- Jan 26, 2010
- 7
- 0
- 18,510
Any SATA 3.0 GB/s Notebooks for sale today?
- Thread starter smtsolder5
- Start date
frozenlead
Distinguished
- Feb 6, 2006
- 3,284
- 1
- 21,110
I don't think there are, but what's the point? Most notebook drives are 5400RPM anyway...considering a standard desktop hard disks can't fill a SATA II bus, I can hardly think SATA III will be necessary for a while.
- Jan 26, 2010
- 7
- 0
- 18,510
I purchased an SSD that is wasted on a SATA 1.5GB/s bus.
Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2M080G2XXX Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Sequential Access - Read up to 250MB/s
Sequential Access - Write up to 70MB/s
That's why I'm looking for a mobile chipset with SATA 3.0GB/s.
Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2M080G2XXX Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Sequential Access - Read up to 250MB/s
Sequential Access - Write up to 70MB/s
That's why I'm looking for a mobile chipset with SATA 3.0GB/s.
frozenlead
Distinguished
- Feb 6, 2006
- 3,284
- 1
- 21,110
...which is why I said most notebook drives. The cutting edge really doesn't drive the notebook market like it does in the desktop world; the midrange and entry-level gets most of the attention, here. You won't see SATA III for a while.
- Jan 26, 2010
- 7
- 0
- 18,510
I never mentioned SATA III.
SATA I = SATA 1.5GB/s
SATA II = SATA 3.0GB/s
SATA III = SATA 6.0GB/s
I am looking for SATA II AKA SATA 3.0GB/s.
SATA III is 6.0GB/s and won't be in a mobile chipset anytime soon.
But SSDs are evolving rapidly so who knows.
SATA I = SATA 1.5GB/s
SATA II = SATA 3.0GB/s
SATA III = SATA 6.0GB/s
I am looking for SATA II AKA SATA 3.0GB/s.
SATA III is 6.0GB/s and won't be in a mobile chipset anytime soon.
But SSDs are evolving rapidly so who knows.
frozenlead
Distinguished
- Feb 6, 2006
- 3,284
- 1
- 21,110
Whoa, woopsies. Sorry about that. Guess I should get more than 3 hours of sleep a night.
Anyway, I can't find any after doing some searching. In some manner, what I said before still holds - even SATA II is too wide for notebook hard disks, which are in most machines. Some of the Sager notebook config pages state you can add SATA II SSDs, but it says nothing about if the board supports the same (though, coming from Clevo, it probably does, but I don't think there's a way to be sure).
Anyway, I can't find any after doing some searching. In some manner, what I said before still holds - even SATA II is too wide for notebook hard disks, which are in most machines. Some of the Sager notebook config pages state you can add SATA II SSDs, but it says nothing about if the board supports the same (though, coming from Clevo, it probably does, but I don't think there's a way to be sure).
- Jan 26, 2010
- 7
- 0
- 18,510
I finally found a mobile chipset that will unleash the speed and bandwidth of an Intel® X25-M Mainstream SATA Solid-State Drive. The mobile Intel® PM55 Express Chipset is part of the mobile Intel® 5 Series Chipset family and is SATA II (3.0GB/s) capable. Now I know what to look for in my next notebook purchase.
( http
/www.intel.com/products/notebook/chipsets/pm55/pm55-overview.htm )
( http
/www.intel.com/products/notebook/chipsets/pm55/pm55-overview.htm )
- Jan 26, 2010
- 7
- 0
- 18,510
Very cool! Thanks for the link. I checked the Mobile Intel GS45 Express Chipset data sheet ( http/www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/prodbrief/319505.pdf ) and it does support SATA II maximum transfer rates. Laptop manufacturers don't make the maximum SATA transfer rate easy to determine. I believe if I can't clearly see the spec then it is most likely SATA I. If the spec clearly shows maximum SATA II transfer rate then they are proud of this feature and know they can charge a premium for it. People like me will pay extra for it. Too often today they will say that a SATA I or SATA II hard drive will work in the notebook but they don't clearly state that the mobile chipset supports maximum transfer rates of SATA I or more importantly SATA II especially for the newer SSDs. When ever I post a question here about SATA II people always remind me that mechanical hard drives can't take advantage of SATA II maximum transfer rates any way. What most people don't think about is that SATA II and SATA III SSDs can and do. Also the SATA terms are often mixed up when SATA II (SATA 3.0 Gb/s) speed is often confused with the term SATA 3 (SATA 6.0 Gb/s). We can't seem to agree on the terms we use. << SATA I, SATA II, SATA 6, what do you think?>> The problem I ran into was I installed an Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2M160G2XXX 2.5" 160GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) in my Toshiba Satellite P105-S9722 - Core 2 Duo 2 GHz - 17 "- 4GB DDRII - Notebook computer to find out it only supports SATA I transfer rates. This $600.00 upgrade did not give me the performance boost I needed to see to justify this expense. Today I will do a fresh install of Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit on the SATA II X25-M SSD. Yes notebook is SATA I and SSD is SATA II. Time for a new notebook! I installed another one of these SSDs on one of my desktops that supports SATA II transfer rates. I loaded Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit and found the performance boost measurable.
