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will downloading and installing windows 64bit professional erase my hardrive
completley or will it just replace my current OS, windows home xp?
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"cLOWNFETUS" <cLOWNFETUS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> will downloading and installing windows 64bit professional erase my
> hardrive
> completley or will it just replace my current OS, windows home xp?
> --
> SADssd

Firstly, you don't download any Windows operating system (unless you have a
MSDN subscription, which can be a lot of money) legally. Two, if your system
runs the current 32bit setup, the 64 will not work, as you need a specific
system setup with a 64bit processor to run XP Pro 64 bit, and the only chip
out there that does this currently is the Itanium, by Intel.

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"Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
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>
> "cLOWNFETUS" <cLOWNFETUS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E066715F-59FD-4705-ACB4-C582AB4FD944@microsoft.com...
>> will downloading and installing windows 64bit professional erase my
>> hardrive
>> completley or will it just replace my current OS, windows home xp?
>> --
>> SADssd
>
> Firstly, you don't download any Windows operating system (unless you have
> a MSDN subscription, which can be a lot of money) legally. Two, if your
> system runs the current 32bit setup, the 64 will not work, as you need a
> specific system setup with a 64bit processor to run XP Pro 64 bit, and the
> only chip out there that does this currently is the Itanium, by Intel.
>This is completely *WRONG*!!!!

In order to run Windows XP Professional x64 Edition or Windows Server 2003
64 bit Edition, you need a compatible 64 bit processor. Compatible
processors are the AMD64 processor family, AMD64 FX processors, the recently
introduced Intel EM64T processor, Intel XEON, or AMD Opteron.

The Itaniums *WILL NOT* run either Windows XP Professional x64 Edition or
Windows Server 2003 64 bit Edition. It will only run software based upon
the IA-86 Kernel. The other processors listed above are designed to run
86-x64 based code, which is what Windows XP Professional x64 Edition or
Windows Server 2003 64 bit Edition are based on.

If you are going to post answers in these newsgroups, you need to at least
have a clue as to what you are talking about. With your limited knowledge,
you shouldn't even be posting at all.

Bobby

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i have a 64bit AMD mobile, and the beta 64bit windows is currently free to
download ~543mb

"Tom" wrote:

>
> "cLOWNFETUS" <cLOWNFETUS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E066715F-59FD-4705-ACB4-C582AB4FD944@microsoft.com...
> > will downloading and installing windows 64bit professional erase my
> > hardrive
> > completley or will it just replace my current OS, windows home xp?
> > --
> > SADssd
>
> Firstly, you don't download any Windows operating system (unless you have a
> MSDN subscription, which can be a lot of money) legally. Two, if your system
> runs the current 32bit setup, the 64 will not work, as you need a specific
> system setup with a 64bit processor to run XP Pro 64 bit, and the only chip
> out there that does this currently is the Itanium, by Intel.
>
>
>

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Downloading won't erase anything, installing a new operating system would.

If you are thinking of downloading the beta version of XP Pro 64, don't
bother. It is out of beta any day now and releasing to OEM for production.
For now it appears that it will only be available for new machines.

You cannot upgrade your present system to 64 bit Windows, even if you are
running a 64-cpu already, because there is no way to upgrade 32-bit Windows
to 64-bit Windows. You can only do a clean install.

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"cLOWNFETUS" <cLOWNFETUS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> will downloading and installing windows 64bit professional erase my
> hardrive
> completley or will it just replace my current OS, windows home xp?
> --
> SADssd

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You should have said so in the first place. You still cannot upgrade your
present Windows installation with the beta. I do not know whether you can
multiboot 32-bit and 64-bit versions. The concern I would have is that the
beta time-bombs in six months and it is not now clear how you would obtain a
retail edition since, as far as I know, only the OEM version is releasing
next month.

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"cLOWNFETUS" <cLOWNFETUS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>i have a 64bit AMD mobile, and the beta 64bit windows is currently free to
> download ~543mb
>
> "Tom" wrote:
>
>>
>> "cLOWNFETUS" <cLOWNFETUS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:E066715F-59FD-4705-ACB4-C582AB4FD944@microsoft.com...
>> > will downloading and installing windows 64bit professional erase my
>> > hardrive
>> > completley or will it just replace my current OS, windows home xp?
>> > --
>> > SADssd
>>
>> Firstly, you don't download any Windows operating system (unless you have
>> a
>> MSDN subscription, which can be a lot of money) legally. Two, if your
>> system
>> runs the current 32bit setup, the 64 will not work, as you need a
>> specific
>> system setup with a 64bit processor to run XP Pro 64 bit, and the only
>> chip
>> out there that does this currently is the Itanium, by Intel.
>>
>>
>>

