850 or 1900 Mhz in California?

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I heard Cingular and T-mobile are the same in California in terms of band.
Are they 850 or 1900?

 

[fester]

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1900 I use a V66 thats unlocked on Cingular doesnt work so hot when I go
back to Nashville TN which is 850
"John Smith" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I heard Cingular and T-mobile are the same in California in terms of band.
> Are they 850 or 1900?
>
>

 

[Joseph]

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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 06:46:00 GMT, "John Smith" <someone@microsoft.com>
wrote:

>I heard Cingular and T-mobile are the same in California in terms of band.
>Are they 850 or 1900?

cingular and T-Mobile use the same system in California at 1900.
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In <j1hqr0161cepmfhn66vp7gh02gba0advtv@4ax.com> Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> writes:

>>I heard Cingular and T-mobile are the same in California in terms of band.
>>Are they 850 or 1900?

>cingular and T-Mobile use the same system in California at 1900.

That's currently the case but will be changing in the near future (and may
have started the transition in some areas)

Similary, Cingular has been using T-Mobile's infrastructure in the NYC
area, but that too is going to go bye bye.


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[Joseph]

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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:54:21 +0000 (UTC), danny burstein
<dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

>In <j1hqr0161cepmfhn66vp7gh02gba0advtv@4ax.com> Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>>>I heard Cingular and T-mobile are the same in California in terms of band.
>>>Are they 850 or 1900?
>
>>cingular and T-Mobile use the same system in California at 1900.
>
>That's currently the case but will be changing in the near future (and may
>have started the transition in some areas)
>
>Similary, Cingular has been using T-Mobile's infrastructure in the NYC
>area, but that too is going to go bye bye.

Are we living in the here and now or are we living in the future?!

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[Guest]

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Then how to explain why Cingular always gives better signal than T-mobile,
no matter which phone is used?

"danny burstein" <dannyb@panix.com> wrote in message
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> In <j1hqr0161cepmfhn66vp7gh02gba0advtv@4ax.com> Joseph
<JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> >>I heard Cingular and T-mobile are the same in California in terms of
band.
> >>Are they 850 or 1900?
>
> >cingular and T-Mobile use the same system in California at 1900.
>
> That's currently the case but will be changing in the near future (and may
> have started the transition in some areas)
>
> Similary, Cingular has been using T-Mobile's infrastructure in the NYC
> area, but that too is going to go bye bye.
>
>
> --
> _____________________________________________________
> Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
> dannyb@panix.com
> [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

 

[rod]

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That's because the v66 doesn't do 850.


Fester wrote:
> 1900 I use a V66 thats unlocked on Cingular doesnt work so hot when I
> go back to Nashville TN which is 850
> "John Smith" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:HUavd.59036$QJ3.1148@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
>> I heard Cingular and T-mobile are the same in California in terms of
>> band. Are they 850 or 1900?

 

[Guest]

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Here in California, the signal is the same on Cingular as on T-Mobile *unless*
you're roaming on ATTWS.

In <Ladvd.59065$QJ3.4600@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> on Mon, 13 Dec 2004
09:21:48 GMT, "John Smith" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:

>Then how to explain why Cingular always gives better signal than T-mobile,
>no matter which phone is used?
>
>"danny burstein" <dannyb@panix.com> wrote in message
>news:cpjhrd$fnt$1@reader1.panix.com...
>> In <j1hqr0161cepmfhn66vp7gh02gba0advtv@4ax.com> Joseph
><JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> writes:
>>
>> >>I heard Cingular and T-mobile are the same in California in terms of
>band.
>> >>Are they 850 or 1900?
>>
>> >cingular and T-Mobile use the same system in California at 1900.
>>
>> That's currently the case but will be changing in the near future (and may
>> have started the transition in some areas)
>>
>> Similary, Cingular has been using T-Mobile's infrastructure in the NYC
>> area, but that too is going to go bye bye.