/www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/prodbrief/319505.pdf ) and it does support SATA II maximum transfer rates. Laptop manufacturers don't make the maximum SATA transfer rate easy to determine. I believe if I can't clearly see the spec then it is most likely SATA I. If the spec clearly shows maximum SATA II transfer rate then they are proud of this feature and know they can charge a premium for it. People like me will pay extra for it. Too often today they will say that a SATA I or SATA II hard drive will work in the notebook but they don't clearly state that the mobile chipset supports maximum transfer rates of SATA I or more importantly SATA II especially for the newer SSDs. When ever I post a question here about SATA II people always remind me that mechanical hard drives can't take advantage of SATA II maximum transfer rates any way. What most people don't think about is that SATA II and SATA III SSDs can and do. Also the SATA terms are often mixed up when SATA II (SATA 3.0 Gb/s) speed is often confused with the term SATA 3 (SATA 6.0 Gb/s). We can't seem to agree on the terms we use. << SATA I, SATA II, SATA 6, what do you think?>> The problem I ran into was I installed an Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2M160G2XXX 2.5" 160GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) in my Toshiba Satellite P105-S9722 - Core 2 Duo 2 GHz - 17 "- 4GB DDRII - Notebook computer to find out it only supports SATA I transfer rates. This $600.00 upgrade did not give me the performance boost I needed to see to justify this expense. Today I will do a fresh install of Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit on the SATA II X25-M SSD. Yes notebook is SATA I and SSD is SATA II. Time for a new notebook! I installed another one of these SSDs on one of my desktops that supports SATA II transfer rates. I loaded Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit and found the performance boost measurable.
- Jan 26, 2010
- 7
- 0
- 18,510
Just found this Toms Hardware article from 01/04/10 that lists a great deal about new mobile chipsets.
My original post was intended to find a new notebook that has second revision SATA chipset.
http/www.tomshardware.com/reviews/mobile-core-i5-arrandale,2522-4.html
My original post was intended to find a new notebook that has second revision SATA chipset.
http
/www.tomshardware.com/reviews/mobile-core-i5-arrandale,2522-4.htmlExcellent question smtsolder5!
I'm in a very similar situation. I got an SSD to upgrade my previous laptop, only to discover it was only SATA I (1.5gb/s) and had some big issues working together. That laptop has since died and I'm looking for a replacement but don't want the same issue again.
I prefer to support AMD. They have the M880G chipset which from what I can gather is fully capable. But they don't have any detail on their website. And their doesn't appear to be any guarantee that any of the notebook manufacturers are actually running SATA HDD at the 3gb/s interface speed. Some have 7200rpm HDD, is that a sure sign? eSATA is 3gb/s, is that a sure sign the HDD is too?
The best I could come up with (with 14.1" screen) is HP's DV4-2049wm or DV4-2140us.
I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to use an SSD in a notebook. But it's almost pointless without SATA II to utilize the speed advantage.
Can anyone else shine some more light on this topic?
I'm in a very similar situation. I got an SSD to upgrade my previous laptop, only to discover it was only SATA I (1.5gb/s) and had some big issues working together. That laptop has since died and I'm looking for a replacement but don't want the same issue again.
I prefer to support AMD. They have the M880G chipset which from what I can gather is fully capable. But they don't have any detail on their website. And their doesn't appear to be any guarantee that any of the notebook manufacturers are actually running SATA HDD at the 3gb/s interface speed. Some have 7200rpm HDD, is that a sure sign? eSATA is 3gb/s, is that a sure sign the HDD is too?