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In news:e5A7kKcMFHA.2468@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl,
Colin Barnhorst <colinbarharst(nojunk)@msn.com> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

> Downloading won't erase anything, installing a new operating system
> would.
> If you are thinking of downloading the beta version of XP Pro 64,
> don't bother. It is out of beta any day now and releasing to OEM for
> production. For now it appears that it will only be available for new
> machines.
> You cannot upgrade your present system to 64 bit Windows, even if you
> are running a 64-cpu already, because there is no way to upgrade
> 32-bit Windows to 64-bit Windows. You can only do a clean install.
>
>> will downloading and installing windows 64bit professional erase my
>> hardrive
>> completley or will it just replace my current OS, windows home xp?
>> --
>> SADssd

Definately don't bother. Microsoft is going to swap 32 bit for 64 bit for
SOME people:

http://www.pcworld.com/resource/ar [...] RSS,00.asp

Please note that this boarders on just adding to the confusion as it's ONLY
for 2k3 and XP Pro... *clicks link to check that actually*

Err, not a good link at all. Good thing I clicked on it...

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=21760

Hardly can be considered fact...

Anyhow it's worth looking into and waiting to see what REALLY is the case.

To be honest I have tried the 64 bit beta and didn't notice one iota of
performance difference... Not a single bit of difference to be completely
frank but I'm an AMD man and 32 bit compatability is built right in without
problems in most cases unless you want to hear the sob store about ME and
drivers...

Galen
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Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side.

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You can not upgrade Windows XP Home or Pro with 64 bit.

Furthermore since the 64 bit will be OEM only once released, you will not be
able to upgrade with that either.
Clean Install is the only option, everything previous will be gone.

For more information, you should ask your questions in the 64 bit
newsgroups:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsse [...] pport.mspx

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"cLOWNFETUS" <cLOWNFETUS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> will downloading and installing windows 64bit professional erase my
> hardrive
> completley or will it just replace my current OS, windows home xp?
> --
> SADssd

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cLOWNFETUS wrote:
> will downloading and installing windows 64bit professional erase my hardrive
> completley or will it just replace my current OS, windows home xp?


As the WinXPx64 is designed to be released only as an OEM product, it
is designed to perform only a clean installation. You have the choice
of either wiping the hard drive and running the beta OS by itself, or of
creating a dual-boot configuration between WinXP Home and WinXPx64.
WinXPx64 cannot be used to upgrade WinXP Home.

Do you already have an AMD CPU capable of supporting WinXPx64? Do you
have an empty partition on which to install it, if you select the
dual-boot option? Have you ensured that you have WinXPx64-compatible
device drivers for all of your hardware components?


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Tom wrote:

>
>
> Firstly, you don't download any Windows operating system (unless you have a
> MSDN subscription, which can be a lot of money) legally.


Incorrect.

Windows XP Professional x64 Edition Release Candidate 2 Customer Preview
Program
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp [...] grade.mspx


> Two, if your system
> runs the current 32bit setup, the 64 will not work, as you need a specific
> system setup with a 64bit processor to run XP Pro 64 bit,


True.


> and the only chip
> out there that does this currently is the Itanium, by Intel.
>

Also incorrect. Never heard of AMD?
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processor [...] dir=GIHM01



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"Bruce Chambers" <bruce_a_chambers@h0tmail.com> wrote in message
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> Tom wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Firstly, you don't download any Windows operating system (unless you have
>> a MSDN subscription, which can be a lot of money) legally.
>
>
> Incorrect.
>
> Windows XP Professional x64 Edition Release Candidate 2 Customer Preview
> Program
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp [...] grade.mspx
>
>
>> Two, if your system runs the current 32bit setup, the 64 will not work,
>> as you need a specific system setup with a 64bit processor to run XP Pro
>> 64 bit,
>
>
> True.
>
>
>> and the only chip out there that does this currently is the Itanium, by
>> Intel.
>
> Also incorrect. Never heard of AMD?
> http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processor [...] dir=GIHM01
>
>
>

As you don't read (with the others) I specified what the OP asked about,
that being XP Pro 64 bit, not the x64, of which I am aware of. As I am sure
you know, there was a sold version speicically made for ONLY 64bit Itanium
chips. If you had read the posts in this thread, you would have seen that.
The OP did not specify x64, and downloading can mean a lot of things.

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Tom wrote:

>
> As you don't read (with the others) I specified what the OP asked about,
> that being XP Pro 64 bit, not the x64, of which I am aware of. As I am sure
> you know, there was a sold version speicically made for ONLY 64bit Itanium
> chips. If you had read the posts in this thread, you would have seen that.
> The OP did not specify x64, and downloading can mean a lot of things.
>
>

Why not just admit that you "shot from the lip," and were nearly
completely wrong, rather than try to change the subject to an argument
over semantics? You're only making yourself look more foolish by not
admitting the mistake and moving on.


