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March 8, 2010 3:26:57 AM

thanx jd.
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March 8, 2010 3:41:00 AM

individual core temp is not important, the overall CPU temp is what you need to be looking at. One core will always be warmer than the other/others.

speedfan works great and it is free, everest is superior since it gives you ALL your temps but it is 39.99$ to keep, trial lasts 30 days.
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March 8, 2010 7:52:47 AM

cjsdaddy said:
I just unlocked the fourth core on a athlon II 435, now CPU_Z is showin it as a Phenom II X4 B35, if that counts. I got a Giga GA-770TA-UD3, but I'm not sure how to check the bios version without rebooting. Currently its OCed to 3.1. Now I just need to figure out how to speed up the memory. Did I read somewhere that unlocking cores messes up your PCU temp readings? is it possible to unlock the third cache?

You can get the BIOS version from the "Mainboard" tab of CPU-Z.
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March 9, 2010 12:58:21 AM

ok thanx I got the bios, sry I cant get you the pic. Still learning about the forum. The bios is Award software International Inc. version F1 11/19/2009
Hope I got it all. :) 
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March 28, 2010 11:55:57 PM

I used to do some overclocking years ago but I'm pretty much a noob all over again. I have a GA-MA785GM-UD2H and a AMD Athlon II 435 that I've confirmed (through serial number and build date) has a Denab core.

How do I go about seeing if I can unlock the fourth core and L3 cache? I just built the system last night and I'm not used to the newer bios features.

Any help would be appreciated!
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March 29, 2010 1:46:18 AM

Routs said:
I used to do some overclocking years ago but I'm pretty much a noob all over again. I have a GA-MA785GM-UD2H and a AMD Athlon II 435 that I've confirmed (through serial number and build date) has a Denab core.

How do I go about seeing if I can unlock the fourth core and L3 cache? I just built the system last night and I'm not used to the newer bios features.

Any help would be appreciated!

IT's a pretty easy process on the Gigabyte MOBOs - go into the Bios and under the Advanced Core Calibration option switch EC firmware selection to Hybrid mode instead of Normal and then set ACC to All Cores - Save the changes and see if it will boot (if it errors out you can try adding a small amount of voltage to the Vcore and retry (some of the 4th cores just need a bit more voltage to run stable) - If it still will not boot then chances are it is a bad 4th core.
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March 30, 2010 7:06:31 AM

Hey everyone! thanks for posting...I can't believe I've been gone for so long...
Wow...but I'm back...hopefully for a while...lol
but thanks...anymore posts? I need more successful/unsuccessful attempts...lol
thanks :) 
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March 30, 2010 2:25:02 PM

videl said:
OK I built a phenom II X2 system and as many of you who read my threads know I successfully unlocked the locked cores on it...I know that a number of people here on toms also had the same success I did...
For those who don't know about my system I'll post it later...
But I just want all the people who had success/no success in unlocking any phenom II X2 or X3 to post their results on this thread...or you could just PM me...I'm gonna do a phenom II unlocking guide and I want to collect some statistics to see approximately how high of a chance it is to build a computer with an X2 or X3 and successfully unlock.
Thanks...

PS: If it's not hard I would like to also know what motherboard and bios version you guys used to unlock. For those who didn't have success in unlocking cores this guide I'm working on might help in unlocking it if they did something wrong...
Thanks again... :) 


Gigabyte GA-MA78LM-S2H
AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition
Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Heatsink and Fan

  • Went into the MB Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.) section and navigated to the Advanced Clock Calibration section.
  • Set EC Firmware Selection to Hybrid
  • Set ADvanced Clock Calibration to Auto

    Rebooted and I now have an AMD Phenom II X4 20. Ran Prime95 and have had no issues with stability.

    http://service.futuremark.com/resultComparison.action?c...

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    March 31, 2010 12:33:00 AM

    JDFan said:
    IT's a pretty easy process on the Gigabyte MOBOs - go into the Bios and under the Advanced Core Calibration option switch EC firmware selection to Hybrid mode instead of Normal and then set ACC to All Cores - Save the changes and see if it will boot (if it errors out you can try adding a small amount of voltage to the Vcore and retry (some of the 4th cores just need a bit more voltage to run stable) - If it still will not boot then chances are it is a bad 4th core.


    Thanks man! I was able to unlock the fourth core and the 6 MB of L3 cache. I haven't yet been able to test it out (sick like crazy) but I did raise the voltage one small step because it froze on me once. Nothing since then but the real test will come when I'm better and I run Prime 95 through its paces.

