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I am having some difficulty doing a hard reset on an original graphite.
Someone said there is a utility somewhere which is designed for multiple
systems which is no longer available on the Apple site which does the trick.
Does anyone know where it might be located now?

I have connected to my G4 using an ordinary Ethernet cable (I originally
tried the crossover cable and it wouldn't see the airport at all) and the
base station appears with the name NOTYOURNETWORK and the correct IP. It
asked me for the password so I put in Public and that crashed the computer,
which is running Panther so it must be something pretty drastic wrong.
Re-starting with the Airport in place and doing this again just gave me the
message that it couldn't get into the configuration setup. Presumably
someone has changed the password.

I must have pressed the hole for over a minute at the correct time about
fifteen times by now, both when powering up AND when the three lights show.
And the unit does seem to be functioning properly as it does seem to be
cycling properly and it shows NOTYOURNETWORK on other computers on my
network: But again, all show it with that darn network key required. Is
there supposed to be a way around this or am I STILL doing something wrong?
(I have already posted about using Apple Doc 58613 and everyone seemed to
run out of ideas when that reset procedure didnt work). I can see that I
shouldn't be able to reset the password over the air but surely I should be
able to do this on my own unit somehow on a hard wire? I wonder if that
utility would accomplish this and if so, where it is now or if any one knows
of some other way to reset the system? Can I force it to RE-load the
firmware somehow? I know that on a car, you can sometimes get a dicky
starter motor to work by quickly changing terminals on the battery before
the change has had time to blow anything on the circuit and am wondering if
there is an Airport equivalent of this to force some type of hard reset when
58613 doesn't work?

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On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 09:45:51 -0400, "news.rcn.com" <news.rnc.com>
wrote:

>I am having some difficulty doing a hard reset on an original graphite.

How to do a grand reset:
http://www.vonwentzel.net/ABS/Reset/index.html

I've seen this reset problem on the original Airport base stations and
on some Lucent RG-1000 boxes as an early symptom of defective
capacitors. If you feel ambitious, open the case and look for bulges
or leaks near the two power supply electrolytics.
http://www.vonwentzel.net/ABS/Repair/
I don't approve of the butchery performed in fixing the problem. Just
replace the caps with identical value and types. Also, note the
comments on the PLCC chip that's loose in the socket. I've seen this
problem after the airport gets dropped.

I don't know about Mac software for configuring the airport but you
might want to try some of the PC based alternatives.
http://edge.mcs.drexel.edu/GICL/people/sevy/airport/
http://freebase.sourceforge.net/


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In uk.comp.sys.mac Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:
> capacitors. If you feel ambitious, open the case and look for bulges
> or leaks near the two power supply electrolytics.
> http://www.vonwentzel.net/ABS/Repair/
> I don't approve of the butchery performed in fixing the problem. Just
> replace the caps with identical value and types. Also, note the

Yeah, I've done this, easy soldering job. I've probably got some
capacitors left over that fit.

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Thanks for the reply guys, it now shows me two things: Firstly, I thought
that I was going crazy but in fact sometimes the apple reset procedure
indeed doesn't work, - as I am experiencing: In which case, as is set out
on that page:
"Rebooting the ABS without the WaveLAN card in the carrier worked - the ABS
would complete the boot process, but wasn't of much use without a
transmitter. I had to reset and try to upload the new firmware several times
before it took root.
After I had managed to update the firmware and the location settings, I
re-inserted the WaveLAN card and the ABS became fully functional again.
Unfortunately, it was a long and somewhat arbitrary process - reset, look,
reset, upload firmware, etc. Perhaps the ABS needs to go through several
cycles to purge the old settings... who knows. Now my original ABS is fully
functional again and I won't make the same mistake twice that caused it to
go in the first place." How on earth can Apple design and put a product
like this on the market in which you can enter complex details but which
cant be reset by pushing on the reset button which is there for this precise
purpose?

Secondly, this seems like an unnecessarily complicated procedure if the unit
won't go back together easily; and if purging the old settings is all that
complicated, it is probably better to dump the unit, not to mention wonder
if the whole problem might be caused by needing to replace caps etc.

Anyway I am now reassured that this isn't something I have done wrong or
that I was just mis-identifying the amber glowing LEDs as red ones and may
see if someone wants to tinker with it (somewhere like on ebay)

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Lemme rephrase that before anyone takes anything out of context: There was
one essential step left out of 58613: If you keep the reset button pressed
in for 30 second periods, plug the power line in and take it out when the
cycle has finished, keep doing a few times, do this this while restarting
the computer (it causes OSX to start in frozen mode but let's not worry
about that too much as it didnt do it TWICE), and then do it again a few
more times

THE UNIT RESETS ITSELF