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Regardless of what did,or didn't happen(and no the TVRO indi=ustyr was not
built on stealing,but it shows what twisted lengths people will go to to
justify their lawless actions),back in the 80s,or now,it never justifies
taking the law into your own hands!
Your post just goes to prove the same thing I see all the time: ALL THIEVES
ARE SELFISH!
"irwell" <hook@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> This whole TVRO business was built on stealing, dealers in the
> 1980s advertising satellite systems where you could receive HBO,
> Cinemax for free, the intended signals were for head-end cable
> distributors and just because they were un-crypted they were
> still supposed to be paid for, when the numer of backyard dish
> systems rose to over the one million mark, then encryption started.
> The dealers then started supplying 'chipped' boards to defeat the
> encryption, the program suppliers then got onto the dealers and
> co-opted them into being program brokers, all of a sudden
> it was 'stealing' to use these chipped boards supplied by these
> very dealers who now turned 'legititmate' Your country 'Canada,
> was one of the biggest sources for these compromised boards.
> So when peiople like you start moralising about theft a little
> history lesson seems to be in order.
>
> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:00:01 -0500, "Valdivar" <rebelleader68@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>NO,it's rationalization and refusing to face facts!
>>
>>Something either IS stealing,or it ISN'T!There is NO middle ground!
>>
>>If the channel is encrypted,because a subscription is required,then if one
>>is receiving it otherwise,it's NOT:
>>
>>"getting it for 'free"
>>"getting it without paying for it"
>>"hacking,testing and all the other rationalizing statements that THIEVES
>>love to make....
>>
>>IT"S STEALING AKA THEFT OF SERVICE!It is LAW and a criminal,indictable
>>international offense!
>>
>>If you can't,or won't see the reality of that,then you'd better stick your
>>head back in the sand!
>>
>>Yes,stealing is also an ethical and a moral issue too!"Thou shalt not
>>steal!""love thy neighbor as thyself" and so on.Would you want your
>>neighbor
>>stealing from you?Like I said:
>>
>>Stealing hurts everybody,including the thief!Unfortunately,few thieves are
>>bright enough to see that!
>>
>>
>>"irwell" <hook@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:ivlg31p1rd85s2j34s7iogockv0u7eo3p8@4ax.com...
>>> And that's moralising!
>>>
>>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:13:57 -0500, "Valdivar"
>>> <rebelleader68@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>That's stealing!
>>>>
>>>>"kryppy" <kryppy@gmail.cc> wrote in message
>>>>news:ikcf311rvf3hhvecvvknjugj92lusolsn7@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 03:45:01 GMT, "wolf2" <wilfj@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I can get all the video but no audio. Someone said there was/is a fix
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>the audio, can anyone comment. Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It works in your 4DTV?
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to program the eprom with the latest autoroll bin.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>