Re-Getting into Gaming, looking for nice laptop

[crazyhattricks]

Hi all! I'm having to reeducate myself on all the information associated with laptop specs now becuase I've started gaming again. I used to play MMO's years ago, but now I'm stuck with with hp Pavilion and it lags hard, so I need a new laptop. So bare with me here I've got a couple of questions & needs...

Needs:
15.6" screen, pref matte
GTX 970M or comparable
i7-4720HQ or comparable
16 gb memory
1 TB HD
backlight keyboard.

So I've been looking at the Sager NP8651 & MSI Apache GE62

But my question is
1). Are these laptops any good?
2). Would it actually be cheaper for me to go with lower memory, graphics, etc (for example) and upgrade it later?
3). Can you really upgrade laptops now?

Any other suggestions or anything is greatly appreciated! Thanks!

 

[hatib]

how much is your range

 

[velo3100]

1) The sager is better than the msi based on the gpu as the gtx 970m beats the 965m.
2) It would be cheaper to by a lower ram config but not the gpu as it is soldered.
3) Apart from ram and hdd, I don't think anything else is upgradable.

To suggest the best laptop, I will need to know the budget and the games you play.