Fail game is fail.

ha ha thats funny game retailers are becoming more impatient then the kids that play the games, or the adults for that matter can't wait for this one MW was great on xbox live hopefully this one lives up to the hype surrounding it, after all it is just a game

If I were in charge I would do the same thing so my company wouldn't end up with a bunch of copies stuck on the shelf due to other retailers early release.

Oh, I didn't realize hell froze over... the real street date for a lot of us Boycotters!

lol i'm going to laugh even harder if Microsoft doesn't get the memo and hits them with a console ban for playing before street date.

This comment is bursting at the seems with WIN!

fuck gamestop and fuck activision. i hope they sue eachother

Yeah, Activision can suck a big hard one.. Who takes out Dedicated servers for FPS games and then tells us that they don't give a shit.. I hope they lose a shitload of money on this release...

Boycott so this isn't news to me. Screw consoles too the kiddies can have this one, I'm waiting on bad company 2 for PC you know the game that has dedicated servers put out by a real game company(s) Dice and EA games get my money.

GameStop can burn in hell for all I care. I hope they get sued and lose. They are the biggest f'ing scam out there when it comes to games.

I stopped going there when:
I go to trade in Sacred 2 and they offer only $17 WITH my card discount and then I walk over to the shelf and the games sells for 59.99 new 54.99 used. 1/3 of the fracking price their gonna turn around and sell it for??? Then they had a trade in 4 get $20 extra but 3 of the 4 games I take in they say "dont qualify". I actually told them to go fuck off and instead of spending $60 there on Batman Arkham Asylum I sold Sacred 2 on ebay for $32 and bought Batman from Amazon for $49 no tax free shipping.

Ill never give gamestop another dime of my money.

And for Activision......you can f_ck off too. Blatantly screwing pc gamers and then publicly stating you dont give a sh_t. Ill never buy another one of your games either.

F_ckers!!!

Companies don't care about PCs anymore there is enough idiots to buy there half assed console games to make them happy. The gaming market is turning to a piece of crap, just same franchises over and over again and i swear with less and less content and supposedly New DLC content which is probably just Held back content to take more money.. Then of course game stops stupid trade in programs Gimmick pre-order BS.. of course there is exceptions out there, def some good innovative games but that is becoming less and less...

Im also sick and tired of console games running like crap, HOW IS A GAME GOLD when there is frame rate issues? broken network play ect. AT LEASED On a PC GAME YOU CAN FREAKING adjust the damn graphics.. I liked it better when PC and consoles were there own things..

Somebody's lying..

I hadn't even heard of this game until your report like.. yesterday.

I'm gonna boycott it on principle though.

I just love how the games just sit back in the back rooms of the game stores for days sometimes weeks and they just claim the game is still in production or fixing bugs ect.. Pays to have a GF that is a manager at gamestop. Know all freaking BS they do..

They choose specific dates because someone who knows someone who knows someone who heard that if they release it this day, it will be best for sales.

Regardless, I can't imagine this game selling well among the PC crowd, the console crowd, sure. But that is because they don't know any better.

The game's a console port at best. Should have just been an expansion, but we get a lot of companies farming cash cows. MW2 and LFD2 should have both been expansions.

Activision is shit.

to all the pc gamers out there.. I play pc games and xbox live... dedicated servers are what made cod4 on pc... but thats it, I'd much rather just jump in and play with my buds on xbox live.
Yes pc's are more powerful, but not if you have a bump pc (IF you have the $$$$ to spend on a very good pc then great)but most poeple don't. Xbox live is alot easier to "get around" and you don't have to worry about your pc lagging with console gaming.. or crashing, ETC ETC ETC.
Yes I love pc gaming, but I do not trash console gamers because they are mainly the same thing... there playing the same game!
Oh and modding is gay... except for zombie mods on pc. But thats not what the game was intended for. I mean aim bots and all that sh** COME ON horrible!!!
And if you do not like the no dedicated server thing... get over it... its a great game have played it!
And bad company 2 will be as crappy as the first...
CoD franchise FTW for war games... THE END
So stop bit**ing about dedicated servers... Not everyone is going to be happy and thats it... No jugger, no private chat, no dedicated servers, what else can everyone complain about!!

