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Can someone explain the difference between the two chips and which is
better, if one is better?

TIA
Wull

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"Wull" <wmailey@gt.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Can someone explain the difference between the two chips and which is
> better, if one is better?
>
> TIA
> Wull
>
Neither one is a "modern" chip.
The P4 is a better chip than the Celeron.
If you are looking at a new system, both the P4 and the Celeron are
obsolete.

Look into one of the AMD processors if you want the latest technology
available.

Bobby

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Have a look at:-
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20 [...] on-05.html
and for a comparison of a 3.2GHzP4 Vs a 3200+ Athlon (AMD) look at:-
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030623/index.html

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"GreenieLeBrun" <GreenieLeBrun@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Have a look at:-
> http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20 [...] on-05.html
> and for a comparison of a 3.2GHzP4 Vs a 3200+ Athlon (AMD) look at:-
> http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030623/index.html
>
I could just as easily post reviews that say just the opposite...however AMD
offers other advantages with its 64bit platform...Direct Connect
Architecture, Hypertransport Bus, *Exclusive* L1 (data)/L2 cache, a CPU
designed for 64 bit (as opposed to a reworked P4 with only EM64T).

In everyday use, in the real world, AMD CPUs are faster due to a
combination of the processor and the architecture that supports it.

FWIW, you can find reviews on tomshardware that rate AMD CPUs better than
Intel, and others that rate Intel CPUs better than AMD. I guess it depends
on what kind of mood he is on a particular day.

Smart money is on AMD.

Bobby

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Smart money on AMD?????? Is that why the Pentium or Intel has about 75% of
the market?. Is that why all the big PC manufacturers use the Pentium? Is
that why Apple has switched to the Pentium? Only off brands use the AMD.
(It's cheaper)
"NoNoBadDog!" <no_@spam_verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "GreenieLeBrun" <GreenieLeBrun@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1126247617.915322.148550@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> Have a look at:-
>> http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20 [...] on-05.html
>> and for a comparison of a 3.2GHzP4 Vs a 3200+ Athlon (AMD) look at:-
>> http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030623/index.html
>>
> I could just as easily post reviews that say just the opposite...however
> AMD offers other advantages with its 64bit platform...Direct Connect
> Architecture, Hypertransport Bus, *Exclusive* L1 (data)/L2 cache, a CPU
> designed for 64 bit (as opposed to a reworked P4 with only EM64T).
>
> In everyday use, in the real world, AMD CPUs are faster due to a
> combination of the processor and the architecture that supports it.
>
> FWIW, you can find reviews on tomshardware that rate AMD CPUs better than
> Intel, and others that rate Intel CPUs better than AMD. I guess it
> depends on what kind of mood he is on a particular day.
>
> Smart money is on AMD.
>
> Bobby
>
>

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Kids....this is what happens when you use drugs! (See post by "Unknown" ).

Bobby

"Unknown" <Unknown@Somewhere.Kom> wrote in message
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> Smart money on AMD?????? Is that why the Pentium or Intel has about 75% of
> the market?. Is that why all the big PC manufacturers use the Pentium? Is
> that why Apple has switched to the Pentium? Only off brands use the AMD.
> (It's cheaper)
> "NoNoBadDog!" <no_@spam_verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:%23DlHriStFHA.2624@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "GreenieLeBrun" <GreenieLeBrun@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1126247617.915322.148550@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>> Have a look at:-
>>> http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20 [...] on-05.html
>>> and for a comparison of a 3.2GHzP4 Vs a 3200+ Athlon (AMD) look at:-
>>> http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030623/index.html
>>>
>> I could just as easily post reviews that say just the opposite...however
>> AMD offers other advantages with its 64bit platform...Direct Connect
>> Architecture, Hypertransport Bus, *Exclusive* L1 (data)/L2 cache, a CPU
>> designed for 64 bit (as opposed to a reworked P4 with only EM64T).
>>
>> In everyday use, in the real world, AMD CPUs are faster due to a
>> combination of the processor and the architecture that supports it.
>>
>> FWIW, you can find reviews on tomshardware that rate AMD CPUs better than
>> Intel, and others that rate Intel CPUs better than AMD. I guess it
>> depends on what kind of mood he is on a particular day.
>>
>> Smart money is on AMD.
>>
>> Bobby
>>
>>
>
>

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I already have a new computer with Pentium 4. It was only a question for
information. Your answer explained it quite well. Thank you.

