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When I run the Event Viewer (eventvwr.msc) and go to Event Viewer (Local) >
System I noticed I have a long list of errors with a Source of Service
Control Manager, Event 7001, and Property > Description of: The Remote
Access Connection Manager service depends on the Telephony service which
failed to start because of the following error: The service cannot be
started, either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled devices
associated with it.

As I have no telephone modem installed (I use cable) how do I stop this
error from appearing in Event Viewer - to me it makes no since to have time
wasted checking on this service/event.

In Services (services.msc) I do have Telephony disabled.

Jerry

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With cable you do not need Remote Access Connection Manager service, unless
you are using Internet Connection Sharing or Windows Firewall. Disable it.
However, see the Note: below.

Remote Access Connection Manager
[[Creates a network connection. This service is required if you use Windows
Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing *. If things cease to function after
disabling this service, put it to automatic. Note: you may require this
service for some direct cable or DSL providers and connections, depending on
how they implement their logon process. If your dial-up, cable or DSL
internet access no longer functions properly with this service disabled,
place this service into automatic. If you use a hardware gateway or router,
this service is not required.]]
http://web.archive.org/web/2004112 [...] ice411.htm

Windows Firewall (ICF) and Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) *
[[This service was named Internet Connection Firewall/Internet Connection
Sharing * with Service Pack 1a. Used to allow multiple computers on your
network to access the internet via only one account. This service installs
on the "modem" computer. It also provides a software firewall for the
system. If you are using a third party firewall, hardware gateway/router or
Internet Connection Sharing software package, this service is not
required.]]
http://web.archive.org/web/2004112 [...] on_Sharing

I have cable, Comcast, and I do not use Windows firewall. I have these two
plus telephony disabled.


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:uCg$oXhlFHA.3568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
Jerry <NoSpamChiefZeke@MSN.com> hunted and pecked:
> When I run the Event Viewer (eventvwr.msc) and go to Event Viewer (Local)
> > System I noticed I have a long list of errors with a Source of Service
> Control Manager, Event 7001, and Property > Description of: The Remote
> Access Connection Manager service depends on the Telephony service which
> failed to start because of the following error: The service cannot be
> started, either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled
> devices associated with it.
>
> As I have no telephone modem installed (I use cable) how do I stop this
> error from appearing in Event Viewer - to me it makes no since to have
> time wasted checking on this service/event.
>
> In Services (services.msc) I do have Telephony disabled.
>
> Jerry

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain (More info?)

Wes, please don't depend on BlackViper!! Various Services have to be set
back to their defaults, otherwise other Services depending those will not
work.

--

Will Denny
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
Please reply to the News Groups


"Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
newsFJ0F4hlFHA.708@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> With cable you do not need Remote Access Connection Manager service,
> unless
> you are using Internet Connection Sharing or Windows Firewall. Disable
> it.
> However, see the Note: below.
>
> Remote Access Connection Manager
> [[Creates a network connection. This service is required if you use
> Windows
> Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing *. If things cease to function after
> disabling this service, put it to automatic. Note: you may require this
> service for some direct cable or DSL providers and connections, depending
> on
> how they implement their logon process. If your dial-up, cable or DSL
> internet access no longer functions properly with this service disabled,
> place this service into automatic. If you use a hardware gateway or
> router,
> this service is not required.]]
> http://web.archive.org/web/2004112 [...] ice411.htm
>
> Windows Firewall (ICF) and Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) *
> [[This service was named Internet Connection Firewall/Internet Connection
> Sharing * with Service Pack 1a. Used to allow multiple computers on your
> network to access the internet via only one account. This service installs
> on the "modem" computer. It also provides a software firewall for the
> system. If you are using a third party firewall, hardware gateway/router
> or
> Internet Connection Sharing software package, this service is not
> required.]]
> http://web.archive.org/web/2004112 [...] on_Sharing
>
> I have cable, Comcast, and I do not use Windows firewall. I have these
> two
> plus telephony disabled.
>
>
> --
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>
> Wes
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> In news:uCg$oXhlFHA.3568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
> Jerry <NoSpamChiefZeke@MSN.com> hunted and pecked:
>> When I run the Event Viewer (eventvwr.msc) and go to Event Viewer (Local)
>> > System I noticed I have a long list of errors with a Source of Service
>> Control Manager, Event 7001, and Property > Description of: The Remote
>> Access Connection Manager service depends on the Telephony service which
>> failed to start because of the following error: The service cannot be
>> started, either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled
>> devices associated with it.
>>
>> As I have no telephone modem installed (I use cable) how do I stop this
>> error from appearing in Event Viewer - to me it makes no since to have
>> time wasted checking on this service/event.
>>
>> In Services (services.msc) I do have Telephony disabled.
>>
>> Jerry
>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain (More info?)

