How do I get local channels without cable-I can't get Kecia channel 8 and who channel 13 in Des Moines ia any sugestions

This post and any answers are your "Thread".

As for the local channels, you should probably go to http://www.antennaweb.org/ and enter your zip code. With that information, you should be able to tell if those channels are available to you and they type of antenna recommended for those particular channels.

-Wolf sends