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"Bruce Chambers" <bruce_a_chambers@h0tmail.com> wrote in message
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> Tom wrote:
>
>>
>> As you don't read (with the others) I specified what the OP asked about,
>> that being XP Pro 64 bit, not the x64, of which I am aware of. As I am
>> sure you know, there was a sold version speicically made for ONLY 64bit
>> Itanium chips. If you had read the posts in this thread, you would have
>> seen that. The OP did not specify x64, and downloading can mean a lot of
>> things.
>
> Why not just admit that you "shot from the lip," and were nearly
> completely wrong, rather than try to change the subject to an argument
> over semantics? You're only making yourself look more foolish by not
> admitting the mistake and moving on.

LOL, Ok, Bruce was/is there a version of XP pro 64bit that was specifically,
and ONLY 64 bit, released a few years back? Did I post the links to that?
(Yes I did, and you didn't comment). It wasn't semantics, I related to the
OP exactly what he claimed he was trying to use, nothing more. If you cannot
answer striaght up, then don't bother answering, I already gave what I
thought the OP wanted.

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No, not so, there are 'several" Win XP 64 bit motherborads out there for AMD
Win 64 bit processors, ........

"Tom" wrote:

>
> "cLOWNFETUS" <cLOWNFETUS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E066715F-59FD-4705-ACB4-C582AB4FD944@microsoft.com...
> > will downloading and installing windows 64bit professional erase my
> > hardrive
> > completley or will it just replace my current OS, windows home xp?
> > --
> > SADssd
>
> Firstly, you don't download any Windows operating system (unless you have a
> MSDN subscription, which can be a lot of money) legally. Two, if your system
> runs the current 32bit setup, the 64 will not work, as you need a specific
> system setup with a 64bit processor to run XP Pro 64 bit, and the only chip
> out there that does this currently is the Itanium, by Intel.
>
>
>

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Good answer Bruce, I am glad a cooler head finally answered CF's question
with a kinder voice......ojrn1954

"Bruce Chambers" wrote:

> cLOWNFETUS wrote:
> > will downloading and installing windows 64bit professional erase my hardrive
> > completley or will it just replace my current OS, windows home xp?
>
>
> As the WinXPx64 is designed to be released only as an OEM product, it
> is designed to perform only a clean installation. You have the choice
> of either wiping the hard drive and running the beta OS by itself, or of
> creating a dual-boot configuration between WinXP Home and WinXPx64.
> WinXPx64 cannot be used to upgrade WinXP Home.
>
> Do you already have an AMD CPU capable of supporting WinXPx64? Do you
> have an empty partition on which to install it, if you select the
> dual-boot option? Have you ensured that you have WinXPx64-compatible
> device drivers for all of your hardware components?
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
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>
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> both at once. - RAH
>

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Hi guyz

I have a qustion, i just ordered parts to build myself a gaming computer,
and i also purchased Windows XP pro x64, and when i try to install it on my
new pc, i get an error message that says that this software cannot be
installed on this computer.

I have an NCCH-DL Dual Intel Xeon 800FSB mother board, and a Xeon[tm]
3.06GHZ, 2 512mb ram, how can i find out what is causing the problem?

I would greatly appreciate the help

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Does the computer you are building contain a 64bit processor? If not then
that is the reason. Windows XP 64 bit won't run on 32 bit hardware.

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"juggernaut" <juggernaut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi guyz
>
> I have a qustion, i just ordered parts to build myself a gaming computer,
> and i also purchased Windows XP pro x64, and when i try to install it on
> my
> new pc, i get an error message that says that this software cannot be
> installed on this computer.
>
> I have an NCCH-DL Dual Intel Xeon 800FSB mother board, and a Xeon[tm]
> 3.06GHZ, 2 512mb ram, how can i find out what is causing the problem?
>
> I would greatly appreciate the help

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juggernaut wrote:
> I have a qustion, i just ordered parts to build myself a gaming
> computer, and i also purchased Windows XP pro x64, and when i try to
> install it on my new pc, i get an error message that says that this
> software cannot be installed on this computer.
>
> I have an NCCH-DL Dual Intel Xeon 800FSB mother board, and a Xeon[tm]
> 3.06GHZ, 2 512mb ram, how can i find out what is causing the problem?
>
> I would greatly appreciate the help

Hmm.. Let's see..
You are trying to install a 64bit Operating System on a 32bit hardware
system.

Guess that settles that one. =)

(Having a dual 32bit based system does not make it a 64bit system, heh.)

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