I5 or I7 is thet worse in 14 " segment
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halpburt
September 20, 2010 2:56:28 PM
Hello,
i was wondering is differenc in speed between I5 and I7 huge in peformanc eor not , i.e for programming not for gamming ?
is that logic to use I7 on 14" instead of I5? yes will be more heat and short life , but the performance will jump extraordinary in this segment ,
thanx in advance
i was wondering is differenc in speed between I5 and I7 huge in peformanc eor not , i.e for programming not for gamming ?
is that logic to use I7 on 14" instead of I5? yes will be more heat and short life , but the performance will jump extraordinary in this segment ,
thanx in advance
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halpburt
September 21, 2010 12:51:04 PM
thnx for feedback,
I fully agree with all of you, i bleieve no much difference unless multi-thread.
however my other concern , if the visibilty to push I7 on 14" segmen, i thnk it is overloading the laptop. and contradict with the purpose of 14" or less for portability and walk around. what you think
I fully agree with all of you, i bleieve no much difference unless multi-thread.
however my other concern , if the visibilty to push I7 on 14" segmen, i thnk it is overloading the laptop. and contradict with the purpose of 14" or less for portability and walk around. what you think
Maziar said:
That's true,having a quad core CPU in a 14" laptop will result in overheating,and also shorter battery life(compared to i3/i5)Depends on the laptop. The manufacturer can compensate with better cooling solutions (more copper) and larger capacity batteries. But again, you get the downside of added weight and increased dimensions. The manu has to figure out what sectors they are trying to target.
halpburt
September 21, 2010 9:43:00 PM
i agree wuth Maziar, as the all 14" review for performance was buitl on I5 even with some hear concern on I5, as i believe correct me if i wrong.
the best rates i saw was Envy14, Think T410 and Vostro .however to best suit I7 may be from 15" or higher whihc mena almost station desktop.
the best i saw till now is the Sony Z, whihc combine all the pros.
howver i admit with "lostandwandering "that may be in future more porper solution
the best rates i saw was Envy14, Think T410 and Vostro .however to best suit I7 may be from 15" or higher whihc mena almost station desktop.
the best i saw till now is the Sony Z, whihc combine all the pros.
howver i admit with "lostandwandering "that may be in future more porper solution
Maziar said:
Yes but I haven't seen any 14" laptops(with CPUs like i7) without overheating problems.The best one is Envy 14 which suffers from overheating.
I think that HP tried to do too many things with the Envy 14. They tried to make a thin and light laptop, that had beauty and power to match. And you know deep down that they wanted this thing to compete with the Macbook Pros, you can tell by the styling. Personally, I think if they gave up on the thin and light concept and focuses on the looks and performance, they would have been able to get a better cooling solution onto the CPU.
More and more people seem to be interested in laptops that are between 13 and 15''. I have a feeling that we will soon see more 14'' laptops that truly cater to "power" users
christiangordon
September 22, 2010 4:33:06 PM
halpburt
September 22, 2010 8:04:23 PM
halpburt
September 23, 2010 12:00:02 PM
So we can summerise the marvelpous brain storm ,
for programming (i,e C++ Matlab ) CPU + RAM no inout from GPU
also, there no much difference between i3 or even I7 for this purpose (even we have feedback the core
2Duo is enough)
fr 14"segment , the presence of i7 , inspite it add more powerful , it will be loading the system form the point of heat and battery time, evenit will depend on manfacture , but thi is a general conculsion .
what you think All, kindly feel free to add coment s
it one of best brin storm
for programming (i,e C++ Matlab ) CPU + RAM no inout from GPU
also, there no much difference between i3 or even I7 for this purpose (even we have feedback the core
2Duo is enough)
fr 14"segment , the presence of i7 , inspite it add more powerful , it will be loading the system form the point of heat and battery time, evenit will depend on manfacture , but thi is a general conculsion .
