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Microsoft: Hardcore Kinect Games in 18 Months

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Core Xbox 360 gamers may not see non-causal Kinect titles for another 18 months.

Tuesday Microsoft reassured Xbox 360 gamers that hardcore titles would arrive for Kinect within 18 months.

The news came after the company revealed the official pricing of the motion-sensing controller along with pricing for a Kinect/4GB Arcade bundle (story). While the pricing is right where we expected, the overall software support for the device has left core owners wondering if Microsoft is shifting its focus towards the casual gamer.

"Certainly over the launch phase and this Christmas in particular I think you'll see very much pure Kinect for 360 experiences that will appeal to the broad young/older/female/family audiences I described earlier," admitted Xbox EMEA boss Chris Lewis in an interview. "I'll say again, at the risk of sounding like a cracked record, that doesn't in any way, shape or form represent us stepping away from the core."

He said that Microsoft spent a "good solid chunk of time" showcasing games at E3 2010 such as Halo: Reach, Gears of War 3 and Fable 3 so that the overall presentation didn't seem focused on Kinect and casual gamers. He also added that more "core" games will be coming soon from Microsoft and third-party partners.

That's fine and dandy, but what about core games for Kinect? He said that they would arrive if they make sense--if Kinect can complement what might ostensibly be a controller-based experience with gestures, voice and physical movement.

"Again, without compromising on the experience, making sure it's incremental and generally advantageous to the experience, then you'll see those types of experiences coming over time," he said. "And therefore I think all of the different types of gaming experiences you describe will become available over the coming 18 months or so."

With that said, core Xbox 360 gamers may not flock to Kinect this holiday season as Microsoft expected until meatier titles hit the shelves. Perhaps the next holiday season (2011) then?

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    halls , July 21, 2010 10:36 PM
    I think in this context, "hardcore" needs to be replaced with "fun for more than 15 minutes".
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    Boxa786 , July 21, 2010 10:24 PM
    I can see this really kicking off if they manage to first get all the kiddy titles out just before xmas.

    Plans would be to release kinext now, build a hype, then release all the xmas titles in time for xmas. This could be the wii killer.
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    halls , July 21, 2010 10:36 PM
    I think in this context, "hardcore" needs to be replaced with "fun for more than 15 minutes".
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    dragonsqrrl , July 21, 2010 10:43 PM
    Does he mean 18 months from now, or 18 months from the Kinect release date? Either way that's going to be around the first quarter of 2012, and it's not going to leave much time before the next generation consoles start picking up steam. Given these games will be targeting the "hardcore" crowd, it may be too late for the XBox360 Kinect strategy to really work for this demographic.
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    lauxenburg , July 21, 2010 10:52 PM
    Boxa786I can see this really kicking off if they manage to first get all the kiddy titles out just before xmas. Plans would be to release kinext now, build a hype, then release all the xmas titles in time for xmas. This could be the wii killer.


    Unless Microsoft manages to get hold of rights for Mario, the Wii will not be killed.
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    RADIO_ACTIVE , July 21, 2010 11:07 PM
    I would think that the next gen consoles would be out by then... Maybe the new consoles will use it also.
    What do I care, I am a PC gamer!
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    vant , July 21, 2010 11:10 PM
    Sounds like a plan for failure. They had years to get developers on board.
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    festerovic , July 21, 2010 11:59 PM
    I didn't buy a wee because I don't want to move around while playing games. What makes you think I want to move around while playing your console, M$?

    Please fail and move along.
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    wing2010 , July 22, 2010 12:01 AM
    In another word, you buy the kinect right now but have to wait at least 18 months to "fully" utilize it...
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    jimslaid2 , July 22, 2010 12:40 AM
    I'm not the only one who thinks kinect is super lame. So stupid. I just don't get why Microsoft is praising it as if kinect is gonna be the next best gaming experience. I'm not gonna buy one until it proves itself as something other than casual.
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    BulkZerker , July 22, 2010 12:45 AM
    cyprodNEWS FLASH!This just in: You are not the only person on earth! Contrary to your beliefs, you are not the center of the universe. The world does not cease to function just because you don't see it fit to continue to function. Just because you will not buy something does not mean it's a failure or will be a failure. It will fail and move along if not enough people buy it, not because one movement averse individual refuses to purchase it.You may now continue with your self absorbed existance.