Will,

I understand service dependencies.

The OP has no dial-up modem. Apparently his cable connection is fine
without the Remote Access Connection Manager service running. He has the
Telphony service disabled. He wants to get rid of the Remote Access
Connection Manager service error in the Event Viewer. He made no mention of
needing Internet Connection Sharing.

He's getting the error because he has Remote Access Connection Manager
service set to Automatic or Manual and the Telephony service is disabled.

Why does he need the Remote Access Connection Manager service running???

Remote Access Connection Manager
[[Definitely required if you are using Internet Connection Sharing.]]
http://www.theeldergeek.com/remote [...] anager.htm

Remote Access Connection Manager
[[Disabled, if not using Modem, Virtual Private Networking(VPN) or Internet
Connection Sharing. Manual, if wanting the ability to create such
connections when required.]]
http://snakefoot.fateback.com/twea [...] tml#RASMAN

Remote Access Connection Manager
[[Creates a network connection.
*Internet Connection Sharing requires this service and as above, your
Internet connection may need this service running due to some ISP's logon
processes. Test it out with Disabled. If your connection fails, set it to
Automatic.]]
http://www.beemerworld.com/tips/servicesxp.htm

I disagree with this one##...
Windows Firewall (ICF) and Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)
[[Leave this on Automatic even if you're running a third-party firewall -
and if you aren't running one, stop what you're doing right now, turn off
the machine and don't start it up again until you have one installed and
running. Yes, it's that important.]]
http://www.theeldergeek.com/window [...] ervice.htm

Windows Firewall (ICF) and Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)
[[Set to Disabled, if not sharing your internet connection AND not using the
builtin firewall. Set to Automatic, if using the builtin firewall or
connection sharing.]]
http://snakefoot.fateback.com/twea [...] AREDACCESS

Telephony
[[Basically controls all dialup activity and in some cases DSL/Cable
activity.]]
http://www.theeldergeek.com/telephony.htm

Telephony
[[It provides Telephony API (TAPI) support for programs that control
telephony devices. The telephony service enables applications to act as
clients to telephony equipment such as PBXs, telephones, and modems.

It can also be used to IP based voice connections on the local computer and,
through the LAN. Though it requires that the other computers also is running
this service.]]
http://snakefoot.fateback.com/twea [...] ml#TAPISRV

Telephony
[[Provides Telephony API (TAPI) support for programs that control telephony
devices and IP based voice connections on the local computer and, through
the LAN, on servers that are also running the service.
*Dialup Networking depends on this service to be running. If you are on
Cable or DSL, test Disabled. If your connection fails, set to Automatic.]]
http://www.beemerworld.com/tips/servicesxp.htm


##
[[Q. Should I use both Internet Connection Firewall and a software firewall
from a different company on my Windows XP computer?
A. No. Running multiple software firewalls is unnecessary for typical home
computers, home networking, and small business networking scenarios.
Using two firewalls on the same connection could cause issues with
connectivity to the Internet or other unexpected behavior. One firewall,
whether it is the Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall or different
software firewall, can provide substantial protection for your computer.]]

Frequently Asked Questions About Internet Firewalls
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/firewall.asp