    If everything ends up stable, this will end up being a real steal!
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    March 31, 2010 6:34:09 PM

    Yep man it feesls good having such a nice CPU for so little money... :) 
    Thanks to everyone who already posted!
    Pleas keep posting your results I'm about 45% of the way done with the guide. :) 
    Will keep you guys posted as well ;) 
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    April 13, 2010 5:46:37 AM

    Looks like not that many results here...come on guys...
    I might go on another forum to ask for some successful/unsuccessful unlocks...
    Still working on guide...will keep you guys posted...

    PS: More posts please....?
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    April 15, 2010 10:04:45 AM

    videl said:
    Looks like not that many results here...come on guys...
    I might go on another forum to ask for some successful/unsuccessful unlocks...
    Still working on guide...will keep you guys posted...

    PS: More posts please....?


    I built a rig for my friend with a 550 BE, Im going to talk him into letting me unlock the cores this weekend. He's really leery cuz I fried my PHIIx4 920 with bad math and 1.8 vCore. Oops!

    Well gave me an excuse to get a C3 stepping 955!
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    April 15, 2010 11:17:36 AM

    JDFan said:
    IT's a pretty easy process on the Gigabyte MOBOs - go into the Bios and under the Advanced Core Calibration option switch EC firmware selection to Hybrid mode instead of Normal and then set ACC to All Cores - Save the changes and see if it will boot (if it errors out you can try adding a small amount of voltage to the Vcore and retry (some of the 4th cores just need a bit more voltage to run stable) - If it still will not boot then chances are it is a bad 4th core.

    Whats the risk if core unlocking doesn't work out? Is it irreverseable (sp) or can I got into ACC to get the CPU back to its old state?

    I have a Phenom II X2 550 BE @3.5ghz
    my mobo is a ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO, which does have the ACC option.
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    April 15, 2010 12:13:37 PM

    megafreak said:
    Whats the risk if core unlocking doesn't work out? Is it irreverseable (sp) or can I got into ACC to get the CPU back to its old state?

    I have a Phenom II X2 550 BE @3.5ghz
    my mobo is a ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO, which does have the ACC option.


    The worst case scenario that I know of is your system might not allow you to even get to the point to enter the BIOS. In that case, you just have to clear the CMOS to reset the settings.

    In most cases, you can get back into the BIOS and set the settings back to normal. I haven't heard of anyone trashing their board or CPU just by turning the ACC option on.


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    April 15, 2010 2:18:27 PM

    megafreak said:
    Whats the risk if core unlocking doesn't work out? Is it irreverseable (sp) or can I got into ACC to get the CPU back to its old state?

    I have a Phenom II X2 550 BE @3.5ghz
    my mobo is a ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO, which does have the ACC option.

    IF it doesn't work then the system will usually not be able to boot - in which case it is just like any OCing gone bad - you reset the CMOS and get back to default settings for the chip and it will recover - I guess the worst that could happen would be for a power surge or something similar to happen as the MOBO is setting itself into hybrid mode (which is similar to a BIOS Flash) and the MOBO not be able to recover but the odds of that are miniscule - and most modern MOBO's have fail safes to recover from that as well (My Gigiabyte mobo has dual bioses so that if something happens to the primary bios the board will load from the secondary and recover the primary bios for example).

    I have not heard of anyone having a problem like that occur but I guess it is possible - in most instances it would just require resetting the CMOS jumper and you'd be back to original settings ---- and the process is reversible - should you find that the core is only slightly bad and will boot but not run stable then you just change the bios mode back to reverse it back to a dual or triple core - nothing is physically changed on the hardware it is just a software change in the BIOS that enables the core.
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    April 15, 2010 3:27:35 PM

    AMD Phenom II 720x3 BE
    Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P
    Status: Failed (SUCCESS!)

    I used 4 different bios, I had hope for the F3 but there was no ACC option with it for some reason :(  Maybe Gigabyte changed it because of the mandate from AMD. At any rate, I woud love to find the original F3 bios for my board and try it out >.<

    Edit: I was not putting EC firmware at hybrid and that may be the deciding factor, I will test this out in half an hour when I'm on lunch break.

    UPDATE:Mother of god, 4th core unlocked and loving it. PH II x20 running stable :) 
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    April 16, 2010 10:10:39 AM

    dkapke said:
    My HTPC is a Gigabyte 790X board (UD4P) with an unlocked 550


    Why on gods green earth are you using a Gigabyte 790x-ud4p in a HTPC setup? That might have been the best AM2+ board ever made and your wasting it on a HTPC? :bounce:  :ouch: 
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    April 16, 2010 11:19:00 AM

    FALC0N said:
    Why on gods green earth are you using a Gigabyte 790x-ud4p in a HTPC setup? That might have been the best AM2+ board ever made and your wasting it on a HTPC? :bounce:  :ouch: 


    I wonder what his main rig is... :kaola: 
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    April 16, 2010 9:45:24 PM

    Manicslayer said:
    AMD Phenom II 720x3 BE
    Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P
    Status: Failed (SUCCESS!)

