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With the merger of Cingular and AT&T, I have just been waiting for VZW
to announce a merger that will turn things upside down. Does anyone
have any idea if something like that will happen?

Is it likely that VZW will continue to battle Cingular and AT&T on its
own with partnerships or do you think they will make a big purchase?

Who would be a likely candidate for VZW to buy that would provide the
type of coverage that could help VZW?

Just looking for opinions here. I know there are probably no absolute
answers that anyone can provide on the group, but it's an interesting
topic.

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Stephen wrote:

> With the merger of Cingular and AT&T, I have just been waiting for VZW
> to announce a merger that will turn things upside down. Does anyone
> have any idea if something like that will happen?
>
> Is it likely that VZW will continue to battle Cingular and AT&T on its
> own with partnerships or do you think they will make a big purchase?
>
> Who would be a likely candidate for VZW to buy that would provide the
> type of coverage that could help VZW?

A carrier that has coverage in the Plains states and has compatible technology,
but the only major carrier I know that fits that description is Sprint PCS and
I don't think they're selling...


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Verizon has been following a much more economical acquision program. They
are picking up spectrum at relatively bargain prices. They were intitially
offered the whole Qwest Wireless network for $2 Billion. They waited a
couple years and picked it ALL up for only $400 Million, minus the
customers.

Today, they agreed to buy the NTelos network in PA, also at a "bargain." If
they buy a large network, they would overpay. Their current plan to buy
right and keep costs low, seems to be prudent. It will keeps the stock
price high, and their money goes to the network, not to the bankers who
financed Cingular.

Bill Radio
Click for Western U.S. Wireless Reviews at:
http://www.mountainwireless.com



"Stephen" <hatethatspam@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> With the merger of Cingular and AT&T, I have just been waiting for VZW
> to announce a merger that will turn things upside down. Does anyone
> have any idea if something like that will happen?
>

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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:43:55 -0700, "Bill Radio"
<Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote:

>Today, they agreed to buy the NTelos network in PA, also at a "bargain." If
>they buy a large network, they would overpay.

Is this the entire nTelos network, or just spectrum in PA?

nTelos is actually a PCS carrier that serves a large chunk of areas
like West Virginia and Virginia. It's based in the Shenandoah Valley
area of VA, I believe. It was PCS CDMA when I was in Roanoke (VZW is
A side CDMA/cellular and U.S. Cellular was B side).

Mike

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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 01:14:19 -0500, Mike <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:43:55 -0700, "Bill Radio"
><Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote:
>
>>Today, they agreed to buy the NTelos network in PA, also at a "bargain." If
>>they buy a large network, they would overpay.
>
>Is this the entire nTelos network, or just spectrum in PA?

Answering myself:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041123/nytu105_1.html

(quoting

BEDMINSTER, N.J., Nov. 23 /PRNewswire/ -- Verizon Wireless and NTELOS
Inc. today announced a definitive agreement for Verizon Wireless to
purchase from NTELOS 10MHz spectrum licenses in Pennsylvania for $15.5
million.

The agreement includes spectrum licenses for the Harrisburg,
Lancaster, Reading and York areas, which cover a population of 2.1
million people. These licenses, all in the 1900 MHz frequency range,
will be used to expand the company's network capacity in those markets
to meet growing demand for the company's voice and data services.

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In news:co14n7$h4q$2@ratbert.glorb.com,
Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> typed:
[ ... ]
> A carrier that has coverage in the Plains states and has compatible
> technology, but the only major carrier I know that fits that
> description is Sprint PCS and I don't think they're selling...

ALLTEL might be a possibility - but for AC they pretty well blend together
already.
When I roam on ALLTEL in KS - everything works - except internet access is
low speed.

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Bill is right on the money. He has one VERY educated opinion. At this time
the purchase of AT&T Wireless by Cingular isn't too big of a threat to
Verizon Wireless as it will take at least three years for them to "get their
stuff together." And the three year timeframe isn't my opinion, but the
publicly stated opinion of Stan Sigman, Cingular CEO.

-julie

"Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote in message
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> Verizon has been following a much more economical acquision program. They
> are picking up spectrum at relatively bargain prices. They were
> intitially
> offered the whole Qwest Wireless network for $2 Billion. They waited a
> couple years and picked it ALL up for only $400 Million, minus the
> customers.
>
> Today, they agreed to buy the NTelos network in PA, also at a "bargain."
> If
> they buy a large network, they would overpay. Their current plan to buy
> right and keep costs low, seems to be prudent. It will keeps the stock
> price high, and their money goes to the network, not to the bankers who
> financed Cingular.
>
> Bill Radio
> Click for Western U.S. Wireless Reviews at:
> http://www.mountainwireless.com
>
>
>
> "Stephen" <hatethatspam@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1101272573.274775.201840@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> With the merger of Cingular and AT&T, I have just been waiting for VZW
>> to announce a merger that will turn things upside down. Does anyone
>> have any idea if something like that will happen?
>>
>
>

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Stephen, did you know that thanks to Vodafone (the 49% owners of VZW)
Cingular paid $41 Billion for AWE? If you recall AWE was put on the auction
block.