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In newstCIuAilFHA.2156@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl,
Will Denny <willdenny@mvps.org> hunted and pecked:
> Wes, please don't depend on BlackViper!! Various Services have to be set
> back to their defaults, otherwise other Services depending those will not
> work.
>
> --
>
> Will Denny
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
> Please reply to the News Groups
>
>
> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
> newsFJ0F4hlFHA.708@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> With cable you do not need Remote Access Connection Manager service,
>> unless
>> you are using Internet Connection Sharing or Windows Firewall. Disable
>> it.
>> However, see the Note: below.
>>
>> Remote Access Connection Manager
>> [[Creates a network connection. This service is required if you use
>> Windows
>> Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing *. If things cease to function after
>> disabling this service, put it to automatic. Note: you may require this
>> service for some direct cable or DSL providers and connections, depending
>> on
>> how they implement their logon process. If your dial-up, cable or DSL
>> internet access no longer functions properly with this service disabled,
>> place this service into automatic. If you use a hardware gateway or
>> router,
>> this service is not required.]]
>>
http://web.archive.org/web/2004112 [...] ice411.htm
>>
>> Windows Firewall (ICF) and Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) *
>> [[This service was named Internet Connection Firewall/Internet Connection
>> Sharing * with Service Pack 1a. Used to allow multiple computers on your
>> network to access the internet via only one account. This service
>> installs on the "modem" computer. It also provides a software firewall
>> for the system. If you are using a third party firewall, hardware
>> gateway/router or
>> Internet Connection Sharing software package, this service is not
>> required.]]
>>
http://web.archive.org/web/2004112 [...] on_Sharing
>>
>> I have cable, Comcast, and I do not use Windows firewall. I have these
>> two
>> plus telephony disabled.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>
>> Wes
>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>
>> In news:uCg$oXhlFHA.3568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
>> Jerry <NoSpamChiefZeke@MSN.com> hunted and pecked:
>>> When I run the Event Viewer (eventvwr.msc) and go to Event Viewer
>>> (Local)
>>>> System I noticed I have a long list of errors with a Source of Service
>>> Control Manager, Event 7001, and Property > Description of: The Remote
>>> Access Connection Manager service depends on the Telephony service which
>>> failed to start because of the following error: The service cannot be
>>> started, either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled
>>> devices associated with it.
>>>
>>> As I have no telephone modem installed (I use cable) how do I stop this
>>> error from appearing in Event Viewer - to me it makes no since to have
>>> time wasted checking on this service/event.
>>>
>>> In Services (services.msc) I do have Telephony disabled.
>>>
>>> Jerry

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain (More info?)

Hi Wes

I didn't mention ICS - where did you get that from? It's not only the
Dependencies, but also the Services that are Dependent on the Telephony
Service.

--

Will Denny
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
Please reply to the News Groups


"Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:elm0HWilFHA.2484@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Will,
>
> I understand service dependencies.
>
> The OP has no dial-up modem. Apparently his cable connection is fine
> without the Remote Access Connection Manager service running. He has the
> Telphony service disabled. He wants to get rid of the Remote Access
> Connection Manager service error in the Event Viewer. He made no mention
> of
> needing Internet Connection Sharing.
>
> He's getting the error because he has Remote Access Connection Manager
> service set to Automatic or Manual and the Telephony service is disabled.
>
> Why does he need the Remote Access Connection Manager service running???
>
> Remote Access Connection Manager
> [[Definitely required if you are using Internet Connection Sharing.]]
> http://www.theeldergeek.com/remote [...] anager.htm
>
> Remote Access Connection Manager
> [[Disabled, if not using Modem, Virtual Private Networking(VPN) or
> Internet
> Connection Sharing. Manual, if wanting the ability to create such
> connections when required.]]
> http://snakefoot.fateback.com/twea [...] tml#RASMAN
>
> Remote Access Connection Manager
> [[Creates a network connection.
> *Internet Connection Sharing requires this service and as above, your
> Internet connection may need this service running due to some ISP's logon
> processes. Test it out with Disabled. If your connection fails, set it to
> Automatic.]]
> http://www.beemerworld.com/tips/servicesxp.htm
>
> I disagree with this one##...
> Windows Firewall (ICF) and Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)
> [[Leave this on Automatic even if you're running a third-party firewall -
> and if you aren't running one, stop what you're doing right now, turn off
> the machine and don't start it up again until you have one installed and
> running. Yes, it's that important.]]
> http://www.theeldergeek.com/window [...] ervice.htm
>
> Windows Firewall (ICF) and Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)
> [[Set to Disabled, if not sharing your internet connection AND not using
> the
> builtin firewall. Set to Automatic, if using the builtin firewall or
> connection sharing.]]
> http://snakefoot.fateback.com/twea [...] AREDACCESS
>
> Telephony
> [[Basically controls all dialup activity and in some cases DSL/Cable
> activity.]]
> http://www.theeldergeek.com/telephony.htm
>
> Telephony
> [[It provides Telephony API (TAPI) support for programs that control
> telephony devices. The telephony service enables applications to act as
> clients to telephony equipment such as PBXs, telephones, and modems.
>
> It can also be used to IP based voice connections on the local computer
> and,
> through the LAN. Though it requires that the other computers also is
> running
> this service.]]
> http://snakefoot.fateback.com/twea [...] ml#TAPISRV
>
> Telephony
> [[Provides Telephony API (TAPI) support for programs that control
> telephony
> devices and IP based voice connections on the local computer and, through
> the LAN, on servers that are also running the service.
> *Dialup Networking depends on this service to be running. If you are on
> Cable or DSL, test Disabled. If your connection fails, set to Automatic.]]
> http://www.beemerworld.com/tips/servicesxp.htm
>
>
> ##
> [[Q. Should I use both Internet Connection Firewall and a software
> firewall
> from a different company on my Windows XP computer?
> A. No. Running multiple software firewalls is unnecessary for typical home
> computers, home networking, and small business networking scenarios.
> Using two firewalls on the same connection could cause issues with
> connectivity to the Internet or other unexpected behavior. One firewall,
> whether it is the Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall or different
> software firewall, can provide substantial protection for your computer.]]
>
> Frequently Asked Questions About Internet Firewalls
> http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/firewall.asp
>
> --
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>
> Wes
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> In newstCIuAilFHA.2156@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl,
> Will Denny <willdenny@mvps.org> hunted and pecked:
>> Wes, please don't depend on BlackViper!! Various Services have to be set
>> back to their defaults, otherwise other Services depending those will not
>> work.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Will Denny
>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>> Please reply to the News Groups
>>
>>
>> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> newsFJ0F4hlFHA.708@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> With cable you do not need Remote Access Connection Manager service,
>>> unless
>>> you are using Internet Connection Sharing or Windows Firewall. Disable
>>> it.
>>> However, see the Note: below.
>>>
>>> Remote Access Connection Manager
>>> [[Creates a network connection. This service is required if you use
>>> Windows
>>> Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing *. If things cease to function
>>> after
>>> disabling this service, put it to automatic. Note: you may require this
>>> service for some direct cable or DSL providers and connections,
>>> depending
>>> on
>>> how they implement their logon process. If your dial-up, cable or DSL
>>> internet access no longer functions properly with this service disabled,
>>> place this service into automatic. If you use a hardware gateway or
>>> router,
>>> this service is not required.]]
>>>
> http://web.archive.org/web/2004112 [...] ice411.htm
>>>
>>> Windows Firewall (ICF) and Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) *
>>> [[This service was named Internet Connection Firewall/Internet
>>> Connection
>>> Sharing * with Service Pack 1a. Used to allow multiple computers on your
>>> network to access the internet via only one account. This service
>>> installs on the "modem" computer. It also provides a software firewall
>>> for the system. If you are using a third party firewall, hardware
>>> gateway/router or
>>> Internet Connection Sharing software package, this service is not
>>> required.]]
>>>
> http://web.archive.org/web/2004112 [...] on_Sharing
>>>
>>> I have cable, Comcast, and I do not use Windows firewall. I have these
>>> two
>>> plus telephony disabled.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>>
>>> Wes
>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>
>>> In news:uCg$oXhlFHA.3568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
>>> Jerry <NoSpamChiefZeke@MSN.com> hunted and pecked:
>>>> When I run the Event Viewer (eventvwr.msc) and go to Event Viewer
>>>> (Local)
>>>>> System I noticed I have a long list of errors with a Source of Service
>>>> Control Manager, Event 7001, and Property > Description of: The Remote
>>>> Access Connection Manager service depends on the Telephony service
>>>> which
>>>> failed to start because of the following error: The service cannot be
>>>> started, either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled
>>>> devices associated with it.
>>>>
>>>> As I have no telephone modem installed (I use cable) how do I stop this
>>>> error from appearing in Event Viewer - to me it makes no since to have
>>>> time wasted checking on this service/event.
>>>>
>>>> In Services (services.msc) I do have Telephony disabled.
>>>>
>>>> Jerry
>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain (More info?)

Hi Will,

I brought ICS up. It seems to be one of the five reasons for having the
Remote Access Connection Manager service running in the first place.

1. Using a telephone modem.
2. Using Virtual Private Networking (VPN).
3. Using Internet Connection Sharing (ICS).
4. Some ISP's logon processes may need it.
5. Using Windows Firewall.