The best I could come up with (with 14.1" screen) is HP's DV4-2049wm or DV4-2140us.
I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to use an SSD in a notebook. But it's almost pointless without SATA II to utilize the speed advantage.
Can anyone else shine some more light on this topic?
OK. I've just had confirmation back from HP support to say the DV4-2045 does use SATA 3gb/s. From that it should be reasonably safe to say that their recent models with the M880G chipset should all be as well.
I also posed the question of Tom's doing an article. Something along the lines of "Which notebooks work best with SSD's?" Investigating interface speed.
Hope something comes of it. ;-)
I also posed the question of Tom's doing an article. Something along the lines of "Which notebooks work best with SSD's?" Investigating interface speed.
Hope something comes of it. ;-)
Actually the new HM65 chipset supports what is referred to as Sata III (Sata 6gb/s). http/www.intel.com/products/notebook/chipsets/ec-hm65/ec-hm65-overview.htm
I am hoping it becomes main stream sooner rather than later....but with production costs, etc......it may not be a long time from now, since we are barely filling the 3gb/s mark now....
/www.intel.com/products/notebook/chipsets/ec-hm65/ec-hm65-overview.htmI am hoping it becomes main stream sooner rather than later....but with production costs, etc......it may not be a long time from now, since we are barely filling the 3gb/s mark now....
I have been chasing SATA III notebooks for past days and so far I only managed to find ASUS ZENBOOK UX series, where they directly state support for SATA revision 3.0.
http/www.asus.com/Notebooks/Superior_Mobility/ASUS_ZENBOOK_UX31E/#specifications
Unfortunately, this series are ultralight & portable netbooks of maximum 13" screen size, they do not offer quad core i7 nor any high-end graphic cards. I believe somebody who seek performance of this kind would certainly appreciate these options available.
My preferences for notebook would be like 15.6" screen (or close), i7-2670, memory slots of minimum capacity of 8Gb and nvidia 5xx series, plus of course SATA 3. And it looks this combination is yet not available on the market. Each brand seems to have few series of notebooks who are delivered with SSD disk but none specifically states that they do support SATA 3, only the mentioned zenbook, and even so, it is not clear whether the delivered SSD disk is capable of running at SATA 3 speeds, but that is only an issue of replacing it.
Even such high-end series like Dell Alienware do offer only SATA II SSD disks. Although prices there are beyond my reach.
http
/www.asus.com/Notebooks/Superior_Mobility/ASUS_ZENBOOK_UX31E/#specificationsUnfortunately, this series are ultralight & portable netbooks of maximum 13" screen size, they do not offer quad core i7 nor any high-end graphic cards. I believe somebody who seek performance of this kind would certainly appreciate these options available.
My preferences for notebook would be like 15.6" screen (or close), i7-2670, memory slots of minimum capacity of 8Gb and nvidia 5xx series, plus of course SATA 3. And it looks this combination is yet not available on the market. Each brand seems to have few series of notebooks who are delivered with SSD disk but none specifically states that they do support SATA 3, only the mentioned zenbook, and even so, it is not clear whether the delivered SSD disk is capable of running at SATA 3 speeds, but that is only an issue of replacing it.
Even such high-end series like Dell Alienware do offer only SATA II SSD disks. Although prices there are beyond my reach.
And here's more from Fujitsu which have sata III in options
http/www.fujitsu.com/fts/products/computing/pc/notebooks-tablets/all-round/lifebook-nh751-full-hd/index.html
http/www.fujitsu.com/fts/products/computing/pc/notebooks-tablets/superior/lifebook-s761-vpro/index.html
http
/www.fujitsu.com/fts/products/computing/pc/notebooks-tablets/all-round/lifebook-nh751-full-hd/index.htmlhttp
/www.fujitsu.com/fts/products/computing/pc/notebooks-tablets/superior/lifebook-s761-vpro/index.htmlI was also looking for a SATA III notebook. The Dell Vostro 3550 uses the HM67 chipset. According to Intel website, HM67 supports SATA III. Nothing on Dell website about the SATA speed. Is it a safe assumption that Vostra 3550 will be able to transfer at SATA III speeds. If not might as well get a SATA II ssd.
Facebook
Twitter