on which version of windows you have.) Most people
> use the default connections in each program. I set them up so they
> never dial a connection, which forces them to use the internal lan
> buffers (ie you can connect via
> dial-up/WiFi/cellphone/network/etc) and the programs always work
> the same no matter how you connect. I'm using the internal card
> right now). In your programs, check the options/connections tab

It's not Windows or my software program, it's the server
(vzw3g.com?). My ISP won't allow me to send mail through them,
through verizon. But there's no smtp.vzw3g.com to send mail through.
And there's no news.vzw3g.com either.

> (I have 3 entries, one High speed to #777, one low speed to
> #777, and the third to my isp's long distance number).

I don't travel alot, but I do want to get this thing down for when I
do travel. I want to have 4 entries actually the Q2N, NA, LavaNet
and Roadrunner.

> Just to annoy you, I'm on vacation in Las Vegas in motel, with my
> wireless network, and have a card in one of my laptops that is
> always on, with EVDO connections (broadband and cell combo, about
> 500 kb... they call it BroadbandAccess, and since it's a card in
> the computer, I don't have my phone near the computer either
> (in case you or anyone lurking is curious, I decided that besides
> xmas, new years, and turkey day, the Superbowl rated a vacation
> this year too)

Hey-hey-hey.. I said free broadband! And you can't use your EVDO
card as a phone, so it's not as cool as a phone that can be used as a
modem.

First time I hooked up my phone to my computer in the car, my
daughter commented, "Wow, the router works this far from home?"
When I told her it wasn't the router connection, she was floored!
"You gotta get me that too, mom!" Heh, high tech mom strikes again!

> While there are a few new phones out now that do Broadband (came
> out feb 1st), it's not the VX6100

Yeah, well, they won't work in Paia Maui... ^_^

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In article <36ucmbF56foucU1@individual.net>, Peter Pan wrote:
> While there are a few new phones out now that do Broadband (came out feb
> 1st), it's not the VX6100

Oh and I forgot to mention, I know I'm on a VX6100 thread, but I'm using a
Samsung SCH-A650.

And another thing that you mentioned about setting up your dialer to
connect much faster with NA, where is that setting? I thought the only
difference was the login name and password. BTW I'm on XP Home Edition,
not Pro, so maybe there's a difference in dialer setup?

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Sharon T G Westfall wrote:
> In article <36ucmbF56foucU1@individual.net>, Peter Pan wrote:
>> While there are a few new phones out now that do Broadband (came out
>> feb 1st), it's not the VX6100
>
> Oh and I forgot to mention, I know I'm on a VX6100 thread, but I'm
> using a Samsung SCH-A650.
>
> And another thing that you mentioned about setting up your dialer to
> connect much faster with NA, where is that setting? I thought the
> only difference was the login name and password. BTW I'm on XP Home
> Edition, not Pro, so maybe there's a difference in dialer setup?

Samsung SCH-A650 doesn't do BroadBandAccess either, but then again, as far
as I can tell, they don't have active EVDO service in Hawaii yet anyway....

Haven't forgotten about the dialer setup q... I use Mobile Office (does it
automatically) so I'll have to do it in native mode so I can tell you the
steps.