If none of those five things are needed, then the Remote Access Connection
Manager service doesn't need to run.

Fax service, Remote Access Auto Connection Manager service and Remote Access
Connection Manager service all depend on the Telephony service.

If none of those services are needed for anything, they should be disabled.

If any of them do not have something that can be exploited now, they
probably will in the future.

How many critical updates have we had since XP SP2 came out?

Microsoft Security Bulletin Summaries and Webcasts
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/s [...] mmary.mspx

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news5%238OdilFHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl,
Will Denny <willdenny@mvps.org> hunted and pecked:
> Hi Wes
>
> I didn't mention ICS - where did you get that from? It's not only the
> Dependencies, but also the Services that are Dependent on the Telephony
> Service.
>
> --
>
> Will Denny
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
> Please reply to the News Groups
>
>
> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:elm0HWilFHA.2484@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Will,
>>
>> I understand service dependencies.
>>
>> The OP has no dial-up modem. Apparently his cable connection is fine
>> without the Remote Access Connection Manager service running. He has the
>> Telphony service disabled. He wants to get rid of the Remote Access
>> Connection Manager service error in the Event Viewer. He made no mention
>> of
>> needing Internet Connection Sharing.
>>
>> He's getting the error because he has Remote Access Connection Manager
>> service set to Automatic or Manual and the Telephony service is disabled.
>>
>> Why does he need the Remote Access Connection Manager service running???
>>
>> Remote Access Connection Manager
>> [[Definitely required if you are using Internet Connection Sharing.]]
>> http://www.theeldergeek.com/remote [...] anager.htm
>>
>> Remote Access Connection Manager
>> [[Disabled, if not using Modem, Virtual Private Networking(VPN) or
>> Internet
>> Connection Sharing. Manual, if wanting the ability to create such
>> connections when required.]]
>> http://snakefoot.fateback.com/twea [...] tml#RASMAN
>>
>> Remote Access Connection Manager
>> [[Creates a network connection.
>> *Internet Connection Sharing requires this service and as above, your
>> Internet connection may need this service running due to some ISP's logon
>> processes. Test it out with Disabled. If your connection fails, set it to
>> Automatic.]]
>> http://www.beemerworld.com/tips/servicesxp.htm
>>
>> I disagree with this one##...
>> Windows Firewall (ICF) and Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)
>> [[Leave this on Automatic even if you're running a third-party firewall -
>> and if you aren't running one, stop what you're doing right now, turn off
>> the machine and don't start it up again until you have one installed and
>> running. Yes, it's that important.]]
>>
http://www.theeldergeek.com/window [...] ervice.htm
>>
>> Windows Firewall (ICF) and Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)
>> [[Set to Disabled, if not sharing your internet connection AND not using
>> the
>> builtin firewall. Set to Automatic, if using the builtin firewall or
>> connection sharing.]]
>> http://snakefoot.fateback.com/twea [...] AREDACCESS
>>
>> Telephony
>> [[Basically controls all dialup activity and in some cases DSL/Cable
>> activity.]]
>> http://www.theeldergeek.com/telephony.htm
>>
>> Telephony
>> [[It provides Telephony API (TAPI) support for programs that control
>> telephony devices. The telephony service enables applications to act as
>> clients to telephony equipment such as PBXs, telephones, and modems.
>>
>> It can also be used to IP based voice connections on the local computer
>> and,
>> through the LAN. Though it requires that the other computers also is
>> running
>> this service.]]
>> http://snakefoot.fateback.com/twea [...] ml#TAPISRV
>>
>> Telephony
>> [[Provides Telephony API (TAPI) support for programs that control
>> telephony
>> devices and IP based voice connections on the local computer and, through
>> the LAN, on servers that are also running the service.
>> *Dialup Networking depends on this service to be running. If you are on
>> Cable or DSL, test Disabled. If your connection fails, set to
>> Automatic.]] http://www.beemerworld.com/tips/servicesxp.htm
>>
>>
>> ##
>> [[Q. Should I use both Internet Connection Firewall and a software
>> firewall
>> from a different company on my Windows XP computer?
>> A. No. Running multiple software firewalls is unnecessary for typical
>> home computers, home networking, and small business networking scenarios.
>> Using two firewalls on the same connection could cause issues with
>> connectivity to the Internet or other unexpected behavior. One firewall,
>> whether it is the Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall or different
>> software firewall, can provide substantial protection for your
>> computer.]]
>>
>> Frequently Asked Questions About Internet Firewalls
>> http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/firewall.asp
>>
>> --
>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>
>> Wes
>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>
>> In newstCIuAilFHA.2156@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl,
>> Will Denny <willdenny@mvps.org> hunted and pecked:
>>> Wes, please don't depend on BlackViper!! Various Services have to be
>>> set back to their defaults, otherwise other Services depending those
>>> will not work.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Will Denny
>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>> Please reply to the News Groups
>>>
>>>
>>> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> newsFJ0F4hlFHA.708@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>> With cable you do not need Remote Access Connection Manager service,
>>>> unless
>>>> you are using Internet Connection Sharing or Windows Firewall. Disable
>>>> it.
>>>> However, see the Note: below.
>>>>
>>>> Remote Access Connection Manager
>>>> [[Creates a network connection. This service is required if you use
>>>> Windows
>>>> Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing *. If things cease to function
>>>> after
>>>> disabling this service, put it to automatic. Note: you may require this
>>>> service for some direct cable or DSL providers and connections,
>>>> depending
>>>> on
>>>> how they implement their logon process. If your dial-up, cable or DSL
>>>> internet access no longer functions properly with this service
>>>> disabled, place this service into automatic. If you use a hardware
>>>> gateway or router,
>>>> this service is not required.]]
>>>>
>>
http://web.archive.org/web/2004112 [...] ice411.htm
>>>>
>>>> Windows Firewall (ICF) and Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) *
>>>> [[This service was named Internet Connection Firewall/Internet
>>>> Connection
>>>> Sharing * with Service Pack 1a. Used to allow multiple computers on
>>>> your network to access the internet via only one account. This service
>>>> installs on the "modem" computer. It also provides a software firewall
>>>> for the system. If you are using a third party firewall, hardware
>>>> gateway/router or
>>>> Internet Connection Sharing software package, this service is not
>>>> required.]]
>>>>
>>
http://web.archive.org/web/2004112 [...] on_Sharing
>>>>
>>>> I have cable, Comcast, and I do not use Windows firewall. I have these
>>>> two
>>>> plus telephony disabled.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>>>
>>>> Wes
>>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>>
>>>> In news:uCg$oXhlFHA.3568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
>>>> Jerry <NoSpamChiefZeke@MSN.com> hunted and pecked:
>>>>> When I run the Event Viewer (eventvwr.msc) and go to Event Viewer
>>>>> (Local)
>>>>>> System I noticed I have a long list of errors with a Source of
>>>>>> Service
>>>>> Control Manager, Event 7001, and Property > Description of: The
>>>>> Remote Access Connection Manager service depends on the Telephony
>>>>> service which
>>>>> failed to start because of the following error: The service cannot be
>>>>> started, either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled
>>>>> devices associated with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I have no telephone modem installed (I use cable) how do I stop
>>>>> this error from appearing in Event Viewer - to me it makes no since
>>>>> to have time wasted checking on this service/event.
>>>>>
>>>>> In Services (services.msc) I do have Telephony disabled.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jerry