what you think All, kindly feel free to add coment s
it one of best brin storm
halpburt
September 24, 2010 12:29:27 PM
i agree with you,
i survey for the proper laptop that match with our discussion and nominate those:-
Dell Vostro 3300 with i5 and dis.graphic, Dell latitude E6410
HP dm4 and HP Elite 8440
Thinkbad T410 i5 + Dis. graphic
Apple Mac Pro 15"
and Sony Z- series and or S series
what you think regarding our discussion for programming applications
i survey for the proper laptop that match with our discussion and nominate those:-
Dell Vostro 3300 with i5 and dis.graphic, Dell latitude E6410
HP dm4 and HP Elite 8440
Thinkbad T410 i5 + Dis. graphic
Apple Mac Pro 15"
and Sony Z- series and or S series
what you think regarding our discussion for programming applications
halpburt
September 27, 2010 6:51:42 PM
sure Maziar,
i really think dm4 and Elite 8840 p is the more decent one specially Elite as it has strong construction
and will be suitable for the programming purpose
what you think
i really think to purchase it with dis, graohic card N Gforce 310M
then seocnd choice Dm4 with dis graphic
then Vostro 3300 +i5+dis card
the lenovo is really higher price as the Mac one
i really think dm4 and Elite 8840 p is the more decent one specially Elite as it has strong construction
and will be suitable for the programming purpose
what you think
i really think to purchase it with dis, graohic card N Gforce 310M
then seocnd choice Dm4 with dis graphic
then Vostro 3300 +i5+dis card
the lenovo is really higher price as the Mac one
It depends on you.
Like i said in my last post,HP Elite has the best build quality between them,where as MBP 15 will give you the most battery life.
However if you are going to only work with Windows and leave OS X aside,then go with the HP elite,its not worth it to purchase a Mac and only work in windows with it(because the battery life in windows is significantly lower than OS X)
Like i said in my last post,HP Elite has the best build quality between them,where as MBP 15 will give you the most battery life.
However if you are going to only work with Windows and leave OS X aside,then go with the HP elite,its not worth it to purchase a Mac and only work in windows with it(because the battery life in windows is significantly lower than OS X)
Maziar said:
It depends on you.Like i said in my last post,HP Elite has the best build quality between them,where as MBP 15 will give you the most battery life.
However if you are going to only work with Windows and leave OS X aside,then go with the HP elite,its not worth it to purchase a Mac and only work in windows with it(because the battery life in windows is significantly lower than OS X)
I'd actually just like to point out that the Vostro 3300 has good build quality. They replaced a lot of the plastics with aluminum. A step in the right direction.
halpburt
September 29, 2010 8:25:37 AM
halpburt
September 29, 2010 1:02:27 PM
well i have here the 2 configuration that should i buy and kindly need your advice
1- for Hp Elite
Configurable - HP EliteBook 8440p Notebook PC
NU546AV
Alternate OS
HP EliteBook 8440p Notebook PC with NVIDIA NVS 3100 graphics with 512 MB dedicated memory
FreeDOS
Intel® Core™ i5-560M Processor (2.66 GHz, 3 MB L3 Cache, 1066 MHz FSB) 1 Up-to 3.20 GHz with Intel Turbo Boost Technology
Intel Core i5 Label
no vPro Technology support
Mobile Intel QM57 Chipset
14.0-inch diagonal LED-backlit HD+ anti-glare (1600 x 900 resolution)
NVIDIA NVS 3100, with 512 MB dedicated video memory
4GB 1333MHz DDR3 (2 DIMM)
320GB 7200rpm SATA Hard Drive
DVD+/-RW SuperMulti DL LightScribe Drive
Full-sized keyboard and enhanced dual pointing devices (touchpad and pointstick) with scroll zone
HP Integrated Module with Bluetooth® 2.1 Wireless Technology
Intel Centrino® Advanced-N 6200 (2x2)
No Modem
No Fingerprint Sensor
90W AC Adapter
HP 6-cell 55WHr Li-Ion Primary Battery
Limited 1-year warranty Not available with BATT 6C 51Whr Long Life (WF675AV)
2-for HP dm4
Operating system Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit edit
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-580M Dual Core Processor (2.66GHz, 3MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 3.33GHz edit
Graphics card 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 5470 switchable graphics [HDMI, VGA] edit
Memory 4GB DDR3 System Memory (1 Dimm) edit
Office software Microsoft(R) Office Starter 2010 edit
Security software No additional security software edit