Dice is amazing they havn't put out a bad game yet, battlefield 1942 WIN, battlefield vietnam WIN, battlefield 2 WIN, battlefield 2142 WIN!

Um bad company was horrible... and I am a pc gamer, bad company sucked major...

Always, always, always, always, get things in writing. If Activision says it's okay to release the game early GET IT IN WRITING! That way, there's no way they can turn around later and say, "Uh.. no we didn't say you could do that."

I'm also not getting this game or buying any products related to Activision because, quite frankly, they've never made a game I gave a rat's ass about anyway.

Man these pc "hardcore gamers" are funny as hell. First I own a very high end pc that i bought and put built myself,a 360 and ps3. I cant believe all the kiddies throwing temper tantrums cause mw2 had low specs and no dedicated servers. Seriously your gonna miss out on possibly the best shooter that you can get? Do you think that you coming on fourms and crying about no dedicated servers and your cancelling your pre order is gonna make you part of some sort of movement? I swear pc "hardcore gamer" fanboys are as bad as mac fanboys. You think that your on some sort of magical unicorn and your better than everyone else cause you CHOOSE to play your games with a keyboard and mouse.

Heres the facts:
There will never be dedicated servers for this game so stop bithcing!

Console gamers make up more than the strictly pc gamers so get over it!

Who the hell died and made it so that when games are made, they cater to you?

I, like alot of people have a very nice cpu but mostly game on xbox live why you ask, because all of my friends have a 360 and live, not a 2000 dollar gaming rig. If I gamed on my cpu, I would be gaming alone.

Your tantrums and cancelling your pre orders are getting you now where. So you can sit there on the floor of Target criss-cross applesauce and bitch all you want. While you do that, others that have some damn sense will be enjoying a great shooter. Your not hurting nobody trust me.

It will still take the Earth 24 hours to make a complete rotation if you cancel your pre order.

The game will still be the biggest selling game in one day sales if you chose to cancel your pre order.

The point is who cares how powerful your cpu is or if you chose to be a pc gamer fanboy. The whole point of being a gamer is just that, you play games and dont care if its on a controller or a keyboard and mouse.

Be a gamer not a fanboy!

Bad Company wasn't released on PC, what the hell are you talking about? Go find a clue, bro. You seemed to have lost yours.


Here are the facts: PC game-play demands certain differences in different aspects of a game. The PC crowd spends much more money on their consoles, in the knowledge that they inherently have a better gaming experience. Why? No-lag dedicated servers. (Which are already designed, just taken out on IW/Activision's word) Modding tools. (Already designed, otherwise, how did you think 'they' made they game?) Improved Graphics. (Otherwise, why even offer it on a PC system? And again, not hard, as the DX9/DX10 API's lead to very very easy implementation of advanced graphic techniques.)

But all of this really doesn't matter. The reason I am boycotting IW and MW2, is because they've been total jackasses to an important part of their customer base. Sure the game is going to suck real hard. But that's besides the point. I'll be damned if I'm going to give my hard earned money to a company that's going to treat me like they couldn't give less of a damn.

And there's no way in hell I'm going to pay 60 bucks for a 6 hour SP campaign. The PC version of this game has lower value over movie theaters.

Be smart, don't bitch about something when you've barely managed to view one angle of the multi-faceted problem.