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Thanks for the answers - I will check them out.

I AM NOT using ICS. I AM NOT using VPN. I have a direct connection to the
web via my router and a cable modem. I have NO telephone modem installed, as
mentioned earlier.

Jerry
"Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
newscm$v2ilFHA.3256@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi Will,
>
> I brought ICS up. It seems to be one of the five reasons for having the
> Remote Access Connection Manager service running in the first place.
>
> 1. Using a telephone modem.
> 2. Using Virtual Private Networking (VPN).
> 3. Using Internet Connection Sharing (ICS).
> 4. Some ISP's logon processes may need it.
> 5. Using Windows Firewall.
>
> If none of those five things are needed, then the Remote Access Connection
> Manager service doesn't need to run.
>
> Fax service, Remote Access Auto Connection Manager service and Remote
> Access
> Connection Manager service all depend on the Telephony service.
>
> If none of those services are needed for anything, they should be
> disabled.
>
> If any of them do not have something that can be exploited now, they
> probably will in the future.
>
> How many critical updates have we had since XP SP2 came out?
>
> Microsoft Security Bulletin Summaries and Webcasts
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/s [...] mmary.mspx
>
> --
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>
> Wes
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> In news5%238OdilFHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl,
> Will Denny <willdenny@mvps.org> hunted and pecked:
>> Hi Wes
>>
>> I didn't mention ICS - where did you get that from? It's not only the
>> Dependencies, but also the Services that are Dependent on the Telephony
>> Service.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Will Denny
>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>> Please reply to the News Groups
>>
>>
>> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:elm0HWilFHA.2484@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>> Will,
>>>
>>> I understand service dependencies.
>>>
>>> The OP has no dial-up modem. Apparently his cable connection is fine
>>> without the Remote Access Connection Manager service running. He has
>>> the
>>> Telphony service disabled. He wants to get rid of the Remote Access
>>> Connection Manager service error in the Event Viewer. He made no
>>> mention
>>> of
>>> needing Internet Connection Sharing.
>>>
>>> He's getting the error because he has Remote Access Connection Manager
>>> service set to Automatic or Manual and the Telephony service is
>>> disabled.
>>>
>>> Why does he need the Remote Access Connection Manager service running???
>>>
>>> Remote Access Connection Manager
>>> [[Definitely required if you are using Internet Connection Sharing.]]
>>> http://www.theeldergeek.com/remote [...] anager.htm
>>>
>>> Remote Access Connection Manager
>>> [[Disabled, if not using Modem, Virtual Private Networking(VPN) or
>>> Internet
>>> Connection Sharing. Manual, if wanting the ability to create such
>>> connections when required.]]
>>> http://snakefoot.fateback.com/twea [...] tml#RASMAN
>>>
>>> Remote Access Connection Manager
>>> [[Creates a network connection.
>>> *Internet Connection Sharing requires this service and as above, your
>>> Internet connection may need this service running due to some ISP's
>>> logon
>>> processes. Test it out with Disabled. If your connection fails, set it
>>> to
>>> Automatic.]]
>>> http://www.beemerworld.com/tips/servicesxp.htm
>>>
>>> I disagree with this one##...
>>> Windows Firewall (ICF) and Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)
>>> [[Leave this on Automatic even if you're running a third-party
>>> firewall -
>>> and if you aren't running one, stop what you're doing right now, turn
>>> off
>>> the machine and don't start it up again until you have one installed and
>>> running. Yes, it's that important.]]
>>>
> http://www.theeldergeek.com/window [...] ervice.htm
>>>
>>> Windows Firewall (ICF) and Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)
>>> [[Set to Disabled, if not sharing your internet connection AND not using
>>> the
>>> builtin firewall. Set to Automatic, if using the builtin firewall or
>>> connection sharing.]]
>>> http://snakefoot.fateback.com/twea [...] AREDACCESS
>>>
>>> Telephony
>>> [[Basically controls all dialup activity and in some cases DSL/Cable
>>> activity.]]
>>> http://www.theeldergeek.com/telephony.htm
>>>
>>> Telephony
>>> [[It provides Telephony API (TAPI) support for programs that control
>>> telephony devices. The telephony service enables applications to act as
>>> clients to telephony equipment such as PBXs, telephones, and modems.
>>>
>>> It can also be used to IP based voice connections on the local computer
>>> and,
>>> through the LAN. Though it requires that the other computers also is
>>> running
>>> this service.]]