"Stephen" <hatethatspam@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1101272573.274775.201840@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> With the merger of Cingular and AT&T, I have just been waiting for VZW
> to announce a merger that will turn things upside down. Does anyone
> have any idea if something like that will happen?
>
> Is it likely that VZW will continue to battle Cingular and AT&T on its
> own with partnerships or do you think they will make a big purchase?
>
> Who would be a likely candidate for VZW to buy that would provide the
> type of coverage that could help VZW?
>
> Just looking for opinions here. I know there are probably no absolute
> answers that anyone can provide on the group, but it's an interesting
> topic.
>

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Sounds like Vodafone did a number on them. I just hope this helps open
up some additional "extras" (like unlimited text messaging for a flat
fee) at VZW. I don't mind paying a little more for VZW because I
believe the network is just so much better. However, I would like to
have them compete on some of the extras.

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"Stephen" <hatethatspam@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sounds like Vodafone did a number on them. I just hope this helps open
> up some additional "extras" (like unlimited text messaging for a flat
> fee) at VZW. I don't mind paying a little more for VZW because I
> believe the network is just so much better. However, I would like to
> have them compete on some of the extras.
>

VZW has Text Bundles. However I don't see a Unlimited. But hey who knows.

Elector

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Bill Radio wrote:

>Verizon has been following a much more economical acquision program. They
>are picking up spectrum at relatively bargain prices. They were intitially
>offered the whole Qwest Wireless network for $2 Billion. They waited a
>couple years and picked it ALL up for only $400 Million, minus the
>customers.
>
>Today, they agreed to buy the NTelos network in PA, also at a "bargain." If
>they buy a large network, they would overpay. Their current plan to buy
>right and keep costs low, seems to be prudent. It will keeps the stock
>price high, and their money goes to the network, not to the bankers who
>financed Cingular.
>
>Bill Radio
>Click for Western U.S. Wireless Reviews at:
>http://www.mountainwireless.com
>
>
>
>"Stephen" <hatethatspam@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1101272573.274775.201840@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>>With the merger of Cingular and AT&T, I have just been waiting for VZW
>>to announce a merger that will turn things upside down. Does anyone
>>have any idea if something like that will happen?
>>
smart people..... don't think the want their corp to be paying gobs of
interest to the bankers.

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hatethatspam@gmail.com (Stephen) wrote in <1101272573.274775.201840
@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>:

>With the merger of Cingular and AT&T, I have just been waiting for VZW
>to announce a merger that will turn things upside down. Does anyone
>have any idea if something like that will happen?

VZW just announced that it's going to acquire NextWave, the company that
scammed the FCC out of billions of dollars in PCS auction revenue via the
bankruptcy process. Nextwave had won a long court battle against the FCC,
enabling it to keep licenses that it hadn't paid for. But they had not
built out on time (well, they couldn't without knowing they had the
licenses, but that's their problem), putting most of the licenses in
jeopardy. So they settled last year, returning some of the licenses (re-
auction begins Jan. 26) and keeping some. VZW first bought some NYC
bandwidth, and now has agreed to pick up the rest of the ones Nextwave
kept. So that fills in some gaps and gives them more bandwidth in other
markets.

I don't expect VZW to acquire a major competitor (they're too big already)
but they're more than willing to buy 10 MHz here, 20 MHz there.

--
Fred R. Goldstein k1io fgoldstein"at" wn.net
These are my own opinions. You expect anyone else to agree?

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Personally I would be happy just to see VZW improve its SMS system. It's
quite lousy and unreliable.

I would also alike VZW to improve it's international calling rates,
international roaming rates. I still don't understand why I can't take my
VZW CDMA handset anywhere in the Americas (i.e. Central and South) and use
it if there are CDMA networks built out.

I guess VZW is being compassionate to AT&T-Cingular by allowing them to be
the best as something and therefore still capture some business.

-julie

"Stephen" <hatethatspam@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sounds like Vodafone did a number on them. I just hope this helps open
> up some additional "extras" (like unlimited text messaging for a flat
> fee) at VZW. I don't mind paying a little more for VZW because I
> believe the network is just so much better. However, I would like to
> have them compete on some of the extras.
>

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What in the world are you talking about? I've had VZW for a couple of
years now. Typically I have a 150-200 SMS message count each month. I
message to a couple of pagers, the rest wireless phones. RARELY do I have
to resend a message. And the incoming messages are delivered promptly ...
except those coming from AT&T customers (delay can range from 2 minutes to
ONE DAY). I'm in the Orange County/San Bernardino county area mostly. I
think your experience is either local or with your phone.
--

- Philip



Julie Ruin wrote:
> Personally I would be happy just to see VZW improve its SMS system.
> It's quite lousy and unreliable.

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"Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:bhrpd.1449$Ua.352@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> What in the world are you talking about? I've had VZW for a couple of years now.

SMS messages are supposed to be reliable (I they get delivered or you
are notified of failure). Try this as a little test - send a message
to your home landline phone.

Roger