Wull
"Robert Moir" <robspamtrap+msnews@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Wull wrote:
>> Can someone explain the difference between the two chips and which is
>> better, if one is better?
>
> Intel's "Celeron" class processors are a cut down version of Intel's
> "Pentium" class processors. The Celerons typically run at a slower bus
> speed (broadly speaking, the speed the processor talks to the rest of the
> computer) and have less onboard "cache" memory (again very broadly, the
> more of this memory a processor has, the faster it can process and turn
> around data once it has it).
>
> As for which one is better that depends what you mean, the Pentium class
> will perform faster than the Celeron class even the processors are running
> at the same "clock" speed. Celerons however are cheaper to buy (and I
> suspect but don't have figures to hand, cheaper to run).
>
> So a Pentium class chip is better than the equivilant Celeron class chip
> *IF* you will use that extra power; a computer that just sits on a desk in
> an office and does nothing more than run very basic office tasks will not
> need any more computing power than the Celeron brings to the table, so
> buying a Pentium processor for that job may be a waste of money...
>
> You should also consider AMD's range of chips; without getting into the
> holy war about which company makes the better processors, I'll just say
> that the AMD Athlon class is AMD's mainstream processor line pitched at
> the same level as the Pentium, and the Sempron is a budget processor
> pitched at the same level as the Celeron.
>
> --
> --
> Rob Moir
> Website - http://www.robertmoir.co.uk
> Virtual PC 2004 FAQ -
> http://www.robertmoir.co.uk/win/VirtualPC2004FAQ.html
> Kazaa - Software update services for your Viruses and Spyware.
>

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What are you an AMD employee? Give facts.
"NoNoBadDog!" <no_@spam_verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Kids....this is what happens when you use drugs! (See post by "Unknown" ).
>
> Bobby
>
> "Unknown" <Unknown@Somewhere.Kom> wrote in message
> news:zdnUe.1643$mj1.59@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
>> Smart money on AMD?????? Is that why the Pentium or Intel has about 75%
>> of the market?. Is that why all the big PC manufacturers use the Pentium?
>> Is that why Apple has switched to the Pentium? Only off brands use the
>> AMD. (It's cheaper)
>> "NoNoBadDog!" <no_@spam_verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:%23DlHriStFHA.2624@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "GreenieLeBrun" <GreenieLeBrun@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1126247617.915322.148550@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Have a look at:-
>>>> http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20 [...] on-05.html
>>>> and for a comparison of a 3.2GHzP4 Vs a 3200+ Athlon (AMD) look at:-
>>>> http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030623/index.html
>>>>
>>> I could just as easily post reviews that say just the opposite...however
>>> AMD offers other advantages with its 64bit platform...Direct Connect
>>> Architecture, Hypertransport Bus, *Exclusive* L1 (data)/L2 cache, a CPU
>>> designed for 64 bit (as opposed to a reworked P4 with only EM64T).
>>>
>>> In everyday use, in the real world, AMD CPUs are faster due to a
>>> combination of the processor and the architecture that supports it.
>>>
>>> FWIW, you can find reviews on tomshardware that rate AMD CPUs better
>>> than Intel, and others that rate Intel CPUs better than AMD. I guess it
>>> depends on what kind of mood he is on a particular day.
>>>
>>> Smart money is on AMD.
>>>
>>> Bobby
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

