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Anonymous
December 11, 2004 2:36:56 AM

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My girlfriend and I have two Verizon phones, each with unlimited IN
calling (on a family plan, in fact). If I call her, I know it doesn't
cost me any minutes, but does it cost her minutes to receive the call?

Thanks,
Mark

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Anonymous
December 11, 2004 4:17:47 AM

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Mark P wrote:
> My girlfriend and I have two Verizon phones, each with unlimited IN
> calling (on a family plan, in fact). If I call her, I know it doesn't
> cost me any minutes, but does it cost her minutes to receive the call?
>
> Thanks,
> Mark

It depends... Unlimited in network USED to only be on the primary line to
any other verizon user except others on YOUR family share plan (2nd/3rd etc
users, unless you paid extra), but that is changed now, and depends on how
old your contract is. There was an option for about $10 to allow secondary
lines to also have unlimited in, and Nowadays most plans allow unlimited
from every phone on a share plan... But again, don't know when you got yours
and what it's specifics are.
Anonymous
December 11, 2004 5:06:26 AM

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Peter Pan wrote:
> Mark P wrote:
>
>>My girlfriend and I have two Verizon phones, each with unlimited IN
>>calling (on a family plan, in fact). If I call her, I know it doesn't
>>cost me any minutes, but does it cost her minutes to receive the call?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Mark
>
>
> It depends... Unlimited in network USED to only be on the primary line to
> any other verizon user except others on YOUR family share plan (2nd/3rd etc
> users, unless you paid extra), but that is changed now, and depends on how
> old your contract is. There was an option for about $10 to allow secondary
> lines to also have unlimited in, and Nowadays most plans allow unlimited
> from every phone on a share plan... But again, don't know when you got yours
> and what it's specifics are.
>
>

Heh, I just signed up with VZW today. New enough? :)  I think I saw
somewhere the incoming calls are also free but I can't seem to find a
clear documenation of that right now.

On a related note, if incoming VZW calls are free, is there any way to
tell for an arbitrary incoming call if it's from another VZW user?
Besides asking them, of course.

Thanks,
Mark
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Anonymous
December 11, 2004 7:45:14 AM

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In coming calls are the same as any other calls on VZN and they cost
you air time.

The IN NETWORK anytime plan is a neat feature. I encourage anyone with
VZN to add me to their phone list and call anytime provided they call
from their VZN phone. Last month I used over 2000 minutes in a basic
400 minute VZN plan by using so much IN NETWORK calling. The chargable
peak minutes were less than 250 so there were no extra charges in the
VZN bill.

IN NETWORK is an extremly competive feature of VZN if you make use of
it. It is a much better deal than roll over minutes and other
incentives found at other carriers. It is also to VZN's advantage as it
encourages people to presuade their friends to join VZN to get in on
the free calling. The more who use VZN among your friends the better it
gets for everyone.
Anonymous
December 11, 2004 12:44:39 PM

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Mark P wrote:
> Peter Pan wrote:
>> Mark P wrote:
>>
>>> My girlfriend and I have two Verizon phones, each with unlimited IN
>>> calling (on a family plan, in fact). If I call her, I know it
>>> doesn't cost me any minutes, but does it cost her minutes to
>>> receive the call?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mark
>>
>>
>> It depends... Unlimited in network USED to only be on the primary
>> line to any other verizon user except others on YOUR family share
>> plan (2nd/3rd etc users, unless you paid extra), but that is changed
>> now, and depends on how old your contract is. There was an option
>> for about $10 to allow secondary lines to also have unlimited in,
>> and Nowadays most plans allow unlimited from every phone on a share
>> plan... But again, don't know when you got yours and what it's
>> specifics are.
>>
>>
>
> Heh, I just signed up with VZW today. New enough? :)  I think I saw
> somewhere the incoming calls are also free but I can't seem to find a
> clear documenation of that right now.
>
> On a related note, if incoming VZW calls are free, is there any way to
> tell for an arbitrary incoming call if it's from another VZW user?
> Besides asking them, of course.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark

Couple of things. I have no idea what market you are in, that $10 fee per
line thing is now being waived in many markets, but not all... or if you
both have national or local share plans. It also depends on your GF's plan
and location when you do an in network call. For instance, if you are in a
Native Verizon area (and in your plan area) when you call it will be free to
you, but depending on your GF's location (and the plan she has), it may be a
fee call to her (aka it will cost her).