    He shares the same views as 90% of the current 360 owners. So umless ms hopes to double the ownership of the 360 this winter, and get about 10% of the totaal ownership to buy aa kinect it will be a total failure, not just a hard fail. I can't see more than maybe 100k kinects being sold purley because the adverage 360 ownerbeing the sole user, and also above the age of 10 plays a big role in this too.
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    alextheblue , July 22, 2010 1:00 AM
    At least that means developers aren't abandoning traditional control schemes any time soon, at least for hardcore games. You should use motion controls where it makes sense, instead of trying to fudge motion controls in for EVERYTHING, like some Wii titles.

    Augmenting a controller with voice commands and gestures might not be a bad idea though, for some titles. Especially if they're optional (you can still do it with the controller). I'd like it if I could choose the dialog options in ME by saying a brief phrase aloud, again, optional.
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    bangtime , July 22, 2010 1:01 AM
    what's the problem with kinect? i think it's pimp to control the xbox with jedi gestures and voice commands. I do a lot of netflix and watch a lot of movies from my computer via xbox with windows media player.
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    Anonymous , July 22, 2010 1:41 AM
    You mean they'll still be making new stuff for xbox 360 18 months from now? God consoles suck! They are the worst thing ever for the gaming industry... everything gets held back.
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    captaincharisma , July 22, 2010 2:35 AM
    oh yea that what hardcore gamers want. to be playing halo by pointing there fingers at a TV like an 8 year old LOL
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    welshmousepk , July 22, 2010 2:42 AM
    BulkZerkerHe shares the same views as 90% of the current 360 owners. So umless ms hopes to double the ownership of the 360 this winter, and get about 10% of the totaal ownership to buy aa kinect it will be a total failure, not just a hard fail. I can't see more than maybe 100k kinects being sold purley because the adverage 360 ownerbeing the sole user, and also above the age of 10 plays a big role in this too.


    no, he shares his view with the hardcore crowd. the kind of gamers that post on websites like these. the casual gamers are a massive portion of the demographic. they simply dont come to websites to post their opinions.

    if you dont want it, dont buy it. but something tells me it will be a runaway success for MS. Its not aimed at you, its aimed at the wii gamers who have outgrown the old hardware, and want something deeper. but who still are not 'hardcore' gamers.
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    Anonymous , July 22, 2010 2:53 AM
    Geez. It's really amazing to see so many haters. It's a new experience for crying out loud and YOU don't have to be interested in it...but maybe kids or your wife will. My wife is very interested to see what its going to bring. But then again she's the prime target for Wii fit and anything else that would family fun for the kids and her. She isn't interested in Kinect with a first person shooter. Oh, but wait...what if you could play civilization and move the avatars with your hands. Or a real time strategy game? Hmm...how about play chess with your friend while streaming video to each other of each other? How about a virtual light saber duel in your respective living rooms, while seeing avatars of each other superimposed or totally virtualized?
    THINK a little deeper here and I bet you could all keep brainstorming some hot applications for this...I can think of at least 10 more.
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    Trialsking , July 22, 2010 3:14 AM
    Read between the lines: No new console for at least 18 months! 360 from 2005-2012 on the fantastic X1950 XT ATI card, yay for technology! Consoles are such a joke!
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    timbozero , July 22, 2010 3:32 AM
    As usual MS ripping off the UK and EU.

    Not charging what the product is sold for in the US but charging what they think people will pay :( 
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    Maxor127 , July 22, 2010 3:34 AM
    I think the type of "hardcore" experience people expect is impossible with Kinect, unless they start releasing some type of add-on controllers for it similar to the PS3 motion thing.

    You can't play non-casual games that require actual movement in a 3D space by standing in front of a camera. An analog stick is pretty much a necessity. I'm sure they could make it so you lean in a direction to move or something stupid, but it wouldn't be fun.
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    Maxor127 , July 22, 2010 3:41 AM
    Boxa786I can see this really kicking off if they manage to first get all the kiddy titles out just before xmas. Plans would be to release kinext now, build a hype, then release all the xmas titles in time for xmas. This could be the wii killer.

    I hope you work for Microsoft and aren't that insane to believe that. Unless you think 360 is going to double its sales number with this. Not to mention it's pretty much designed to only play casual games. It's a glorified EyeToy and will be just as popular or less popular than that was.
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