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A wise choice you'll eventually discover.
"Wull" <wmailey@gt.rr.com> wrote in message
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>I already have a new computer with Pentium 4. It was only a question for
>information. Your answer explained it quite well. Thank you.
>
> Wull
> "Robert Moir" <robspamtrap+msnews@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uXl7SbYtFHA.2948@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Wull wrote:
>>> Can someone explain the difference between the two chips and which is
>>> better, if one is better?
>>
>> Intel's "Celeron" class processors are a cut down version of Intel's
>> "Pentium" class processors. The Celerons typically run at a slower bus
>> speed (broadly speaking, the speed the processor talks to the rest of the
>> computer) and have less onboard "cache" memory (again very broadly, the
>> more of this memory a processor has, the faster it can process and turn
>> around data once it has it).
>>
>> As for which one is better that depends what you mean, the Pentium class
>> will perform faster than the Celeron class even the processors are
>> running at the same "clock" speed. Celerons however are cheaper to buy
>> (and I suspect but don't have figures to hand, cheaper to run).
>>
>> So a Pentium class chip is better than the equivilant Celeron class chip
>> *IF* you will use that extra power; a computer that just sits on a desk
>> in an office and does nothing more than run very basic office tasks will
>> not need any more computing power than the Celeron brings to the table,
>> so buying a Pentium processor for that job may be a waste of money...
>>
>> You should also consider AMD's range of chips; without getting into the
>> holy war about which company makes the better processors, I'll just say
>> that the AMD Athlon class is AMD's mainstream processor line pitched at
>> the same level as the Pentium, and the Sempron is a budget processor
>> pitched at the same level as the Celeron.
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Rob Moir
>> Website - http://www.robertmoir.co.uk
>> Virtual PC 2004 FAQ -
>> http://www.robertmoir.co.uk/win/VirtualPC2004FAQ.html
>> Kazaa - Software update services for your Viruses and Spyware.
>>
>
>
>

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You have managed with a single post to display both your arrogance and your
ignorance.

"only off brands use the AMD" ???

Are you calling the following brands "off":

HP
Compaq
Gateway
Emachines
Averatec
Acer
Alienware
ABS
Cyberpower
Monarch


There are many others...

I hope no one listens to you for advice. If you believe what you posted,
then you are truly too uneducated to own a PC, much less give advice to
anyone.

Welcome to the killfile...hope you like it in there with all the other
ignorant street trash that gets put there.

Bobby

"Unknown" <Unknown@Somewhere.Kom> wrote in message
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> What are you an AMD employee? Give facts.
> "NoNoBadDog!" <no_@spam_verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:uePFjiYtFHA.2912@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Kids....this is what happens when you use drugs! (See post by
>> "Unknown" ).
>>
>> Bobby
>>
>> "Unknown" <Unknown@Somewhere.Kom> wrote in message
>> news:zdnUe.1643$mj1.59@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
>>> Smart money on AMD?????? Is that why the Pentium or Intel has about 75%
>>> of the market?. Is that why all the big PC manufacturers use the
>>> Pentium? Is that why Apple has switched to the Pentium? Only off brands
>>> use the AMD. (It's cheaper)
>>> "NoNoBadDog!" <no_@spam_verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:%23DlHriStFHA.2624@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "GreenieLeBrun" <GreenieLeBrun@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1126247617.915322.148550@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> Have a look at:-
>>>>> http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20 [...] on-05.html
>>>>> and for a comparison of a 3.2GHzP4 Vs a 3200+ Athlon (AMD) look at:-
>>>>> http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030623/index.html
>>>>>
>>>> I could just as easily post reviews that say just the
>>>> opposite...however AMD offers other advantages with its 64bit
>>>> platform...Direct Connect Architecture, Hypertransport Bus, *Exclusive*
>>>> L1 (data)/L2 cache, a CPU designed for 64 bit (as opposed to a reworked
>>>> P4 with only EM64T).
>>>>
>>>> In everyday use, in the real world, AMD CPUs are faster due to a
>>>> combination of the processor and the architecture that supports it.
>>>>
>>>> FWIW, you can find reviews on tomshardware that rate AMD CPUs better
>>>> than Intel, and others that rate Intel CPUs better than AMD. I guess
>>>> it depends on what kind of mood he is on a particular day.
>>>>
>>>> Smart money is on AMD.
>>>>
>>>> Bobby
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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intel pentium and celeron are almost similar. Intel pentium p4 has 512kb
cache memory inside its chip while the celeron has 256kb cache memory only,
so intel pentium 4 is faster than intel celeron. Intel P4 is best when
browsing the net and when you are in video editing

celeron was made to match the low cost of amd chips....

its better to use P4 than celeron if you have enough money....

