MSFT, Apple, HTC, Google, LG, Moto ALL Get Sued
Microsoft, Apple, HTC, Google, LG and Motorola have been slapped with a patent infringement lawsuit relating to wireless email.
If the name NTP sounds familiar, it's probably because the company sued RIM about ten years back and, after a lengthy legal battle, won a $612 million settlement from the Canadian smartphone company. That little legal melee was the result of RIM's infringement on wireless email patents owned by NTP. The United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia found that RIM had willfully infringed on NTP's patents and in the process, had cost the company about $30 million. Things went back and forth with appeals and the like for about five or six years until RIM and NTP settled the matter themselves.
Now, the smartphone market is a lot more than RIM these days, and with every Joe and Jane accessing wireless email, NTP has found reason to complain. The company this week filed suit against six major players in the smartphone market for patent infringement relating to wireless email.
Filed in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, the lawsuit involves some really huge names, so you can imagine how messy it's going to get. Engadget's Nilay Patel points out the fact that Apple and Microsoft are completely fine with cross licensing and cooperating in the patent space. Throw in Google, HTC, Motorola and LG and you've got a mighty fine legal battle on your hands.
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cmon, this will never fly. Everything will settle as the best case scenario.
Otherwise, it will be just thrown out as being a ridiculous case.
I see what you did there.
With that many lawyers going against them they dont really stand a chance. Im also curious how their patent is directly infringed on by a smart phone and not by someone on a laptop checking their email over wifi.
NTP is a Bleeping Patent troll.. Personally I think NTP stepped in it deep up to the nose with this lawsuit. The perfect analogy sounds a bit like this. "never bring a knife(NTP) to a gun fight(everyone else)" RIM didn't loose they where just tired of throwing money away and instead of continuing to take a loss they Settled.. they didn't say they did it but apparently NTP had enough evidence to prove they could have.... NTP is a Troll I hope Apple and Microsoft Join together and take a Page out of the Mafia book and takes them out back...and Bleeps them
People impeding progress....I feel like if intellectual property was equal or mutualistic we would of found the cure for aids/cancer/solved world hunger but alas legal system hold us back.
So if I access my email account, using my computer, which happens to have a wireless internet card, that's infringing, right? It would be "wireless email."
Sometimes the patent system is SO incredibly FUBAR'd I wonder what troglodytes must be issuing patents. Wasn't "the test" supposed to include the idea that it was "non-obvious"?
Tell me when appears that NTP is owned by Rambus.
this sounds like a lawsuit tournament! ... FINISH THEM!
now if apple would just let microsoft have multi-touch they could have a windows pad
I liked the Washington Post suggestions, the six of them should just collectively buy NTP and then dissolve the company and release the patents into public domain.
I think I should have become a corporate lawyer, nah, would not want to be a piece of scum slug.
"Technically" I'm infringing too, wireless internet, using my E-mail.
so this is how the company profits they just sit around and sue
so this is how the company profits they just sit around and sue
It takes real engineering to get congress to pass laws and regulations that favor patent trolls with software and business process patents. Credit where credit is due.
I see what you did there.
'Cause Tom, Dick, and Harry still use snail mail.
The patent goes back to the year 1991. The first text message for a cellular network was public in 1992. Sure, the patent is at the end of its life cycle, but if you can't prove someone else did it before that inventor.
Then he rightfully deserves the licensing fee. RIM was sued in 2001, as soon as verdict came out, they went ahead and sued HP, you can't say they just sitting there.
This is one of the worst patent trolls. Damn lucky with that submarine patent.
Tell me when appears that NTP is owned by Rambus.
I was about to say, who's suing them? Rambus?
I'll agree with the above comments.. They bit off way more than they can chew.. It has been proven that money is the deciding factor in legal battles, and with a list such as the one above, the tiny company will probably get slapped around this time. At the time, RIM was big, but not compared to its current self, much less Microsoft, Apple, Google + the others combined. Hell, they are virtually suing the entire cellular phone industry at this point, not to mention the fact that between MS and Google, they are suing the largest Software / Internet service providers on Earth. I suppose it comes down to if Balmer and google guys got lucky the night before as to how this will go down.
Smochina 07/10/2010 12:32 PM Hide -3+
"The fault is not at NTP but with us laws that allow every moron to register any stupid patent anyone can think off. Guess I'm going to file a patent registration for sitting while shiting, I'll sue everybody and totally own this planet. Aha!"
you've never been to the asian pacific i take it, they just stand over a hole. i hope that bathroom with the hole is not above you and centered over your ceiling fan.
can't wait to see whose going to countersue back or buy NPT outright in a hostile takeover.
Haha, reading the headline I was reminded of Rambus. XD
The fact that wireless email has been patented shows how utterly insane patent law has become. This type of litigation doesn't help the creators of ideas, producers of products, or consumers of products. It helps only the savvy patent purchasers and the lawyers who litigate on their behalf. What a sad state of affairs, a drain on the productive economy.
I can see the next bit of news being:
All members of the board of directors at NTP were found shot dead in their homes today...
Seriously I think they are pissing in too many peoples cornflakes here.
I'm normally one to complain about crappy patents, but this one might stick.
Rambus didn't invent SDRAM and its variants and NTP sure as hell didn't invent wireless e-mail. There is absolutely no proof to either of these claims. The fact that someone can patent someone else's invention is disturbing to say the least. NTP's claim is just as baseless as SCO's patent infringement claims against Linux.
It's not a patent on normal access of email through wireless, it's a patent on accessing email through a wireless system, and it solves the connectivity issue that would otherwise cause the battery to drain at a much faster rate. Not a terribly difficult problem to solve, but someone solved it first and patented it.
Sounded vaguely like that software encyclopedia suit and GIF redux; only difference is that the enc company was actually in retail and so is CompuServe being caught in the middle, their commercial interest took a hit; but this NTP is complete unknown.
I've heard this news before but I don't understand what exactly that company invented!? Where they the first to access their email through wifi and the patented the process of checking email from a coffee place?
We all know how this works, let companies design, manufacture & sell products, after a hiatus, sue them like crazy to get a little dosh.
Mercedes should sue all the car manufacturers for having a steering wheel. Maybe Conestoga should sue all of them for having four wheels (or maybe for having a ribbed convertible top). They are up against some very big foes here and if this patent is somehow valid, then one of these big boys will just hostile take over the company (especially Apple) with baseball balls and Uzi's. Wagons are back baby, everyone get their horses shoed and ready!
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