    I used 4 different bios, I had hope for the F3 but there was no ACC option with it for some reason :(  Maybe Gigabyte changed it because of the mandate from AMD. At any rate, I woud love to find the original F3 bios for my board and try it out >.<

    Edit: I was not putting EC firmware at hybrid and that may be the deciding factor, I will test this out in half an hour when I'm on lunch break.

    UPDATE:Mother of god, 4th core unlocked and loving it. PH II x20 running stable :) 


    The EC Firmware Selection HAS to be set to hybrid in order for the unlock to work.
    So that's what your problem was. Keep me posted, thanks.
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    April 19, 2010 6:00:35 AM

    Hey guys, I had a little change of plan...
    Not only will I make a written guide I am also working on a video guide/toturial for this...
    I'll keep you guys posted...
    Mean while, anymore attempts from you guys?
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    April 27, 2010 8:13:20 PM

    Wow not ban...I like how it looks...
    My first video guide is about 60-70% finished...
    so I'll post soon...
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    April 27, 2010 8:49:10 PM

    Phenom II X2 550 Failed (doesn't post)
    Asus M4A785-M, Bios - 0702

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    April 27, 2010 9:46:20 PM

    ^oh that sucks...
    So you put it back to dual?
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    April 28, 2010 5:06:50 AM

    i and i never tried to put it into a quad core ever again..... hmmmm :( 
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    April 28, 2010 6:47:23 AM

    My temps show as -259' JD :) 
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    April 28, 2010 6:50:39 AM

    That is a common issue with unlocked cores, they dont read temps correctly.
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    April 28, 2010 7:04:31 AM

    I use speedfan,it lets me know im not frying yet :p 
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    April 30, 2010 2:13:05 AM

    FALC0N said:
    Why on gods green earth are you using a Gigabyte 790x-ud4p in a HTPC setup? That might have been the best AM2+ board ever made and your wasting it on a HTPC? :bounce:  :ouch: 

    I know - stupid, huh? It's been replaced - last month I went to an H55 with a i3-530. It uses about 200W less power and performs just as well - far less noise, too. I didn't have anything else to use the board/setup in so it ended up, foolishly, as my HTPC because I tried to throw cores and memory at an issue I was having trying to play MKV blu-ray rips. Turns out it was nothing but ONE STUPID SETTING in VLC. Ugh. I've learned a lot about HTPC setups over the past year of trying to ditch cable. LOL.

    Awesome board. I ended up pairing it with a 5770 and selling it last month on eBay. My son already had a quad core, my daughter has no need for one, and I've already got a 920, so I shed a tear or two and parted ways with it. :sarcastic: 
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    May 29, 2010 2:06:24 AM

    Hi guys wondering if someone could help me with my Phenom ii 545 whenever i enable acc and set ec firmware to hybrid the bios automatically resets the acc back to disabled what am i doing wrong here?
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    May 29, 2010 2:34:54 AM

    ginja117 said:
    Hi guys wondering if someone could help me with my Phenom ii 545 whenever i enable acc and set ec firmware to hybrid the bios automatically resets the acc back to disabled what am i doing wrong here?


    It's probably a sign that the cores that are locked are bad. Not every unlock is a successful one.


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    May 29, 2010 1:34:48 PM

    OK I have a 550BE with 4 cores running @3.55GHz. Board is Asrock 880G Extreme 3 any worked with bios versions 1.2 & 1.4 and using hyper TX3 fan.
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    May 30, 2010 6:45:22 AM

    Great! you guys are a help...
    I need to finish editing my video guide and then I'll post a link to it...
    As for the written guide it's still in the process of creation...I'll post it here as well as
    on frozentek...
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    May 30, 2010 5:02:59 PM

    Hey im having a problem im able to Unlock my processor to 3 Cores do u think i can unlock it to quad my voltages are stock i only unleashed it and set it to per core 3 cores it stays in the log in screen when i put it to quad core someone can please help me get ma quad core unlocked .....

    m4a785td-Evo
    4 Gbs Of Patriot Ram
    Phenom II X2 550 Be Unlocked To X4 b50 Stock Gz 3.1 But i Only Have It on 3 Cores Cant Get 4th Idk Why Need Help.
    ATI Radeon Hd 5770 1Gb Orignal Factory Card
    Windows 7 64 Bit.
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    May 31, 2010 5:49:51 AM

