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2014 Light Bulb Ban: Here Are Your Alternatives (Archive)

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December 20, 2013 7:02:10 AM

What about the 100W bulbs? I found some great ones on ebay. They cost about $12.00 and have 103 of the 5050 LED and uses about 18-20W. I hate dim rooms :p 
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December 20, 2013 10:01:04 AM

The LED lasting claim of 10+ years is BS. If that were the case, they'd be warrantied for 10+ years. They know it's too much trouble to send a bulb in for replacement because of the turn around time. It's easier just to go buy a new one.
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December 20, 2013 12:53:27 PM

I'll all for saving the earth but they need to lower the price of LED.
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December 20, 2013 1:05:23 PM

I have Cree LED bulbs all over the house (from Home Depot - 6W/550lumen 2700K, 9W/800lumen 5000K, 9.5W/800lumen 2700K). They work like a charm, the color's nice, and they're relatively cheap and efficient.
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December 20, 2013 2:12:27 PM

The price will most likely go down for LED once more people start buying them because of the new year coming and they can't buy old bulbs once they run out.
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December 20, 2013 4:03:47 PM

I support this ban, a lot of people complain about CFLs but haven't tried the new ones. You can choose the color temperature, whether it be harsh 5000K or warm white (2700K). If you are concerned about the size of them, you can buy 'mini micro CFL' bulbs that are very compact.
Concerned that they take a while to warm up? With instant on ones, they turn on at about 60% brightness and achieve over 80% brightness within a minute, 100% not long after. The old kind that is purple at first and takes minutes to warm up are low mercury kinds.
Yes please recycle these bulbs, collect them in a box or something. Take them to Lowe's Home Depot, Walmart, lots of places where they send them to recyclers.
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December 20, 2013 9:10:45 PM

Though the efficiency CLF and LED can't be ignore, in my experience incandescent bulb last longer. Though some LED lights I'd used did last longer but I didn't have anything to compare them with for its used. I don't know If this band includes all incandescent or just the house hold products? Otherwise I'd better figure out how fool my car light sensors or I'll have faulty massages all over if I had to switch it with LED. I do like these CLF and LED lights but they're too expensive compared to tungsten lights.
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December 21, 2013 3:04:04 AM

People forget a interesting factor....incandescent lamps produce LESS harmful radiations than other types of lamps like CFL....and don't use mercury.

So, in this ridiculous quest to save the planet, that , no matter will be incenerated by the Sun anyway, not the mention the moronic fear of climate change when after all Arctic ice cap INCRESSED this year 50% in thicvkness (yeah, THAT CORRECT) we are poising ourselves with more nocive radiations and mercury (it's unavoidable that some CFL are broken when/where aren't supposed to be).

Usual FUBAR.
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December 21, 2013 4:11:23 AM

PS:
This reminds me unleaded fuel and MTBE...and YES, its carcinogen.
In fact, MTBE is waaaay more dangerous to health than lead.

Again, more eco BS that put us in a worse situation than before.


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December 21, 2013 4:37:31 AM

The lifeof an LED or CFL is nowhere near the quoted figures. Our whole house hs CFL or LED lighting and even though many have been big name brands, the majority have failed in under 1 year. Maybe these big companies should actually do some field testing with the product sold in the shops by their manufacturing plants and not an engineering sample.

The colour and intensity drops of frightfully fast as well. Hate the crap they are forcing on us. I'll beleive the marketting hype when they offer a replacement guarantee on items that fail before 10 years of use!
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December 21, 2013 8:05:12 AM

Halogen types (72W for 100W etc) will be phased out anyway based on 45 lumen per W final rule (equating to CFL level) in Tier 2 of EISA 2007 law 2014-2017
Similarly Canada, which is adopting US law, and current EU and Australia etc legislation.
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December 21, 2013 8:05:53 AM

Overall, A strange law in banning a popular safe product for
electricity consumption reasons
(it's not lead paint! many alt ways to reduce consumption, eg
information /taxation/ market measures)
also given much actual consumption waste,
given that light bulbs don't burn coal or release CO2 gas (power plants might),
given many states have dominant low or emission-free electricity,
and given that incandescent use is basically small amounts of off-peak
evening-night surplus capacity electricity anyway ,
as per Dept of Energy grid data and institutional references:
http://freedomlightbulb.org
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December 21, 2013 8:15:59 AM