I applaud you, You are the first PC gamer that I have read that has put together at least a half-assed complaint (not meant too be insulting). Here are the basic flaws in your arguments:
1)The mod tools you speak of are not created. What the developers use are development tools, not modding tools...Yes their is a big difference.
2)The games are not made too please the customers who are most willing to spend money on the machines they will be playing on, they are made for those who will pay too play what the company makes. This is a basic principle of supply and demand. If the gaming community demanded better graphics, dedicated servers, and so on...then the company would supply it. But instead of demanding it (which means you do not buy and do not play it....this means not even a pirated version) the PC community has just sits on websites complaining and making the whole community look like "cry babies". This shows the company that they shouldn't even listen to all of your complaints.
3) Yes the game is 60 bucks for a 6 hour (or w.e) SP...key word is SP...but this is not counting the re-play-ability. From their you have 6-12-∞ hours, plus the endless hours of MP. But also as for 60 dollars, that is the price for everyone, do not act like it is more then the consoles and such. Also don't make a complaint that it is worse quality then you "deserve" for the price because you are simply getting the exact same experience that the console gamers get...so you can not argue fairness and the company does not owe PC gamers anything.
4) No lag dedicated servers? Just because they are dedicated does not mean that they are lag free....most dedicated servers lag for someone. It just has to do with the location related to you, which means that even if its a clan server then you could only play with people from the same region which doesn't help but just hurts you as a whole and further more just shows that you don't really get a "full" gaming experience (Ive played on Sony's ps3 Japan servers before with 0 lag or problems).
5) The PC community has been much much ruder then IW or Activision has been by far. Most of the people who post go on about how the companies should "burn in hell" or that they hope that the companies shut down...
6) I hope that you and all these other players do not spend their hard earned money on the game. That is your right as a consumer. If you do not wish to buy it then don't, but please do not go around bashing or slandering a game because the developers simply tried too make the game as fair as possible (which was asked by the community do too hackers/cheaters and by those who ran servers that had annoying mods on that just ruined their stats.

Lastly to the PC gamers, do not go around thinking that you are all high and mighty compared to any other gaming systems simply because you chose too spend all of your "hard earned money" on an expensive gaming rig. Just because you use a keyboard or have some better graphics does not make you any more of a hardcore gamer then a console user. If you believe that too be a false statement then you are obviously too ignorant and self absolved...

Activision is the best thing that could ever have happened to EA. Period.

"5) The PC community has been much much ruder then IW or Activision has been by far. Most of the people who post go on about how the companies should "burn in hell" or that they hope that the companies shut down... "
How is PC community ruder? What are you thinking? Can you proof it?

Yes, here (just from this small sample of peoples comments):

All of these comments (this isnt even a bad thread compared too some...) are rude, and immature. If you go on Robert Bowling's (the community manager....so he has no control over the game, he's just the guy who delivers news) facebook has tons of posts like these...

Eh, sorry didnt mean too quote adillhoff....his isnt rlly rude (well that depends on how he ment it...but i wont count it)