    +1 Moto
    If you tried everything then your chip probably can't unlock.
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    June 2, 2010 8:20:26 PM

    I don't think he tried everything possible...
    @crayzcreationz , I'll try and help you out...I replied to your a pm allready...
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    June 3, 2010 5:57:47 AM

    Remember to post back on here if its successful or not Videl :) 
    Moto
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    June 8, 2010 8:08:22 PM

    Yeah I definately will...but crayzcreationz is taking a while to respond...
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    June 8, 2010 8:20:08 PM

    videl said:
    Yeah I definately will...but crayzcreationz is taking a while to respond...


    Whoa! how did you get your B50 to do 4.2Ghz? what temps were you getting @ 1.57v?
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    June 9, 2010 8:23:27 AM

    Manicslayer said:
    AMD Phenom II 720x3 BE
    Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P
    Status: Failed (SUCCESS!)

    I used 4 different bios, I had hope for the F3 but there was no ACC option with it for some reason :(  Maybe Gigabyte changed it because of the mandate from AMD. At any rate, I woud love to find the original F3 bios for my board and try it out >.<

    Edit: I was not putting EC firmware at hybrid and that may be the deciding factor, I will test this out in half an hour when I'm on lunch break.

    UPDATE:Mother of god, 4th core unlocked and loving it. PH II x20 running stable :) 


    Hi I just got one of those boards to play a bit with a 555BE. Can you just confirm which bios it is i need for it to work

    Thanks
    Mactronix
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    June 9, 2010 11:34:39 AM

    theyohan said:
    Phenom II X2 550 Failed (doesn't post)
    Asus M4A785-M, Bios - 0702


    Same specs, but managed to unlock with original BIOS (03... something), however core 3 (or 2 if you count them 0,1,2,3) was defective and it would imediatly stop working in Prime95 but the other 3 were rolling along just fine even after core 3 stopped. So I updated to the latest bios so I could disable core 3 and now running as triple core just fine, stock speed, stock voltage, stock cooler. (weird thing, the cpu is recognized as Phenom II X4 B50 but with 3 cores and CPU-Z sais it's a AMD Athlon II X3 450, which rummor has it will be launched by AMD later this year ;)  )
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    June 29, 2010 1:37:04 AM

    Videl,
    I see you are still at it. I've been really busy reading and studying posts.
    Since my last post, have added the n520 cooler and 2 more 1g sticks of ram.
    Haven't set up to post my results yet, but I've gone over 3.8 ghz on b50 stable.
    I'll be playing with that system more intensely, because I've recently built a back-up
    that is fairly similar:
    GA-890GPA-UD3H rev.2.0
    Phenom II x2 555 BE (unlocked all 4 and oc'ed past 4.0ghz on 2 cores!)
    crucial ballistix tracer ddr3-1333 2x2g
    600w coolermaster silent pro m series
    cooler master scout case
    wd cav black 500g
    The C3 stepping on the 555 seems to allow it more headroom, but other than that it is very similar to the 550. Will eventually be swapping them back and forth to see how the mobos differ, mainly ddr2 vs. ddr3 I would guess.
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    August 4, 2010 1:56:04 AM

    Hello everyone!
    So after months of research I finally started building my new AM3 based tower. The specs are as follows:

    MSI 750a G55 Motherboard (1.6 BIOS I believe)
    Onboard graphics for now.(Saving up for GTX 460...I work for a living okay?)
    2gb patriot DDR3 1333mhz single stick (three more to come soon for 8gb)
    AMD Phenom II x3 720BE (the topic at hand of course)
    X-power pro 600W continuous PSU
    250gb 7200rpm HD
    Windows 7 64-bit
    Samsung DVD drive manufactured in 2000. That's right, a parallel ATA DVD drive in my brand spanking new half-finished gaming rig. It reads discs, I like it. What else would I use that single PATA port for? More SATA available!
    All of this is carefully and neatly housed in a Cooler Master Elite 310 case with blue accents. Not an unused wire in sight. I'm quite fond of this case... already running an extra 120mm intake fan (nice blue LED) on the side window and I don't even have a dedicated GPU yet. I'll be ready at least...