CFLs are fine for filling a room with light but they are absolutely terrible for reading or when your eyes need to focus. For that you need a bright, point source light, like an incandescent filament. The only decent light sold today is a halogen bulb which has a tungsten filament. The halogen is there to scavenge tungsten as it vaporizes, allowing a hotter, brighter filament and whiter light. The damage caused to people's eyes due to the poor light produced by CFLs is phenomenal. The people that push CFLs belong in jail for their abject stupidity.
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December 21, 2013 8:32:39 AM

AJSB

The sun isn't expected to incinerate the earth for a very long time. By that time, we may have technology to move everybody to safety, and even if not, it's so far away in time that there's not much point in thinking about it now.
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December 21, 2013 6:02:50 PM

A great thing about CFL is you can put a higher lumen output bulb in a fixture that its incandescent rating which is based on heat. So if a fixture is rated for 60W bulbs you can install 100W CFLs.
Premature bulb failure is most often due to oxidized contacts in the socket, overhead fixtures that previously had incandescents installed most common. Loose or oxidized contacts at the wall switch or a switch that was installed using the quick connects instead of the screws can also lead to shortened bulb life.
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December 22, 2013 9:36:28 AM

@rwinches - loose or oxidized contacts in a switch or socket often leads to fire. The inductive nature of CFLs aggravates this problem. They are a huge fire hazard. There are insurance companies giving out discounts to clients to sign, pro.using not to use cfl lamps.
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December 22, 2013 9:37:45 AM

*Promising not to use CFL lamps.
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December 22, 2013 9:38:19 AM

*Promising not to use CFL lamps.
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December 22, 2013 6:09:33 PM

More government dictators that are ignorant to the real world banning without reason.
Incandescent bulbs are not significantly dangerous. The gov should not be banning things unless it is a genuine safety hazard

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December 22, 2013 9:44:28 PM

Back when the L-Prize Philips LED bulbs were available, you had an option for a nice 940 lumen bulb at 10 watts. Of course they were expensive as heck and now they're not really available anymore... The current slightly inferior 830 lumen version is a lot cheaper though, and readily available.
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January 29, 2014 6:20:47 PM

Bans on bulbs, just like global warming, is only half my gripe. The real problem is the apparent majority who are brainwashed by "governmental science" into thinking it is necessary and real. Do your own thinking folks! Read NON-governmental sponsored science!
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June 25, 2014 11:08:18 PM

Let there be LED light. all new technology will replace the old eventrally.
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January 23, 2017 11:25:42 AM

I've been using LEDs now for the last 5 or so years. Claims of 25000 to 50000 are far short of actual runtimes I'v e been experiencing. While some of have been running for 3 to 4 years so far, several (10 to 15%) have died in under 2 to 3 years. (I have ~40 units installed)

Such a high failure rate after so few years. (25000 ~ 11 years @ 6hrs/day, 50000 ~= 20yr) leads me to believe if they continue dying at the same rate, the average on the group will be far, far lower than the stated 25000 to 50000 hours.

I'd use the warranty as a rough guide. The cheaper bulbs have very short warranties an you should expect them to not last much longer than the warranty period. It seems like CREE is one of the few manufactures offering warranties that approach the stated 25000 expected lifetime.
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February 4, 2017 11:29:29 PM

@captainnemojr The bulb LED of the bulb will last that number of hours. The chips and processors which control the led bulbs are the failure point of these led replacements. As with most electronic devices they are the most susceptible to overheating and many of the cheapest cost LED replacement bulbs are often the same bulbs that reach very high temperatures during operation for more than an hour. Eventually this causes failure of the chips or processor and thereby the bulb also fails.
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March 1, 2017 9:09:06 AM

I have replaced many bulbs in my home with LED's and am happy for the most part. Consumers need to realize that LED's are low voltage DC current and every replacement bulb has to have a driver or transformer. As far as live expectance the do last longer but most problems with then are cause by weak drivers. The drivers in smaller bulbs are difficult to produce and don't last. Our country is wired for 120 volt AC. homes could have dedicated power supplied for lighting only that would power LED lighting then the bulbs would be cheaper to produce.
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