For instance, My friend has a family LOCAL share plan, and I have a NATIONAL
share plan. If he calls me (I am currently in Las Vegas), it's free, but if
he travels outside of his local area (he lives in spokane and went to
chicago last month), it is no longer free for him. If *I* go outside of the
native area (I was on a boat this fall on lake mead/colorado river and
roaming), I was charged for an in network call that was free for him! Same
when I was in Alaska and roaming.

There is also a current problem, in SOME plan areas, that if you have caller
id blocking turned on, in network doesn't know it is is supposed to be in
network, and you BOTH get charged minutes!

Because of the variety of plans and locations, there is no absolute answer,
but I would suggest you BOTH call *611 and ask the CS people (they can look
at your plan and tell you better than people here).. And ask them about
exceptions specifically for *YOUR* location/plan.

Sorry I can't be more specific, but it really does depend on your (and her)
plan, location, and type of connection (native/extended/roaming), and
features active (call blocking etc).
Anonymous
December 11, 2004 3:34:03 PM

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I have A/C Family Share, and was paying the $10 for other lines to have
unlimited "IN". Verizon sent me a letter a few months ago dropping the $10
charge, saying it was now included standard.
To answer first post---"IN" calls are free on both ends (that's Verizon to
Verizon, both phones in the "IN" areas). Make sure caller ID is not blocked
on either phone, just to be safe. There is some argument on what this does
to "IN" charges.
I wish there was a way to tell, during a call, whether it is an "IN" call or
not. Don't know of any, other than asking the other party if they are VZN or
not.
"Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:31vsa1F3grlogU1@individual.net...
> Mark P wrote:
>> My girlfriend and I have two Verizon phones, each with unlimited IN
>> calling (on a family plan, in fact). If I call her, I know it doesn't
>> cost me any minutes, but does it cost her minutes to receive the call?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
>
> It depends... Unlimited in network USED to only be on the primary line to
> any other verizon user except others on YOUR family share plan (2nd/3rd
> etc
> users, unless you paid extra), but that is changed now, and depends on how
> old your contract is. There was an option for about $10 to allow secondary
> lines to also have unlimited in, and Nowadays most plans allow unlimited
> from every phone on a share plan... But again, don't know when you got
> yours
> and what it's specifics are.
>
>
Anonymous
December 11, 2004 3:34:04 PM

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Just to add more confusion, it ALSO depends on the type of plan (local share
or national share) you both have... If you have a local plan AND go out of
your local area, all calls cost, there is no in network then, it's all
roaming.

Prilosec wrote:
> I have A/C Family Share, and was paying the $10 for other lines to
> have unlimited "IN". Verizon sent me a letter a few months ago
> dropping the $10 charge, saying it was now included standard.
> To answer first post---"IN" calls are free on both ends (that's
> Verizon to Verizon, both phones in the "IN" areas). Make sure caller
> ID is not blocked on either phone, just to be safe. There is some
> argument on what this does to "IN" charges.
> I wish there was a way to tell, during a call, whether it is an "IN"
> call or not. Don't know of any, other than asking the other party if
> they are VZN or not.
> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:31vsa1F3grlogU1@individual.net...
>> Mark P wrote:
>>> My girlfriend and I have two Verizon phones, each with unlimited IN
>>> calling (on a family plan, in fact). If I call her, I know it
>>> doesn't cost me any minutes, but does it cost her minutes to
>>> receive the call?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mark
>>
>> It depends... Unlimited in network USED to only be on the primary
>> line to any other verizon user except others on YOUR family share
>> plan (2nd/3rd etc
>> users, unless you paid extra), but that is changed now, and depends
>> on how old your contract is. There was an option for about $10 to
>> allow secondary lines to also have unlimited in, and Nowadays most
>> plans allow unlimited from every phone on a share plan... But again,
>> don't know when you got yours
>> and what it's specifics are.
Anonymous
December 11, 2004 3:50:21 PM