    Anyways, on to my core unlocking adventure.
    I followed the simple steps of setting Nvidia Core Calibration to AUTO.
    Next boot, I go straight back into the BIOS and all 4 cores are listed.
    "Very nice," I thought, "let's see if the OS will boot now".
    I wasn't expecting it to but it DID. Windows 7 showed the cpu as a quad core as well. However, I was disappointed a short time later when after gaming for about 2 minutes the machine crashed to a grey screen. Oh well, reset cmos jumpers and I was back to a STABLE tri-core. At first I assumed that the core was bad and I should just enjoy my nice stable three cores for what they're worth. Then I started doing some more researched and noticed people were saying that the voltage needed to be bumped up from 1.325 (stock) to 1.35 or 1.40. Since the OS loaded and all four cores showed in the BIOS AND in Windows 7 is there a good chance bumping up the voltage will make my system stable? I'm going to try it out tonight but if anyone has any other thoughts on this scenario/ setup i'm all ears. Thanks!
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    August 4, 2010 3:20:07 AM

    shelbyryan85 said:
    Hello everyone!
    Since the OS loaded and all four cores showed in the BIOS AND in Windows 7 is there a good chance bumping10 up the voltage will make my system stable? I'm going to try it out tonight but if anyone has any other thoughts on this scenario/ setup i'm all ears. Thanks!


    Hard to say really -- Some chips will be stable with a bit more voltage others will not - only way to really find out is to test it (Mine was actually running stable at 3.0 Ghz. with 1.296V while waiting for an aftermarket Heatsink but was still a little hotter than I like to keep it and with a TX3 HEatsink has been running stable with the 4 cores @ 3.2 GHz. and 1.344V since January so there are chips out there that will and the fact that yours booted to windows means it at least is not real defective so there is a chance it could.

    I would run it as a tricore and make sure all of the other components (RAM modules at their current Voltage, etc.) are stable for a little while and then go back and revisit the unlock with say 1.4 - 1.425V to see if it remains stable and then start lowering the Voltage to see where the lowest voltage that it will remain stable is (that way if the initial 1.425V is not stable you know the other lower settings will most likely not be as well - so saves some time testing if it is not going to remain stable no matter what Voltage you put it at)
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    August 4, 2010 6:21:08 AM

    Have you got a O/c on it as well as the unlocked cores Shelby?
    Try unlocking with no clock, see if its stable enough then work up a little at a time, I had 3.5 stable until I got Win7, now it only lets me do 3335Mhz (15% O/c) with four cores
    Moto
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    August 4, 2010 10:54:19 PM

    Motopsychojdn said:
    Have you got a O/c on it as well as the unlocked cores Shelby?
    Try unlocking with no clock, see if its stable enough then work up a little at a time, I had 3.5 stable until I got Win7, now it only lets me do 3335Mhz (15% O/c) with four cores
    Moto


    Thanks to both of you for the suggestions/info. The first try was with unlocked cores and no overclock with the voltage left at auto and it crashed to a grey screen within minutes of starting Prime95, Windows Experience Index or any game. The second time I bumped the cpu voltage up to 1.425, unlocked cores and no overclock. Still crashed within a few minutes under any benchmarks or games (but it ran very well while it was working). I tried a few more voltages just for kicks, 1.40v & 1.35v and still no dice, same grey screen. I reset my cmos jumpers (back to tri-core again) and i'm set at 3.2ghz OC. Ran prime55 for 5 hours and the system is stable. I'm getting a 6.9 cpu experience index rating now up from 6.7 (running 2.8ghz stock). Not bad, i'm wondering if I should just leave it alone. There is one more thing I noticed, I double checked my BIOS version and it's actually 1.2. with the latest version being 1.3. Could this be hurting my chances of getting that fourth core stable? Thanks again for all the help. - S
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    August 5, 2010 2:58:17 AM

    shelbyryan85 said:
    There is one more thing I noticed, I double checked my BIOS version and it's actually 1.2. with the latest version being 1.3. Could this be hurting my chances of getting that fourth core stable? Thanks again for all the help. - S


    A Bios update probably wouldn't make a difference since the CPU is already supported and the unlocking mode is present but if your feeling adventurous enough to try it - it shouldn't hurt (as long as you backup the old BIOS just in case you need to revert) -- sounds like the 4th core has some issues so you're probably better of for stability to leave it locked then and figure 3.2Ghz. seems to be a pretty good speed for it to run at (I use 3.2 for my 24\7 settings with the 4th core since it didn't seem to much different a 3.4-3.6Ghz. except for the extra heat generated !)
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    August 5, 2010 6:15:12 AM

    ^^Bump to that, leave it as three cores and just push it to 3.5Ghz if you want to clock on air,much more than that and your looking at watercooling :p 
    Sorry your unlock hasnt worked out man
    Moto
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