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Personally I think Microsoft dropping improvement support for Win2K Pro really sucks, any of us that know just how good Win2K Pro is, should be upset about this, Win2K Pro w SP4 actually performs better than Microsoft had expected it to, and is seriously cutting into their expectations of WinXP becoming the OP/SYS of choice.  
 
Too many companies today are using Win2K Pro and their systems are running just fine, so obviously they're not too keen on changing to another OP/SYS when the one they're using is doing the job, not to mention the money involved, downtime, and possible problems with switching over to another OP/SYS.
 
Why drop improvement support on a perfectly good OP/SYS thats performing as well as Win2K Pro does, I know its about money, but sometimes Microshaft just doesn't make sense!
 
What do you think?
 
 
 
 
 
 
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I think Windows 2000 is 5 and a half years old.  Let it die!  :evil:  
 
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Both my mother and father are still running WinNT 2000, but they are old and resist change ;)
XP is much better, and hey, if 2000 floats yer boat, sail away :)
 
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XP does not run on 486 systems anyway ;)
 
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Oh Great! The only replies I get, are from Dumb and Dumber! :)
 
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Cry me a river.
 
@ RichPLS - You are SO dumber!  :lol:  
 
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ROFL How've you been doing Ned? I did give you prestige over Rich :)
 
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Just cracking on you guys, I don't think either one of you is dumb, thats for sure!
 
 
 
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I think Windows 2000 is 5 and a half years old.


 
Its probably the best of Microsofts accomplishments besides XP, for the business world its still seriously hanging in there, and would stay a threat to XP if Microsoft hadn't dropped improvement support for it.
 
Which will cause problems in the long run security wise because some business owners just aren't going to spend the money to change to a new OP/SYS.
 
 

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Let it die!


 
 
That surely isn't up to me Ned, but I do dual boot with Win2K Pro and WinXP Pro, Win2K is my business end and XP is my play end of things.
 
Using both OP/SYS really gives me the opportunity to see the best and worst of both of them and 2K is still really good, especially after SP4 was released.
 
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From what you posted there really wasn't anything worth replying to, So have a nice day! OK.
 
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2k is good. XP has slight improvements over it, but until there is a major improvement over 2k, let it live. It uses AD and works with XP and Server nicely.
 
They're looking for the money, but it's also expensive to keep people around supporting that system. They want to use their talent that created 2k to update XP also.. which also requires a lot of time. I understand what you're saying and agree. I think 95/98/NT should die off.
 
But at my work.. we're still using things back to Win 3.11 on a very few computers. We have a huge amount of 95/98/ME..
 
I'm in the IT department. My boss doesn't want to move to VLK because he doesn't understand the benefits.
 
I'm glad that Microsoft is dropping support because that causes people to update their systems.. Crazy as it is, my IT department doesn't hold sway in telling users what OS they're going to be using.
 
This causes my company to get updated at least.

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I understand your point its amazing to me just how many major corporations are still using even Win95 on their systems that do not have internet capabilities, and they're like "Hey Its Working Just Fine For What We're Using It For.".    
 
We're fooling ourselves if we think even dropping 2Ks improvement support, is the end of it,  I do wonder when Microsoft was first pushing the heck out of XP, did they even realize how many corporations were still using systems like 95, 98, and NT, and had no intentions of changing?
 
It is a money thing as you said and Microsoft will be wanting to drop XP support, shortly after Longhorn is marketed, and I'll bet you some of these stubborn companies will still be running 95. ROFLMAO
 
 
 
 
 
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Microsoft is trying to move from a feast/famine type market.. where they make huge surges of money in one year when they release a new OS or Office product.. then for 2-3 years they don't make any money.. that's where the VLK comes into play where you buy for 3 years.. they know their revenue for the next 3 years.. you can't blame them on that front.. by doing that, everyone would get XP.. business-wise.. if you don't go with that then they have to support older systems..
 
I see where they're coming from.. Bally's Total Fitness does the same thing.. you have to sign up for a 2-3 year contract at a set amount because they're on the public stock exchange.. investors want to know they're yearly revenue and know it'll hold steady.
 
Now, for my company.. we have more money than anyone knows what to do with.. its insane how much extra capital this company has.
 
But for some reason they don't want to upgrade computers until it dies.. and my manager really isn't up to date in the business world of computers.. he moved the company from a domain to a workgroup as it expanded.. he made things harder instead of easier.. because he didn't want to learn how to use 2k or XP in a domain.
 
Yet he won't push to make everyone update to at least 2000 and he won't push for a VLK agreement with microsoft.. so we spend ungodly amounts of money buying new versions of office.. we buy dell desktops and ibm laptop for some reason.. office versions are licenses while laptop and desktop OSs are per machine.. but we keep buying more and more office copies after a machine is dead.. when with the VLK we would already have it and not need to buy new..  
 
it's crazy and it gives me a headache when I think about it.. heh.
 
Kudos to microsoft for taking a stance though.. but 2k should stick around... though having 1 OS to support would be much easier.. as most company IT departments find that ideal too.

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I'm in the IT department. My boss doesn't want to move to VLK because he doesn't understand the benefits.


Neither do I, but I installed it cuz it was free.
 
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Win2k3 has huge improvements in Active Directory over Win2k's. There is a lot more customization/scalability in 2k3 over 2k.
 
Security improvements are the biggest I notice. 2k3 comes locked down and with basic security setup, while 2k comes unlocked.
 
For beginners, 2k3 requires a complex password. That's the first major noticable thing. 2k3's security has been overhauled.
 
If you don't notice an improvement from 2k to 2k3, it's about the same as saying you didn't notice an improvement from win2k to winxp?
 
Remote Desktop along is worthwhile.. it's the upgraded version of TC and it works so much better and a lot faster.

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It's Bills way of showing kindness to people like me.


 
 
What do you mean?
 
 
 
 
 
 
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He's referring to VLK copies of Windows.
 
But it's all recorded by Microsoft.. so when the agreement comes up for renewing (3 years) and you don't get the update from Microsoft, your Windows with VLK supposed is no longer supported..