Primary battery 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (standard) - Up to 6.5 hours of battery life +++ edit
Display 14.0" diagonal High-Definition HP BrightView LED Display (1366 x 768) edit
Hard drive 320GB 7200RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection edit
Primary optical drive SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support edit
Personalization HP TrueVision Webcam and Fingerprint Reader edit
Networking Intel Wireless-N Card with Bluetooth edit
Keyboard Standard Keyboard
1- for Hp Elite
Configurable - HP EliteBook 8440p Notebook PC
NU546AV
Alternate OS
HP EliteBook 8440p Notebook PC with NVIDIA NVS 3100 graphics with 512 MB dedicated memory
FreeDOS
Intel® Core™ i5-560M Processor (2.66 GHz, 3 MB L3 Cache, 1066 MHz FSB) 1 Up-to 3.20 GHz with Intel Turbo Boost Technology
Intel Core i5 Label
no vPro Technology support
Mobile Intel QM57 Chipset
14.0-inch diagonal LED-backlit HD+ anti-glare (1600 x 900 resolution)
NVIDIA NVS 3100, with 512 MB dedicated video memory
4GB 1333MHz DDR3 (2 DIMM)
320GB 7200rpm SATA Hard Drive
DVD+/-RW SuperMulti DL LightScribe Drive
Full-sized keyboard and enhanced dual pointing devices (touchpad and pointstick) with scroll zone
HP Integrated Module with Bluetooth® 2.1 Wireless Technology
Intel Centrino® Advanced-N 6200 (2x2)
No Modem
No Fingerprint Sensor
90W AC Adapter
HP 6-cell 55WHr Li-Ion Primary Battery
Limited 1-year warranty Not available with BATT 6C 51Whr Long Life (WF675AV)
2-for HP dm4
Operating system Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit edit
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-580M Dual Core Processor (2.66GHz, 3MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 3.33GHz edit
Graphics card 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 5470 switchable graphics [HDMI, VGA] edit
Memory 4GB DDR3 System Memory (1 Dimm) edit
Office software Microsoft(R) Office Starter 2010 edit
Security software No additional security software edit
Primary battery 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (standard) - Up to 6.5 hours of battery life +++ edit
Display 14.0" diagonal High-Definition HP BrightView LED Display (1366 x 768) edit
Hard drive 320GB 7200RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection edit
Primary optical drive SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support edit
Personalization HP TrueVision Webcam and Fingerprint Reader edit
Networking Intel Wireless-N Card with Bluetooth edit
Keyboard Standard Keyboard
halpburt
September 29, 2010 1:20:24 PM
halpburt
October 1, 2010 11:06:44 AM
thnx Maziar,
i will go for elite ,
however need opinion regarding mentioned below specs for Vostro 3400. it is aluminum not plastic with mentioned below secs. what you think, will fit for prgramminf need , V.C++ & Matlab
and relatively to Elite
Processor:
Intel Core i5-560M Processor (2.66GHz,Turbo
Boost 3.33Ghz, Dual Core/4 Threads, 3MB L3
cache)
I5560M 1 [317-5636] 2
Memory:
4GB Shared Dual Channel DDR3 at 1066MHZ, 2
DIMM
4GB2D 1 [317-3852] 3
Hard Drive:
500GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive
Fingerprint Reader with DigitalPersona software
Display:
14.0 inch High Definition LED Display (1366 x
768) with Anti-Glare
WLED 1 [320-8919]
Optical Drives:
8X DVD+/-RW with double-layer DVD+/-R write
capability, Roxio and Cyberlink PowerDVD™ DX 8.3
Bluetooth Wireless:
Dell Wireless 365 Bluetooth Internal (2.1 +
Enhanced Data Rate)
IN365V 1 [430-3747] 13
i will go for elite ,
however need opinion regarding mentioned below specs for Vostro 3400. it is aluminum not plastic with mentioned below secs. what you think, will fit for prgramminf need , V.C++ & Matlab
and relatively to Elite
Processor:
Intel Core i5-560M Processor (2.66GHz,Turbo
Boost 3.33Ghz, Dual Core/4 Threads, 3MB L3
cache)
I5560M 1 [317-5636] 2
Memory:
4GB Shared Dual Channel DDR3 at 1066MHZ, 2
DIMM
4GB2D 1 [317-3852] 3
Hard Drive:
500GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive
Fingerprint Reader with DigitalPersona software
Display:
14.0 inch High Definition LED Display (1366 x
768) with Anti-Glare
WLED 1 [320-8919]
Optical Drives:
8X DVD+/-RW with double-layer DVD+/-R write
capability, Roxio and Cyberlink PowerDVD™ DX 8.3
Bluetooth Wireless:
Dell Wireless 365 Bluetooth Internal (2.1 +
Enhanced Data Rate)
IN365V 1 [430-3747] 13
halpburt
October 1, 2010 11:53:16 AM
halpburt
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