"Wull" wrote:

> Can someone explain the difference between the two chips and which is
> better, if one is better?
>
> TIA
> Wull
>
>
>

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plonk!

"NoNoBadDog!" <no_@spam_verizon.net> wrote in message
news:%23QDf4dztFHA.664@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
: You have managed with a single post to display both your
arrogance and your
: ignorance.
:
: "only off brands use the AMD" ???
:
: Are you calling the following brands "off":
:
: HP
: Compaq
: Gateway
: Emachines
: Averatec
: Acer
: Alienware
: ABS
: Cyberpower
: Monarch
:
:
: There are many others...
:
: I hope no one listens to you for advice. If you believe what
you posted,
: then you are truly too uneducated to own a PC, much less give
advice to
: anyone.
:
: Welcome to the killfile...hope you like it in there with all
the other
: ignorant street trash that gets put there.
:
: Bobby
:
: "Unknown" <Unknown@Somewhere.Kom> wrote in message
: news:tbZUe.42$gK.10@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
: > What are you an AMD employee? Give facts.
: > "NoNoBadDog!" <no_@spam_verizon.net> wrote in message
: > news:uePFjiYtFHA.2912@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
: >> Kids....this is what happens when you use drugs! (See post
by
: >> "Unknown" ).
: >>
: >> Bobby
: >>
: >> "Unknown" <Unknown@Somewhere.Kom> wrote in message
: >> news:zdnUe.1643$mj1.59@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
: >>> Smart money on AMD?????? Is that why the Pentium or Intel
has about 75%
: >>> of the market?. Is that why all the big PC manufacturers
use the
: >>> Pentium? Is that why Apple has switched to the Pentium?
Only off brands
: >>> use the AMD. (It's cheaper)
: >>> "NoNoBadDog!" <no_@spam_verizon.net> wrote in message
: >>> news:%23DlHriStFHA.2624@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
: >>>>
: >>>> "GreenieLeBrun" <GreenieLeBrun@hotmail.com> wrote in
message
: >>>>
news:1126247617.915322.148550@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
: >>>>> Have a look at:-
: >>>>>
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20 [...] on-05.html
: >>>>> and for a comparison of a 3.2GHzP4 Vs a 3200+ Athlon
(AMD) look at:-
: >>>>> http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030623/index.html
: >>>>>
: >>>> I could just as easily post reviews that say just the
: >>>> opposite...however AMD offers other advantages with its
64bit
: >>>> platform...Direct Connect Architecture, Hypertransport
Bus, *Exclusive*
: >>>> L1 (data)/L2 cache, a CPU designed for 64 bit (as opposed
to a reworked
: >>>> P4 with only EM64T).
: >>>>
: >>>> In everyday use, in the real world, AMD CPUs are faster
due to a
: >>>> combination of the processor and the architecture that
supports it.
: >>>>
: >>>> FWIW, you can find reviews on tomshardware that rate AMD
CPUs better
: >>>> than Intel, and others that rate Intel CPUs better than
AMD. I guess
: >>>> it depends on what kind of mood he is on a particular day.
: >>>>
: >>>> Smart money is on AMD.
: >>>>
: >>>> Bobby
: >>>>
: >>>>
: >>>
: >>>
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >
: >
:
:

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Who are you trying to impress?
"NoNoBadDog!" <no_@spam_verizon.net> wrote in message
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> You have managed with a single post to display both your arrogance and
> your ignorance.
>
> "only off brands use the AMD" ???
>
> Are you calling the following brands "off":
>
> HP
> Compaq
> Gateway
> Emachines
> Averatec
> Acer
> Alienware
> ABS
> Cyberpower
> Monarch