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In <cpjhrd$fnt$1@reader1.panix.com> on Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:54:21 +0000 (UTC),
danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

>In <j1hqr0161cepmfhn66vp7gh02gba0advtv@4ax.com> Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>>>I heard Cingular and T-mobile are the same in California in terms of band.
>>>Are they 850 or 1900?
>
>>cingular and T-Mobile use the same system in California at 1900.
>
>That's currently the case but will be changing in the near future (and may
>have started the transition in some areas)

Cingular has a multi-year roaming agreement with T-Mobile for the California
infrastructure.

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[Guest]

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>I heard Cingular and T-mobile are the same in California in terms of band.
>Are they 850 or 1900?
>

T-Mobile has no facilities in CA. They use Cingulars.

As for the frequency band, I don't know for sure but suspect that it is 1900MHz
as T-Mobile hasn't sold a lot of phones that are both frequencies.

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In <20041213203603.21518.00001785@mb-m11.aol.com> on 14 Dec 2004 01:36:03 GMT,
sexyexotiche@aol.comspamfree (John S.) wrote:

>>I heard Cingular and T-mobile are the same in California in terms of band.
>>Are they 850 or 1900?
>
>T-Mobile has no facilities in CA. They use Cingulars.

T-mobile and Cingular actually had a joint venture in California. T-Mobile is
now buying that out, with a multi-year roaming agreement being sold back to
Cingular.

>As for the frequency band, I don't know for sure but suspect that it is 1900MHz
>as T-Mobile hasn't sold a lot of phones that are both frequencies.

1900

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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:09:02 GMT, John Navas
<spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> said in alt.cellular.cingular:

>Here in California, the signal is the same on Cingular as on T-Mobile *unless*
>you're roaming on ATTWS.

Same in New York, except that the lessor and lessee are reversed.
(TMO owns the towers here.).

 

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In <esnsr0ll10eluotbiplk2rm6uobhfi0mrc@4ax.com> on Tue, 14 Dec 2004 03:36:36
GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@verizon.org> wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:09:02 GMT, John Navas
><spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> said in alt.cellular.cingular:
>
>>Here in California, the signal is the same on Cingular as on T-Mobile *unless*
>>you're roaming on ATTWS.
>
>Same in New York, except that the lessor and lessee are reversed.
>(TMO owns the towers here.).

In California, towers are owned by a joint venture between Cingular and
T-Mobile. That joint venture is now being bought out by T-Mobile, with
multi-year roaming being sold back to Cingular.

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On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 04:32:52 GMT, John Navas
<spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> said in alt.cellular.cingular:

>In California, towers are owned by a joint venture between Cingular and
>T-Mobile. That joint venture is now being bought out by T-Mobile, with
>multi-year roaming being sold back to Cingular.

You have to remember that Cingular got into the NY Metro market by
mistake.

 

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In <sm9vr01ves32fg4gfqe1vnhdmu56lmpp1h@4ax.com> Al Klein <rukbat@verizon.org> writes:

>You have to remember that Cingular got into the NY Metro market by
>mistake.

huh? all ears here. please tell...

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In <sm9vr01ves32fg4gfqe1vnhdmu56lmpp1h@4ax.com> on Wed, 15 Dec 2004 02:55:02
GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@verizon.org> wrote:

>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 04:32:52 GMT, John Navas
><spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> said in alt.cellular.cingular:
>
>>In California, towers are owned by a joint venture between Cingular and
>>T-Mobile. That joint venture is now being bought out by T-Mobile, with
>>multi-year roaming being sold back to Cingular.
>
>You have to remember that Cingular got into the NY Metro market by
>mistake.

Huh?

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On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 05:40:01 +0000 (UTC), danny burstein
<dannyb@panix.com> said in alt.cellular.cingular:

>In <sm9vr01ves32fg4gfqe1vnhdmu56lmpp1h@4ax.com> Al Klein <rukbat@verizon.org> writes:

>>You have to remember that Cingular got into the NY Metro market by
>>mistake.

>huh? all ears here. please tell...

They deliberately got into the northern New Jersey market, not
realizing that the eastern part of northern New Jersey (probably 2/3
of it) is the NYC Metro market. They're /still/ ramping up after all
this time.