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"Mark P" <not@my.real.email> wrote in message
news:cpegr00sgu@enews3.newsguy.com...
> Peter Pan wrote:
>> Mark P wrote:
>>
>>>My girlfriend and I have two Verizon phones, each with unlimited IN
>>>calling (on a family plan, in fact). If I call her, I know it doesn't
>>>cost me any minutes, but does it cost her minutes to receive the call?
>>
>> It depends... Unlimited in network USED to only be on the primary line to
>> any other verizon user except others on YOUR family share plan (2nd/3rd
>> etc
>> users, unless you paid extra), but that is changed now, and depends on
>> how
>> old your contract is. There was an option for about $10 to allow
>> secondary
>> lines to also have unlimited in, and Nowadays most plans allow unlimited
>> from every phone on a share plan... But again, don't know when you got
>> yours
>> and what it's specifics are.
>>
> Heh, I just signed up with VZW today. New enough? :)  I think I saw
> somewhere the incoming calls are also free but I can't seem to find a
> clear documenation of that right now.
>
> On a related note, if incoming VZW calls are free, is there any way to
> tell for an arbitrary incoming call if it's from another VZW user? Besides
> asking them, of course.
>

Mark, incoming calls are free (in the sense that they are charged against
your IN Calling bucket of minutes). You can verify this by checking your
usage at the VerizonWireless site or by calling #MIN on your cell phone. In
my home area, my usage is typically posted within a couple of minutes after
completing a call.

I know of no way to determine if an incoming call is from another
VerizonWireless user or not.

Harold
Anonymous
December 11, 2004 4:47:34 PM

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Ok, so now I'm confused.

I have the AC national plan (400 min + free nights/weekends).

I thought that I could automatically call any other VZ cell
phone for free, and that any VZ cell phone who calls me, would
also be free (at least for me, ie not eat up my minutes).

Is this not correct?

Esmail
Anonymous
December 11, 2004 4:47:35 PM

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Esmail Bonakdarian wrote:
> Ok, so now I'm confused.
>
> I have the AC national plan (400 min + free nights/weekends).
>
> I thought that I could automatically call any other VZ cell
> phone for free, and that any VZ cell phone who calls me, would
> also be free (at least for me, ie not eat up my minutes).
>
> Is this not correct?
>
> Esmail

Since you don't have a shared plan.. yes, in your home area (roaming would
be different and false but ONLY when roaming)
Anonymous
December 11, 2004 5:02:51 PM

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When you are roaming you are not in VZN network - so they can not give
you IN NETWORK CALLING.

I travel all over and call around the country and have yet to be hit
with a roaming charge. I do go through some rual areas along I-85 in
Alabama that show the phone droping off network for a few minutes but I
have never made or taken a call during that few minutes of drive time.

In the SE USA VZN has a great network and most of it is all DIGITAL
which is one key reason I dropped SPRINT which has a slightly inferior
network around here.
Anonymous
December 12, 2004 2:34:43 PM

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It's really not that hard. If your plan has "IN", your calls to other
Verizon phones are free for you as long as you are in the "IN" areas
(typcially, if not all, Verizon digital areas). If the other party also has
"IN" and is also in a Verizon "IN" area, the calls are free for both
parties. If the other person calls you, make sure your phone does not say
"restricted number" or "blocked number", etc.. THis can be a problem in
billing, and means the other person is not sending caller-id data, which may
or may not be necessary for VZW to figure out this is a Verizon customer
calling. Tell them to manually unblock the call and call again (dial *82 and
your cell number next time). This caller-id thing is the tricky issue, and
seems to be inconsistent. I had all 4 of my lines "blocked" by default, but
unblocked them when I found I was paying peak minutes for calls from my
daughter (on my plan). I am not so carefully about giving out my cell number
anymore, anyway. It is getting cheap enough, and most of the people I call
with caller id are other VZW customers anyway!
"Esmail Bonakdarian" <ebonakDUH@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:10rmg675543gi6a@corp.supernews.com...
> Ok, so now I'm confused.
>
> I have the AC national plan (400 min + free nights/weekends).
>
> I thought that I could automatically call any other VZ cell
> phone for free, and that any VZ cell phone who calls me, would
> also be free (at least for me, ie not eat up my minutes).
>
> Is this not correct?
>
> Esmail
December 12, 2004 3:32:22 PM

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On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 11:34:43 -0500, "Prilosec" <purple@nni.net> wrote:

>THis can be a problem in
>billing, and means the other person is not sending caller-id data, which may
>or may not be necessary for VZW to figure out this is a Verizon customer
>calling.

