Going to Beijing, should I check out 797 Audio?

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Hey guys, I'll be in Beijing for a couple days and had heard that I could
get pretty good replications of some old mics through the 767 factory. Is
this fact or myth?
Anybody actually use these mics? If it's true then I'll pick up some nice
ones and see what they sound like.

 

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"offpeak808" <offpeak808@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hey guys, I'll be in Beijing for a couple days and had heard that
> I could get pretty good replications of some old mics through the
> 767 factory. Is this fact or myth? ... If it's true then I'll
> pick up some nice ones and see what they sound like.

The copies are "pretty good" only in terms of looks--not in terms of
sound, consistency or reliability. However, if I were going there, I
would almost certainly buy a few just to have as props or gag gifts.

Have a good time in Beijing and let us all know what you see!

 

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<< he copies are "pretty good" only in terms of looks--not in terms of
sound, consistency or reliability. However, if I were going there, I
would almost certainly buy a few just to have as props or gag gifts.

Have a good time in Beijing and let us all know what you see! >>



And don't forget to pick up some Mao watches for your buds.

-R

 

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If you're interested in local street music, there is a hill park right
outside the north gate of the Forbidden City, due north. (The Forbidden
City, Gu Gong, is the old imperial palace that is at the north end of Tian
An Men, the great square smack in the center of Beijing.) It's a public
park, and is full of people whanging away on musical instruments of all
types, singers, choirs, etc., especially in the morning. A great place to
go with a little recording device.

Carlos

 

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If the price is right, why not?

Seriously though, be sure you get all your shots and take along a
first aid kit with some meds. Your doc should be able to recommend
what to include.

Enjoy and don't ask what it is you ate!

Best,
Audy O


"offpeak808" <offpeak808@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<cnb24o$6mu$1@jupiter.ttn.net>...
> Hey guys, I'll be in Beijing for a couple days and had heard that I could
> get pretty good replications of some old mics through the 767 factory. Is
> this fact or myth?
> Anybody actually use these mics? If it's true then I'll pick up some nice
> ones and see what they sound like.

 

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<< It's a public
park, and is full of people whanging away on musical instruments of all
types, singers, choirs, etc., especially in the morning. A great place to
go with a little recording device. >>



Go very early. It's truly the happiest place on earth. Especially be sure you
sidle over and listen to someone sawing away on an erhu, the 2 string vertical
Chinese fiddle.

Disneyland will never seem the same.

-R

 

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in article 20041117131608.06537.00000673@mb-m15.aol.com, R Krizman at
rkrizman@aol.com wrote on 11/17/04 10:16 AM:

> Go very early. It's truly the happiest place on earth. Especially be sure
> you
> sidle over and listen to someone sawing away on an erhu, the 2 string vertical
> Chinese fiddle.
>
> Disneyland will never seem the same.
>
> -R

All RIGHT! Someone else who knows about the erhu! That's what I play!
Yes, do go early, and it is very, very cool. One thing I learned from
living in China is that the music is incredibly emotional and expressive.
You can tune in to it immediately. And DO take some recording device.

Carlos

 

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Audy <audy@audykimura.com> wrote:
>If the price is right, why not?
>
>Seriously though, be sure you get all your shots and take along a
>first aid kit with some meds. Your doc should be able to recommend
>what to include.

Meds? But I'm always getting e-mails from China offering me medication!
Several hundred a day! There has to be a serious medication surplus out
there.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

 

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Scott:

Those meds aren't for hepatitis A, B or other exotic diseases. They're
the reason there are SO many Chinese people over there!

Remember...if it lasts over 4 hours, call the doctor!

Best regards,
Audy O


kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote in message news:<cnguvn$bq5$1@panix2.panix.com>...
> Audy <audy@audykimura.com> wrote:
> >If the price is right, why not?
> >
> >Seriously though, be sure you get all your shots and take along a
> >first aid kit with some meds. Your doc should be able to recommend
> >what to include.
>
> Meds? But I'm always getting e-mails from China offering me medication!
> Several hundred a day! There has to be a serious medication surplus out
> there.
> --scott

 

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It's like 3 deg C right now. Those people might have cold fingers!
I'll pass on the meds, unless they allow me to break through boards with my
willy. Probably will spend time eating, eating, and more eating.
And maybe a morning at 797 touring their factory and trying to figure out if
the MXL69 sounds any better than the v77, or the C1, or the B-5, or if they
all the same fake watch with a different face.