>>> http://snakefoot.fateback.com/twea [...] ml#TAPISRV
>>>
>>> Telephony
>>> [[Provides Telephony API (TAPI) support for programs that control
>>> telephony
>>> devices and IP based voice connections on the local computer and,
>>> through
>>> the LAN, on servers that are also running the service.
>>> *Dialup Networking depends on this service to be running. If you are on
>>> Cable or DSL, test Disabled. If your connection fails, set to
>>> Automatic.]] http://www.beemerworld.com/tips/servicesxp.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> ##
>>> [[Q. Should I use both Internet Connection Firewall and a software
>>> firewall
>>> from a different company on my Windows XP computer?
>>> A. No. Running multiple software firewalls is unnecessary for typical
>>> home computers, home networking, and small business networking
>>> scenarios.
>>> Using two firewalls on the same connection could cause issues with
>>> connectivity to the Internet or other unexpected behavior. One firewall,
>>> whether it is the Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall or different
>>> software firewall, can provide substantial protection for your
>>> computer.]]
>>>
>>> Frequently Asked Questions About Internet Firewalls
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/firewall.asp
>>>
>>> --
>>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>>
>>> Wes
>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>
>>> In newstCIuAilFHA.2156@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl,
>>> Will Denny <willdenny@mvps.org> hunted and pecked:
>>>> Wes, please don't depend on BlackViper!! Various Services have to be
>>>> set back to their defaults, otherwise other Services depending those
>>>> will not work.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Will Denny
>>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>> Please reply to the News Groups
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> newsFJ0F4hlFHA.708@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>>> With cable you do not need Remote Access Connection Manager service,
>>>>> unless
>>>>> you are using Internet Connection Sharing or Windows Firewall.
>>>>> Disable
>>>>> it.
>>>>> However, see the Note: below.
>>>>>
>>>>> Remote Access Connection Manager
>>>>> [[Creates a network connection. This service is required if you use
>>>>> Windows
>>>>> Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing *. If things cease to function
>>>>> after
>>>>> disabling this service, put it to automatic. Note: you may require
>>>>> this
>>>>> service for some direct cable or DSL providers and connections,
>>>>> depending
>>>>> on
>>>>> how they implement their logon process. If your dial-up, cable or DSL
>>>>> internet access no longer functions properly with this service
>>>>> disabled, place this service into automatic. If you use a hardware
>>>>> gateway or router,
>>>>> this service is not required.]]
>>>>>
>>>
> http://web.archive.org/web/2004112 [...] ice411.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows Firewall (ICF) and Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) *
>>>>> [[This service was named Internet Connection Firewall/Internet
>>>>> Connection
>>>>> Sharing * with Service Pack 1a. Used to allow multiple computers on
>>>>> your network to access the internet via only one account. This service
>>>>> installs on the "modem" computer. It also provides a software firewall
>>>>> for the system. If you are using a third party firewall, hardware
>>>>> gateway/router or
>>>>> Internet Connection Sharing software package, this service is not
>>>>> required.]]
>>>>>
>>>
> http://web.archive.org/web/2004112 [...] on_Sharing
>>>>>
>>>>> I have cable, Comcast, and I do not use Windows firewall. I have
>>>>> these
>>>>> two
>>>>> plus telephony disabled.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wes
>>>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>>>
>>>>> In news:uCg$oXhlFHA.3568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
>>>>> Jerry <NoSpamChiefZeke@MSN.com> hunted and pecked:
>>>>>> When I run the Event Viewer (eventvwr.msc) and go to Event Viewer
>>>>>> (Local)
>>>>>>> System I noticed I have a long list of errors with a Source of
>>>>>>> Service
>>>>>> Control Manager, Event 7001, and Property > Description of: The
>>>>>> Remote Access Connection Manager service depends on the Telephony
>>>>>> service which
>>>>>> failed to start because of the following error: The service cannot be
>>>>>> started, either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled
>>>>>> devices associated with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I have no telephone modem installed (I use cable) how do I stop
>>>>>> this error from appearing in Event Viewer - to me it makes no since
>>>>>> to have time wasted checking on this service/event.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In Services (services.msc) I do have Telephony disabled.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jerry
>