You mean that Verizon doesn't use ANI?! How extremely odd.

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December 13, 2004 3:05:39 AM

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I do, add everyone dial list that may call you that is a verizon customer,
then their name shows on called Id. It if doesn't show, they're not on
verizon. simple.

"Harold Sherrill" <hlsherrill@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:h2Cud.42687$Al3.39678@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
>
> "Mark P" <not@my.real.email> wrote in message
> news:cpegr00sgu@enews3.newsguy.com...
> > Peter Pan wrote:
> >> Mark P wrote:
> >>
> >>>My girlfriend and I have two Verizon phones, each with unlimited IN
> >>>calling (on a family plan, in fact). If I call her, I know it doesn't
> >>>cost me any minutes, but does it cost her minutes to receive the call?
> >>
> >> It depends... Unlimited in network USED to only be on the primary line
to
> >> any other verizon user except others on YOUR family share plan (2nd/3rd
> >> etc
> >> users, unless you paid extra), but that is changed now, and depends on
> >> how
> >> old your contract is. There was an option for about $10 to allow
> >> secondary
> >> lines to also have unlimited in, and Nowadays most plans allow
unlimited
> >> from every phone on a share plan... But again, don't know when you got
> >> yours
> >> and what it's specifics are.
> >>
> > Heh, I just signed up with VZW today. New enough? :)  I think I saw
> > somewhere the incoming calls are also free but I can't seem to find a
> > clear documenation of that right now.
> >
> > On a related note, if incoming VZW calls are free, is there any way to
> > tell for an arbitrary incoming call if it's from another VZW user?
Besides
> > asking them, of course.
> >
>
> Mark, incoming calls are free (in the sense that they are charged against
> your IN Calling bucket of minutes). You can verify this by checking your
> usage at the VerizonWireless site or by calling #MIN on your cell phone.
In
> my home area, my usage is typically posted within a couple of minutes
after
> completing a call.
>
> I know of no way to determine if an incoming call is from another
> VerizonWireless user or not.
>
> Harold
>
>
Anonymous
December 13, 2004 7:23:58 AM

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In article <olapr0h6knntqts14i9sqqg4nj8io1jqb3@4ax.com>,
Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 11:34:43 -0500, "Prilosec" <purple@nni.net> wrote:
>
>>THis can be a problem in
>>billing, and means the other person is not sending caller-id data, which may
>>or may not be necessary for VZW to figure out this is a Verizon customer
>>calling.
>
>You mean that Verizon doesn't use ANI?! How extremely odd.

It is even more odd if blocking Caller-ID indeed disables IN calling,
since CID blocking only prevents *display* of the number at the
called phone. The CID information traverses the network, so other CID
features such as distinctive ringing and selective call blocking can work
(on landline phones, anyway) even on blocked calls. Only networking
limitations (e.g., a little mom-and-pop cellular operation with lame
equipment, or a slezeball telemarketer configuring their equipment
to disable outgoing CID) can prevent the CID info from getting to the
end switch.
Anonymous
December 13, 2004 3:15:39 PM

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Brad wrote:
> I do, add everyone dial list that may call you that is a verizon customer,
> then their name shows on called Id. It if doesn't show, they're not on
> verizon. simple.

Wrong - names never show up on caller ID on a cell phone unless you have a
phonebook entry for the number the person is calling from.


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December 14, 2004 12:19:35 AM

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Exactly what I proposed to do in my reply....

"Steve Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
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> Brad wrote:
> > I do, add everyone dial list that may call you that is a verizon
customer,
> > then their name shows on called Id. It if doesn't show, they're not on
> > verizon. simple.
>
> Wrong - names never show up on caller ID on a cell phone unless you have a
> phonebook entry for the number the person is calling from.
>
>
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Anonymous
December 14, 2004 12:19:36 AM

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Brad wrote:
> Exactly what I proposed to do in my reply....

Yeahbut, that still requires you to know beforehand whether the caller is a
Verizon customer or not, and I think the original point is that that is not
always possible.


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Anonymous
December 14, 2004 8:50:23 PM

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Thanks everyone.

Esmail
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