> Go very early. It's truly the happiest place on earth. Especially be
sure
> > you
> > sidle over and listen to someone sawing away on an erhu, the 2 string
vertical
> > Chinese fiddle.
> >
> > Disneyland will never seem the same.
> >
> > -R

 

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You don't need any particular shots to go to China. In all of my trips there
the worst I ever suffered from was some indigestion (deservedly, I might add).
I always drink bottled water there, and even brush my teeth with it.

You might get a headache or cough from the smog, however.

-R

 

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<< All RIGHT! Someone else who knows about the erhu! That's what I play!
>>



I love the erhu. I purchased one on my first trip and have made a few half
hearted attempts to learn it, and even found an instructor here near L.A. What
a romantic and melancholy instrument. I'm quite taken with traditional Chinese
music in general, and have actually incorporated erhu and pipa into some of the
commercial music I've composed for CCTV-9.

(the one thing I can't get used to with Chinese music is how the percussion is
a clangorous overlay rather than the driving pulse)

Where did you live?

-R

 

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On 19 Nov 2004 05:33:53 GMT, in rec.audio.pro you wrote:

><< All RIGHT! Someone else who knows about the erhu! That's what I play!
>>>


>
>I love the erhu. I purchased one on my first trip and have made a few half
>hearted attempts to learn it, and even found an instructor here near L.A. What
>a romantic and melancholy instrument. I'm quite taken with traditional Chinese
>music in general, and have actually incorporated erhu and pipa into some of the
>commercial music I've composed for CCTV-9.
>
>(the one thing I can't get used to with Chinese music is how the percussion is
>a clangorous overlay rather than the driving pulse)
>
>Where did you live?
>
>-R


Rick,

My erhu got crushed in luggage coming back from Beijing. The pipa
(with better case) survived fine, and sits in my studio to this day. I
produced a pipa record with Min Xiao Fen a few years ago -- won the
BBC Record of the Year Award. She tried to give me pipa lessons. It
was hopeless.

Did you get Tony's Finn Bros record I sent over?

JL

 

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<< My erhu got crushed in luggage coming back from Beijing. The pipa
(with better case) survived fine, and sits in my studio to this day. I
produced a pipa record with Min Xiao Fen a few years ago -- won the
BBC Record of the Year Award. She tried to give me pipa lessons. It
was hopeless.

Did you get Tony's Finn Bros record I sent over? >>



That's why I carried mine on the plane. Although I had a bad moment in the
business class lounge after going through the layers of security. I got up to
go to my flight and I realized the erhu was missing. I had left it about 3
security layers earlier. When I finally worked my way back, of course it was
right where I left it. We'll have to have a chat sometime about our China
experiences. Going over there has been a profound change for me.

And yes, many thanks for the CD. I was going to email you about it. A
fascinating listen. Sonically great, but somehow misses the essence of the
Finns, I think. The drums are very static and matter of fact--perhaps there
was another layer of production yet to be added.

-R

 

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I'd ask the doc. When I went to Asia, the MD in charge of Preventive
Medicine for CINCPAC (Commander In Chief Pacific) gave me a list of
immunizations, some were the ones you should have in the US anyway.

Hep B is pretty serious stuff and there's plenty of that there. Hep A
could also ruin a trip. Depending on how far out you're going, there
may be some others you might want to get.

Your state dept. of health can recommend immunizations too.

A bunch of people from my group got sick drinking bottled water that
was bottled from the tap.

Safer to just drink beer instead of water...

Audy O


rkrizman@aol.com (R Krizman) wrote in message news:<20041119002958.08355.00000886@mb-m04.aol.com>...
> You don't need any particular shots to go to China. In all of my trips there
> the worst I ever suffered from was some indigestion (deservedly, I might add).
> I always drink bottled water there, and even brush my teeth with it.
>
> You might get a headache or cough from the smog, however.
>
> -R

 

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Audy wrote:
>
> I'd ask the doc.
>
> Hep B is pretty serious stuff and there's plenty of that there. Hep A
> could also ruin a trip. Depending on how far out you're going, there
> may be some others you might want to get.
>
> Your state dept. of health can recommend immunizations too.
>
> A bunch of people from my group got sick drinking bottled water that
> was bottled from the tap.
>
> Safer to just drink beer instead of water...