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Wesley,

Read the answers and suggestions.

Went and checked Services, found Remote Access Connection Manager to be in
Manual - changed to Disabled.

Also, opened Event Viewer to see listing for today 01 Aug - found nothing;
last Error was for yesterday. Since I had not yet changed anyhting I haven't
a clue as to why, today, there were no errors (as mentioned in my original
message).

Rebooted with the one change in Services and everything is working OK -
browser, e-mail, etc.

To me, if the Telephony Service is disabled there should be a link somewhere
to tell the user to disable all the other Remote ... stuff you mentioned;
assuming also the other stuff you listed is also not required.

Last time I checked the Black Viper site was down but I do have a copy of
his listings for review and I used the book "Hacking Windows XP" by Steve
Sinchak to review unneeded services but it only lists the Remote Procedure
Call - the others you mentioned were not in Steve's book.

Again - thanks. I'll just have to periodically review things to see what
else may happen.

Jerry

"Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
newscm$v2ilFHA.3256@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi Will,
>
> I brought ICS up. It seems to be one of the five reasons for having the
> Remote Access Connection Manager service running in the first place.
>
> 1. Using a telephone modem.
> 2. Using Virtual Private Networking (VPN).
> 3. Using Internet Connection Sharing (ICS).
> 4. Some ISP's logon processes may need it.
>