There are many examples of amazing modded support games that just release the dev tools to the consumers. We're not so stupid that we cant figure out the 'complicated "Developer'" tools. [citation]
2)The games are not made too please the customers who are most willing to spend money on the machines they will be playing on, they are made for those who will pay too play what the company makes. This is a basic principle of supply and demand. If the gaming community demanded better graphics, dedicated servers, and so on...then the company would supply it. But instead of demanding it (which means you do not buy and do not play it....this means not even a pirated version) the PC community has just sits on websites complaining and making the whole community look like "cry babies". This shows the company that they shouldn't even listen to all of your complaints.[/citation]
“That's jus’ plain ig'nant”. Perhaps you missed the 180,000 signature petition peacefully posted yet deleted three times on the official IW forums. Or perhaps you missed the eloquent protests, remarking how simply taking features that are already built into the engine, or charging the $10 usually reserved for console fees as extra profits from PC players, isn’t anywhere near consumer friendly.
Someone who obviously holds themselves in regaurd as an intelligent individual should readily be able to understand that the largest portion of the noise you hear on forums, bashing IW and their games, are the usual loud obnoxious guys who don’t have the general common sense to know when to keep their mouth shut in the first place. It’s a very small minority of PC players, but when every one of them are screaming their loudest to be heard above the rest, it gets noisy.
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3) Yes the game is 60 bucks for a 6 hour (or w.e) SP...key word is SP...but this is not counting the re-play-ability. From their you have 6-12-∞ hours, plus the endless hours of MP. But also as for 60 dollars, that is the price for everyone, do not act like it is more then the consoles and such. Also don't make a complaint that it is worse quality then you "deserve" for the price because you are simply getting the exact same experience that the console gamers get...so you can not argue fairness and the company does not owe PC gamers anything.
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First off, with the match making system making it very difficult for clans to operate within the MW2 environment, you can be sure most clans and squads will opt out, instead playing BC2 or ArmA2. And I’d go as far to say that even quite a few non-clanned players will find themselves doing the same.
Second, all CoD storylines have been extremely linier in execution. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but it doesn’t ever lend itself to SP replay-ability. Assuming that I’ll be replaying the SP just to see the same story happen in the same way points at your assumption that I have lots of time to waste. I don’t. And for 60 bucks, my time would much better be spent, even sitting in a messy theater, dining on over salted popcorn with my girlfriend. At least then, I’m doing something constructive.
Third, let’s review very briefly why the price has risen from the standard $49.99 to $59.99. PC prices aren’t dictated by the console manufacturers at all. For console games, publishers must pay a platform royalty fee of roughly $10. Obviously, since the PC is an open platform, there are no royalties to be paid. Traditionally, PC publishers have handed this savings over to the player. This isn’t just a favor, but plain smart business ethics. Activision has ignored business ethics for this round, planning on scraping a free $10 from PC players. And has even gone on record saying they wish they could charge even more.
Fourth, with third in mind, it’s easy to come to the logical conclusion that because Activision, and subsequently, IW is bringing in more profit from PC gamers, PC gamers should have some additional content to justify the price increase. Yet, we are given a crippled game, brought down to the console standards which contradict the entire reason why we play the PC platform over consoles in the first place. And in case you failed to notice, that last paragraph was so blindingly honest, even I staggered a bit while rereading it. But I wouldn’t put it past you.
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4) No lag dedicated servers? Just because they are dedicated does not mean that they are lag free....most dedicated servers lag for someone. It just has to do with the location related to you, which means that even if its a clan server then you could only play with people from the same region which doesn't help but just hurts you as a whole and further more just shows that you don't really get a "full" gaming experience (Ive played on Sony's ps3 Japan servers before with 0 lag or problems).
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Lag free dedicated servers indicate that the host server information is being run through a dedicated hardware platform through a strong 10+/mb upload stream. Almost no one has easy access to the type of connections that are required to run lag free games. This is precisely why companies such as gameservers.com have popped up. There is a need for dedicated server play. There’s no logical way to refute that fact.
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5) The PC community has been much much ruder then IW or Activision has been by far. Most of the people who post go on about how the companies should "burn in hell" or that they hope that the companies shut down...
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See paragraph two in the rebuttal under your second point.
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6) I hope that you and all these other players do not spend their hard earned money on the game. That is your right as a consumer. If you do not wish to buy it then don't, but please do not go around bashing or slandering a game because the developers simply tried too make the game as fair as possible (which was asked by the community do too hackers/cheaters and by those who ran servers that had annoying mods on that just ruined their stats. Lastly to the PC gamers, do not go around thinking that you are all high and mighty compared to any other gaming systems simply because you chose too spend all of your "hard earned money" on an expensive gaming rig. Just because you use a keyboard or have some better graphics does not make you any more of a hardcore gamer then a console user. If you believe that too be a false statement then you are obviously too ignorant and self absolved...[/citation]
You’re certainly right that I won’t be spending my ‘hard earned’ money on the game. But lets forgo the conclusion that developers made the game ‘fairly’. They’ve shown every intention of ripping off the PC gamer, to drag as much cash from them as possible for a clunky console port that no one wants. And for the record, modded servers don’t have the ability to alter officially recorded stats.
You’re right, owning a more capable platform doesn’t make me any more ‘hardcore’. But I do believe in what I want. If a company whose provided exactly what PC gamers wanted in the past, suddenly decides to water down their portfolio and gouge PC prices for no other inclination aside from greed, you can be sure that I’ll have a word or two to say to them before I move on and find a more capable and ethical dev studio to put my money towards.

If a moderator happens to glance in here, please do me a favor and fix my quotes in my post above. I'd really appreciate it.

well said Curnel_D