That's all very good advice. On the trip I just finished
over there, we were told the very same things, with the
added cautions to not eat or drink anything you buy "on the
street". The bottled water thing is true. Street vendors
will "repackage" bottled water - fill empty bottles
(presumably that they find discarded) with tap water and
sell it to the unsuspecting. It happened to a couple of our
people. If the bottle isn't sealed or if the seal appears to
be broken, don't buy it. Another caution phrase we were
given was "peel it, boil it, or forget it." Don't eat any
fresh foods from street vendor carts or open air markets
unless you can peel it or boil it.

With that said, though, I did find a most delicious
breakfast food at little street carts or grilles in Tianjin.
It's like a breakfast burrito made with a flaky pie-like
dough with an egg/onion mixture and rolled around some kind
of either bean or plum sauce or daikon or something. I could
never find out what it was, but for 15 cents it was
guuuuuud! And safe to eat.


TM

 

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rkrizman@aol.com (R Krizman) wrote in message news:<20041119002958.08355.00000886@mb-m04.aol.com>...
> You don't need any particular shots to go to China. In all of my trips there
> the worst I ever suffered from was some indigestion (deservedly, I might add).
> I always drink bottled water there, and even brush my teeth with it.
>
> You might get a headache or cough from the smog, however.
>
> -R

China is next door...

 

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Definitely you should get a hepatitis shot before visiting China --
but I think you are supposed to get them a couple of months in
advance.

Al

On 20 Nov 2004 03:41:25 -0800, audy@audykimura.com (Audy) wrote:

>I'd ask the doc. When I went to Asia, the MD in charge of Preventive
>Medicine for CINCPAC (Commander In Chief Pacific) gave me a list of
>immunizations, some were the ones you should have in the US anyway.
>
>Hep B is pretty serious stuff and there's plenty of that there. Hep A
>could also ruin a trip. Depending on how far out you're going, there
>may be some others you might want to get.
>
>Your state dept. of health can recommend immunizations too.
>
>A bunch of people from my group got sick drinking bottled water that
>was bottled from the tap.
>
>Safer to just drink beer instead of water...
>
>Audy O
>
>
>rkrizman@aol.com (R Krizman) wrote in message news:<20041119002958.08355.00000886@mb-m04.aol.com>...
>> You don't need any particular shots to go to China. In all of my trips there
>> the worst I ever suffered from was some indigestion (deservedly, I might add).
>> I always drink bottled water there, and even brush my teeth with it.
>>
>> You might get a headache or cough from the smog, however.
>>
>> -R

 

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<< A bunch of people from my group got sick drinking bottled water that
was bottled from the tap.

Safer to just drink beer instead of water...

Audy O >>



I tried to follow the latter advice whenever possible. And in Beijing, don't
let them tell you Tsing tao is local beer. It's not. Insist on the Yang
Ching, or Beijing beer.

What a funny thought. Pretend bottled water to go with your fake lacquer boxes
and knock-off North Face jackets.

I bought a nice old (looking) compass in a leather box on one trip. When I
got it home, I noticed that the arrow pointed south instead of north. On my
next trip, in a totally different city (Shanghai) I found the same compass
boxes for sale. All of the needles pointed south. When I showed that to the
vendor, she tried rotating the compass to change the direction, unsuccessfully
of course. She then handed it back to me and said with a shrug, "Oh well, the
world is round." I love China.

-R

 

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On 20 Nov 2004 23:14:24 GMT, rkrizman@aol.com (R Krizman) wrote:

><< A bunch of people from my group got sick drinking bottled water that
>was bottled from the tap.
>
>Safer to just drink beer instead of water...
>
>Audy O >>


>
>I tried to follow the latter advice whenever possible. And in Beijing, don't
>let them tell you Tsing tao is local beer. It's not. Insist on the Yang
>Ching, or Beijing beer.
>
>What a funny thought. Pretend bottled water to go with your fake lacquer boxes
>and knock-off North Face jackets.

Depends where you shop... sometimes they are not knockoffs -- that
stuff is all made in China and there is often some action from the
backdoor of the factory. Also they can sometimes be factory seconds
that are perfectly OK, especially for the price.

Al